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Many thanks for the update to both of you!!
Flash Player versions 13.0.0.281 & 17.0.0.169 available in Adobe Security Bulletin APSB15-06:
https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsb15-06.html
thanks john. waiting for gils to mod flash v17.0.0.169 or higher for KM
Link's dead ;~ ;
Which one?
It looks like Adobe Flash Player 17.0.0.149 Beta from gils.
Forget the previous Flash 17 betas from gils. They're old.
New Adobe Flash Player 13 ESR & 17 security updates in May 2015:
https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsb15-09.html
Versions 13.0.0.289 ESR & 17.0.0.188
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/12/2015 08:07PM by 4td8s.
New Flash Player security updates for June 2015:
https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsb15-11.html
Versions 13.0.0.292 & 18.0.0.160 are now available.
On August 11, 2015, Adobe will update the Flash Player ESR from version 13 to 18 as noted in this Adobe blog post.
Thanks for the heads up about the new Flash Player ESR version 18 arriving in August ... more changes.
From what I can tell ... this new version should still work with Windows XP.
...
This time, the latest version to test compatibility as it will be the ESR from August.
NPSWF32_18_0_0_160.7z
At least, till the above version, 18.x branch works with Windows 2000 with wrappers/kernel extenders too.
Thanks for the link to the new ESR blog entry and to notify us of the new version, 4td8s. I just forget in what day I live
and I don't follow Adobe's blog, nor have automatic updates (basically doesn't work on 2K either)...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/10/2015 08:05PM by JohnHell.
Thanks 4td8s and JohnHell for the new flash news and download ... I am not 100% sure the new version is working in XP.
Everything seems OK so far ... it is reconized at two flash test sites I use.
This one will test and ID which version of flash and shockwave are installed ... JavaScript must be on or working.
http://www.explorelearning.com/index.cfm?method=cCorp.dspTest
...
Looks might be related to flashblock.
The first time the site said I hadn't flash installed, then after allowed in adobe test site (the one you should care about), it did.
Another test site
http://playerversion.com/
Forget what some tests say expecting whatever special environment.
@callahan & JohnHell: Yup Flash 18 works on XP SP3 and with Win2k + unofficial kernel extenders/wrappers but you still must have the required hardware to use Flash 18 (aka. 2.33Ghz single core or uni-core Intel x86 CPU/processor or faster, Intel Atom 1.6Ghz dual-core CPU for netbooks, 512Mb of physical RAM, 1Gb of RAM for netbooks, and 128Mb of video RAM)
Flash Player 18 may not work well on old hardware with relatively weak CPUs and/or old graphics cards with less than 128Mb of graphics memory.
I've upgraded my custom built PC with an old Intel board that used to have an Intel Pentium 4 Hyperthread (641) 3.2Ghz processor to an Intel Pentium D (945) 3.4Ghz CPU. It also had 2Gb of physical RAM and had onboard ATI Xpress 200 graphics chipset with 128Mb of video RAM with Windows 7 x64. I might try running KM 75 RC3 & Flash Player 18 on a separate hard drive using Windows XP x64 edition. The OSes I'm using on my custom built PC are now 64-bit instead of 32-bit because the CPUs have 64-bit instruction set on them.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 06/13/2015 05:06PM by 4td8s.
You can use 32 bit XP 4 CPU like: "CPU Type mobile DualCore AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-56, 1800 MHz (9 x 200)" Copy & paste from Everest Ultimate - which detects hardware & more.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/13/2015 11:50PM by guenter.
The only computers I have at present are three Pentium M ThinkPads from around 2004/2005 time frame ... with XP SP3 installed ... all seems OK for now.
Thanks 4td8s, guenter, JohnHell and others ... good to still be able to use the newer version of flash coming in August. This information that you have posted ... will be good for others with questions also.
...
My above machine is from around 2007. It originally came with Vista.
But AFAIK it pretty much has the same specs as Your Pentium M Thinkpad.
Mine is a FUJITSU SIEMENS AMILO Pa 2510. I also have 2 more such machines.
With Vista it was so unbearably slow (even with 2 GB RAM) that I first installed dual boot XP/Vista. And when I had found all XP drivers I gave Vista the coup de grace which put the PC and me out of misery.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/14/2015 08:02PM by guenter.
Vista could be different ;-)
Yes You can slim it before install with vlite. But I did not know then.
Plus XP can be slimmed with nlite. No way to beat that with Vista/vlite. IMHO.
I'm not going to compare XP and Vista in terms of system load. XP is way lighter.
But you can tweak Vista (if there is no other option) even after install.
I had at least one case of hardcore optimization of Vista on the laptop with 1Gb of RAM - and I've got it working smooth.
(Disclaimer: I don't like Vista anyway)
A behavior I just found with YouTube and K-meleon, starting today, is that, with independence of the version of flash (13.x or 18.x), if you have the user agent set to default, without Firefox compatible option, it plays the HTML5 version.
I post this in this thread just in case happens to someone and thinks the versions aren't recognized or compatible with K-meleon.
Just had a prob with youtube too, wanted to play a video and - nothing. Just a black box. Looks like youtube sends no flash anymore to KM1.6, only html5 videos. Which don't play either, no idea if due to KM1.6 or just my profile. Obviously the almighty google/youtube boss decided I shouldn't be allowed to view videos anymore
Finally figured out that IE7 user agent helped, and FF2.1
Then reading this post: Oh - all it takes is a FF agent??
Bingo - you're right! Had forgotten to test with FF3.5, incredible
Hmm, forgot it because in the past an older FF agent used to give "old browser" warnings on youtube, unlike the native KM1.6 agent - or so I thought. Perhaps I remembered that wrong, or perhaps youtube actually removed that warning now?? At any rate it doesn't show, with neither KM nor old FF name.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/18/2015 09:58PM by siria.
General discussion about K-Meleon
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.269 ESR and 16.0.0.305
Posted by:
gils
Date: February 19, 2015 09:31AM
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.269 ESR and 16.0.0.305
Posted by:
gils
Date: February 26, 2015 08:36AM
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.269 ESR and 16.0.0.305
Posted by:
gils
Date: March 12, 2015 09:12AM
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.277 ESR
Posted by:
gils
Date: March 12, 2015 09:34PM
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.277 ESR
Posted by:
Yogi
Date: March 12, 2015 11:36PM
Many thanks for the update to both of you!!
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.277 ESR
Posted by:
gils
Date: March 18, 2015 01:32PM
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.277 ESR
Posted by:
gils
Date: March 25, 2015 08:58AM
Flash Player 13.0.0.281 ESR & 17.0.0.169 now available
Posted by:
4td8s
Date: April 16, 2015 06:57AM
Flash Player versions 13.0.0.281 & 17.0.0.169 available in Adobe Security Bulletin APSB15-06:
https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsb15-06.html
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.281 ESR & 17.0.0.169 now available
Posted by:
JohnHell
Date: April 16, 2015 06:40PM
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.281 ESR & 17.0.0.169 now available
Posted by:
4td8s
Date: April 22, 2015 06:39PM
thanks john. waiting for gils to mod flash v17.0.0.169 or higher for KM
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.277 ESR
Posted by:
Diamond Tiara
Date: April 24, 2015 06:17PM
Link's dead ;~ ;
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.277 ESR
Posted by:
JohnHell
Date: April 24, 2015 06:44PM
Quote
Diamond Tiara
Link's dead ;~ ;
Which one?
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.277 ESR
Posted by:
panzer
Date: May 04, 2015 07:25AM
It looks like Adobe Flash Player 17.0.0.149 Beta from gils.
Flash Player 13.0.0.289 ESR & 17.0.0.188
Posted by:
4td8s
Date: May 12, 2015 08:06PM
Forget the previous Flash 17 betas from gils. They're old.
New Adobe Flash Player 13 ESR & 17 security updates in May 2015:
https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsb15-09.html
Versions 13.0.0.289 ESR & 17.0.0.188
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/12/2015 08:07PM by 4td8s.
Flash Player 13.0.0.292 ESR & 18.0.0.160
Posted by:
4td8s
Date: June 10, 2015 02:17AM
New Flash Player security updates for June 2015:
https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsb15-11.html
Versions 13.0.0.292 & 18.0.0.160 are now available.
On August 11, 2015, Adobe will update the Flash Player ESR from version 13 to 18 as noted in this Adobe blog post.
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.292 ESR & 18.0.0.160
Posted by:
callahan
Date: June 10, 2015 05:11PM
Thanks for the heads up about the new Flash Player ESR version 18 arriving in August ... more changes.
From what I can tell ... this new version should still work with Windows XP.
...
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.292 ESR & 18.0.0.160
Posted by:
JohnHell
Date: June 10, 2015 08:04PM
This time, the latest version to test compatibility as it will be the ESR from August.
NPSWF32_18_0_0_160.7z
At least, till the above version, 18.x branch works with Windows 2000 with wrappers/kernel extenders too.
Thanks for the link to the new ESR blog entry and to notify us of the new version, 4td8s. I just forget in what day I live
and I don't follow Adobe's blog, nor have automatic updates (basically doesn't work on 2K either)...Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/10/2015 08:05PM by JohnHell.
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.292 ESR & 18.0.0.160
Posted by:
callahan
Date: June 11, 2015 07:54AM
Thanks 4td8s and JohnHell for the new flash news and download ... I am not 100% sure the new version is working in XP.
Everything seems OK so far ... it is reconized at two flash test sites I use.
This one will test and ID which version of flash and shockwave are installed ... JavaScript must be on or working.
http://www.explorelearning.com/index.cfm?method=cCorp.dspTest
...
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.292 ESR & 18.0.0.160
Posted by:
JohnHell
Date: June 11, 2015 09:25PM
Looks might be related to flashblock.
The first time the site said I hadn't flash installed, then after allowed in adobe test site (the one you should care about), it did.
Another test site
http://playerversion.com/
Forget what some tests say expecting whatever special environment.
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.292 ESR & 18.0.0.160
Posted by:
4td8s
Date: June 13, 2015 04:51PM
@callahan & JohnHell: Yup Flash 18 works on XP SP3 and with Win2k + unofficial kernel extenders/wrappers but you still must have the required hardware to use Flash 18 (aka. 2.33Ghz single core or uni-core Intel x86 CPU/processor or faster, Intel Atom 1.6Ghz dual-core CPU for netbooks, 512Mb of physical RAM, 1Gb of RAM for netbooks, and 128Mb of video RAM)
Flash Player 18 may not work well on old hardware with relatively weak CPUs and/or old graphics cards with less than 128Mb of graphics memory.
I've upgraded my custom built PC with an old Intel board that used to have an Intel Pentium 4 Hyperthread (641) 3.2Ghz processor to an Intel Pentium D (945) 3.4Ghz CPU. It also had 2Gb of physical RAM and had onboard ATI Xpress 200 graphics chipset with 128Mb of video RAM with Windows 7 x64. I might try running KM 75 RC3 & Flash Player 18 on a separate hard drive using Windows XP x64 edition. The OSes I'm using on my custom built PC are now 64-bit instead of 32-bit because the CPUs have 64-bit instruction set on them.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 06/13/2015 05:06PM by 4td8s.
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.292 ESR & 18.0.0.160
Posted by:
guenter
Date: June 13, 2015 11:46PM
Quote
4td8s
. The OSes I'm using on my custom built PC are now 64-bit instead of 32-bit because the CPUs have 64-bit instruction set on them.
You can use 32 bit XP 4 CPU like: "CPU Type mobile DualCore AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-56, 1800 MHz (9 x 200)" Copy & paste from Everest Ultimate - which detects hardware & more.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/13/2015 11:50PM by guenter.
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.292 ESR & 18.0.0.160
Posted by:
callahan
Date: June 14, 2015 09:23AM
The only computers I have at present are three Pentium M ThinkPads from around 2004/2005 time frame ... with XP SP3 installed ... all seems OK for now.
Thanks 4td8s, guenter, JohnHell and others ... good to still be able to use the newer version of flash coming in August. This information that you have posted ... will be good for others with questions also.
...
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.292 ESR & 18.0.0.160
Posted by:
guenter
Date: June 14, 2015 06:59PM
Quote
callahan
The only computers I have at present are three Pentium M ThinkPads from around 2004/2005 time frame ... with XP SP3 installed ... all seems OK for now
...
My above machine is from around 2007. It originally came with Vista.
But AFAIK it pretty much has the same specs as Your Pentium M Thinkpad.
Mine is a FUJITSU SIEMENS AMILO Pa 2510. I also have 2 more such machines.
With Vista it was so unbearably slow (even with 2 GB RAM) that I first installed dual boot XP/Vista. And when I had found all XP drivers I gave Vista the coup de grace which put the PC and me out of misery.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/14/2015 08:02PM by guenter.
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.292 ESR & 18.0.0.160
Posted by:
rodocop
Date: June 14, 2015 08:43PM
Vista could be different ;-)
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.292 ESR & 18.0.0.160
Posted by:
guenter
Date: June 14, 2015 08:53PM
Quote
rodocop
Vista could be different ;-)
Yes You can slim it before install with vlite. But I did not know then.
Plus XP can be slimmed with nlite. No way to beat that with Vista/vlite. IMHO.
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.292 ESR & 18.0.0.160
Posted by:
rodocop
Date: June 14, 2015 09:20PM
I'm not going to compare XP and Vista in terms of system load. XP is way lighter.
But you can tweak Vista (if there is no other option) even after install.
I had at least one case of hardcore optimization of Vista on the laptop with 1Gb of RAM - and I've got it working smooth.
(Disclaimer: I don't like Vista anyway)
Re: Flash Player 13.0.0.292 ESR & 18.0.0.160
Posted by:
JohnHell
Date: June 16, 2015 05:37PM
A behavior I just found with YouTube and K-meleon, starting today, is that, with independence of the version of flash (13.x or 18.x), if you have the user agent set to default, without Firefox compatible option, it plays the HTML5 version.
I post this in this thread just in case happens to someone and thinks the versions aren't recognized or compatible with K-meleon.
Re: Flash Player
Posted by:
siria
Date: June 18, 2015 09:51PM
Just had a prob with youtube too, wanted to play a video and - nothing. Just a black box. Looks like youtube sends no flash anymore to KM1.6, only html5 videos. Which don't play either, no idea if due to KM1.6 or just my profile. Obviously the almighty google/youtube boss decided I shouldn't be allowed to view videos anymore
Finally figured out that IE7 user agent helped, and FF2.1
Then reading this post: Oh - all it takes is a FF agent??
Bingo - you're right! Had forgotten to test with FF3.5, incredible
Hmm, forgot it because in the past an older FF agent used to give "old browser" warnings on youtube, unlike the native KM1.6 agent - or so I thought. Perhaps I remembered that wrong, or perhaps youtube actually removed that warning now?? At any rate it doesn't show, with neither KM nor old FF name.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/18/2015 09:58PM by siria.
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