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Posted by:
Azzman
Date: December 19, 2005 01:44PM
Hi all,
I don't know if this forum is moderated or not, but I think there's room for improvement.
Whenever I need some assistance I search the forum for help, and it has been helpfull in the past.
One thing I noticed, is that the "general"-section of the forum is 'cluttered' with releases, re-releases, new releases, etc.
I admire the effort and results of people creating new versions, but
Wouldn't it been better to ad a "releases"-section to the forum ?
In that case, the "general"-section would be a lot cleaner, while people interested in new builds have their own section.
Just a thought.
Re: forum categories
Posted by:
guenter
Date: December 19, 2005 02:58PM
not moderated // technically it could be moderated.
You got a point there - but its custom to place things here.
Why?
General - is for anything that fits into no category. the most read section.
also were we sometimes just chat.
the market-square if this was a village.
Re: forum categories
Posted by:
Azzman
Date: December 20, 2005 04:01PM
Hi Guenter,
Yes, I understand what you're saying, and can see why people like it like this.
I could rephrase my first post, and turn it around a bit.
Maybe leave this the way it is and adding a Help-section would be nice, but hey, I can live with the way it is now.
I must add though, for newbies like me, the different releases posted here are a bit intimidating, the official release, Hao's, Fred's, Wechselbalg, which one to choose and why ?
As a newbie I decided on the official release and to hand-tweak it step-by-step to my needs.
Re: forum categories
Posted by:
guenter
Date: December 21, 2005 07:41AM
Most are just customized versions - only the macros vary - but ... sometimes much.
Someone that can customize already has done it for You (no more no less)
- I would start with one that is closest to my own liking and adapt it further.
If it is official that comes closest to Your likeing?
It is extremly good and not very specizialized.
wechselbalg is nice too - it also has a Dutch version.
You can use the menus.cfg and macros.cfg and accel.cfg
of "w-b" or as Jan liked to call it "0.8.3"
with newer 0.9 exe. and dll. did You know?
They give less choice then newer trinity files but are in nl. language.
You could for example use them in a profile for every day
when no 0.9 features are needed.
and can use more advanced 0.9 feature in another.
With Dorians new version translation will become easier.
Hope You enjoy k-m - greetings to beautiful nl.
Re: forum categories
Posted by:
Azzman
Date: December 24, 2005 03:30PM
Actually, like I said, too many choices, not clear what to do as a newbie, like the dutch expression 'can't see the forest through the trees'.
So I switched back to firefox, and am happy with it.
Frohe Weinachten.
Re: forum categories
Posted by:
guenter
Date: December 24, 2005 03:47PM
German expression too - be happy with Your ff - and happy xms to You
Re: forum categories
Posted by:
bst82551
Date: December 24, 2005 10:48PM
Indeed, Azzman.
If you have any complications with Firefox or K-Meleon or anything at all, drop us a line! I hope you have fun with Firefox and its many great features!
Brian
Re: forum categories
Posted by:
ndebord
Date: December 25, 2005 05:07AM
Azzman,
We were all newbies once with K-Meleon (or any other browser for that matter).
As for the confusion, you have landed here wtih K-Meleon right smack in the middle of testing for TWO new releases: A version based on GRE 1.7.12 (Mozilla Suite 1.7.12) code which will be labeled something like K-Meleon 0.9.5, or something similar. The other version will be based on GRE 1.8 (SeaMonkey) code and wiill be lableled as K-Meleon 1.0.
All the other versions you see I would prefer to call variations on the 0.9 K-Meleon and show up the versatility of the browser through its innovative use of Macros to do all kinds of exciting things. The best part about the use of macros to do addons (instead of XPI extensions that use XML emulation language which adds lots of overhead) is that it is much faster because it uses Windows "widgets" which are native to the OS and hence faster than emulation. FireFox suffers from its basic premise, which is to run on many different platforms and as such is slower on all than native code specific to each operating system.
Just my two cents worth.
N
Re: forum categories
Posted by:
bst82551
Date: December 25, 2005 06:44AM
@ndebord
Do you think that it would be possible for an extremely fast XML translator which transformed XML to widgets to come about? How far fetched is such an idea as that?
Brian
Re: forum categories
Posted by:
:-s
Date: December 26, 2005 05:20AM
I didn't look at the site you mentioned so I don't know if it's true what you said. I'm not in the mood of seeing such a @!#$ now (its christmas you know?).
But in any case, if someone out there advertises K-Meleon and is also hosting any weird stuff on his page you can't blame anyone here for that. I'm sure the sick minds that like to watch execution videos only will raise the traffic on the mentioned site and not here. They for sure don't visit the site cause of k-meleon but cause of the stuff they found there and they are able to watch movie-files with any existing browser.......so you can't actually blame K-Meleon for what you've noticed. Furthermore, maybe he really has these stuff on the page to raise traffic and gain money from advertising, but again he won't do that cause of his K-Meleon "ads", cause nobody pays him for placing them there.
I agree that this combination is a strange one tho, but you might rephrase your statement, cause imo not the browser is lame but persons which uses such strategies to gain traffic on their site, at least if there is a commercial interest behind it.
Re: forum categories
Posted by:
ndebord
Date: December 26, 2005 07:41AM
Nick,
IF you were to advertise porn using MicroSoft Word as your instrument, would you call Word a lame word processor. Your logic is a tad flawed here.
N
Re: forum categories
Posted by:
ndebord
Date: December 26, 2005 07:44AM
Brian,
B>>> Do you think that it would be possible for an extremely fast XML translator which transformed XML to widgets to come about? How far fetched is such an idea as that?
I have no idea, but perhaps one of the coders here could chime in on this topic. I would venture to guess that in some cases, people have seen what is possible with XML and managed to do similar stuff with macros, which of course have the advantage in Windows of running much faster.
N
Re: forum categories
Posted by:
encoderX
Date: December 26, 2005 12:51PM
Thank you for your post regarding my site.
K-Meleon is advertised throughout my site - regardless of the page you goto.
The execution area of my site is not linked to from my site so one has to goto it directly.
For you to be their you must have gone their specifically looking for the execution video downloads!
K-Meleon don't pay for advertising - any banners you see on the net of K-meleon are put their by users ...etc at their own expense.
I have many, many free banners on my site - it's obvious to anyone that what's advertised isn't affiliated to my site.
Thank you for giving me the chance to clarify the position correctly.
--
encoderX
Re: forum categories
Posted by:
guenter
Date: December 26, 2005 02:48PM
@Author: Nick Burg (---.ipt.aol.com) - IMHO encoder is right to show these videos.
IMHO one of the best forms of protest against cruelty is to show it.
You have to "know" that people that do such things must be
aprehended and duly punished. What these ppl do is murder.
Maybe You should see his offer under that aspect - the other thing:
- we rarely slander each other here.
Even those that are here for long remained civil.
I do not like Your tone. welp.
Re: forum categories
Posted by:
Drahken
Date: December 26, 2005 05:41PM
Azzman- Bottomline is to use whatever browser you like best. I like all the things FF can do, but am just too addicted to the speed (and some of the features) of KM.
However, I think you're giving up on KM too fast. The best thing to do when you're new to KM and don't know what to go for, is to go for the official version. Use it for a while and get used to it, then try a custom version if you want.
The ones built on GRE 1.8x are better than the 1.7x ones in general, but tend to be less stable (although most of them are 95% stable). The Weshcalbarg one is pretty good and very fast, but it's built on an older version of KM and has some flaws because of that (like the way the layers work in it). I like the CCF versions myself.
Lastly, if you haven't noticed it yet, there's a thread listing all the unofficial releases and giving some info on each. The newest versions are toward the end of the thread.
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?f=1&i=25998&t=25998
Re: forum categories
Posted by:
ndebord
Date: December 27, 2005 06:09AM
Guenter,
This Nick fellow has posted his attack in more than one section and as a result has made activated my "troll" antenna.
<sigh>
N
Re: forum categories
Posted by:
guenter
Date: December 27, 2005 06:19AM
IMHO he intentionally misunderstood encoder
I can not see how ppl can missunderstand such things - besides this thing was not
the right hang up for a trolling which should be basically fun and a little leg pulling.
- that´s why i was mad right away.
Re: forum categories
Posted by:
ndebord
Date: December 29, 2005 06:43AM
Guenter,
An evil troll then, I would say.
N