Hi,
We love K-Meleon but got burnt out with the relentless unexpected browser-shutdowns when we'd try to use the Hotlist to open a new page. This was random, it seemed, and we never could figure out how to make it stop--although twiddling with some settings did seem to DIMINISH the abrupt closures.

Finally, out of sheer exhaustion, we downloaded Seamonkey and have been trying it out. It is very nice, albeit seemingly SLOWER than K-Meleon. However, it does EVERYTHING we need as far as BOOKMARKS go (and what we missed in K-Meleon). We love the way it "FILES bookmarks" in our categories and easily allows us to create new folders for "filing."

This is what K-Meleon lacks--or what we never could make K-Meleon do.

Is there any way that K-Meleon can incorporate a Bookmark function SIMILAR to the one built into SeaMonkey? It seems absurd to go through such havoc and angst, just to have a working set of bookmarks that one can count on.

We'd clearly prefer to use K-Meleon if this Bookmark problem could be permanently resolved, because it is faster and simpler. (SeaMonkey requires a lot of gyrations to enable/disable Cookies & Javascript, not nearly as easy and fast as K-Meleon.)

Thanks in advance if anyone can figure out a way to "adopt" Bookmarks used by SeaMonkey for the K-Meleon Hotlist! If K-M could "emulate" the SeaMonkey Bookmark function, we'd jump for joy!

Cheers.

Actually, setting up bookmarks is not really all that different from Seamonkey. However, since you like the way Seamonkey does it, K-M can use Seamonkey's bookmark file (bookmarks.html). So, you can set the bookmarks.html in Seamonkey and then copy the bookmarks.html to K-M. You don't want the two browsers to use the same file since K-M strips the bookmarks.html file of characters that set the favicons in SeaMonkey. Anyway, normally Seamonkey stores its bookmark file in the Folder \Documents and Settings\(yourname)\Application Data\mozilla.org\Seamonkey\profiles\(somefunnynumber).default\bookmarks.html. When you find the bookmarks.html using Windows Explorer, highlight it and press Ctrl-C (cntr and c). Then, go up to the Folder above that which says \K-Meleon\default\(somefunnynumber) and when you click on that you will see the bookmarks.html that K-M is using. Just click into the right pane of Windows Explorer and hold down the keys Ctrl-V (cntrl and v) and it will ask you if you want to replace the existing file and tell it yes.
I just take it from your note that you have a lot of folders with web addresses within them and you find SeaMonkey's interface easier, so this way you wouldn't have to duplicate in K-M what you did in SeaMonkey.

Hi again,
Well, we are now thoroughy confused! Did a search for bookmarks.html and found EIGHT instances, spread among Docs & Settings & Prog Files (for Seamonkey, Firefox, and K-Meleon)!

Wondering why these programs are creating so many of these bookmark.html files, and could that be why people seem to have so much trouble with their Bookmarks/Hotlists (in K-M)?

Isn't there a simpler way to tell K-M to use same style of bookmarking that Seamonkey uses? There is an EXPORT BOOKMARKS function in Seamonkey, but we haven't tried it and are still confused as to which "profile" (why are there so many profiles??) folder the REAL bookmarks.html file should be in, in K-M.

I guess we could just experiment and see what happens if we just "COPY" our Seamonkey Bookmarks.html into various folders of K-M, but would rather that the developers would figure out how to SIMPLIFY this whole thing, because this is asking a LOT (too much, imo) of end-users, to keep messing around like this with Bookmarks. Bookmarking is a VERY BASIC FUNCTION that should be built into any modern browser, and it should know how to organize ("file" into various categories and subcategories, and create Folders) things. Seamonkey's Bookmarks seem to know how to do this, but K-M's Hotlist/Bookmarking just is not performing the same way. Opera has always had a great mechanism for bookmarking and stylizing your Hotlist/bookmarks (they're the same thing in Opera, I think; not sure why K-M makes a distinction).

It is also not clear whether we're supposed to enable the Netscape Plug-in for the bookmarks, in trying to get K-M to "emulate" the Seamonkey style of bookmarks? Or is that not related at all and can be left in Disabled state?

Any clarifications to break up some of this confusion would be welcome!

Thanks.

PS We're using Win2000, if that makes any difference, as to where things are filed and why there are so MANY of these files called profiles & bookmarks.html !?

OK, I'm back...
Did another search after creating new bookmark, and finally located the one ACTIVE bookmarks.html folder! It was filed under C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\ .
Then copied that file over into the K-M profiles, and ENABLED Netscape Bookmark Plug-in. Finally have BOOKMARKS (in addition to HOTLIST) and have created a new bookmark and new folder using THIS version of the Bookmarking function.

Immediately got a QUERY from the system about doing so because it recognized that this was NOT the typical Bookmark file it expected, so told it to save it. It seems it did work. So this is "more or less" almost as good as the Seamonkey bookmarking function, but it's not as simple, straightforward, easy to manage.

But close enough, I guess!

I guess this still means that we'll have two different sets of bookmarks, between the two browsers (SM and KM) and they'll evolve differently, based on when and where we edit as we surf in each respective browser.

Oh well, hopefully it will all work itself out. We'll just be grateful if the crashing/closing of KM stops as we use our bookmarks!

Thanks for your help!


PS Can we just get rid of the HOTLIST and use JUST the BOOKMARKS now? If so, how?
Thanks again.

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PS Can we just get rid of the HOTLIST and use JUST the BOOKMARKS now? If so, how?

What are your like says, delete Hotlist of menu (unactivate plugin) or copy your links in Hotlist to Bookmarks?

@guest-here
Yes, the "Hotlist" you refer to is really the Opera style bookmarks. Just go to Edit-Advanced Preferences and in the left pane under K-Meleon plugins, click on Opera Hotlist and remove the check mark which enables it. Press OK. Then, close down K-Meleon, then restart it. The "Hotlist" menu item will disappear.

Unfortunately, you are correct that you will have to keep two bookmark lists, and if your were using Firefox or Dr Orca, their lists would also have to be kept separately. Each program puts "stuff" into the html code like the url to be used, but some also put into it the location of the favicon so that those little icons will appear next to the name of the page you have bookmarked. You could share the bookmarks with Seamonkey, but K-Meleon will strip out those characters if you save them.

As to the number of places these are put - most of the mozilla browsers will place there bookmarks in the \Documents and Settings\...\Application Data\... of your hard drive. However, there will also be a bookmarks.html put into those same browsers under \Program Files\K-Meleon (or Mozilla or Firefox)\. K-Meleon does this so that you can run different "themes" of K-Meleon which will not interfere with each others macros. This is done by including a profile.ini entry in the directory of the K-Meleon experimental or old "theme". In that case, if you want to use your bookmarks for your K-Meleon 1.2 you could copy them down to the \Program Files\K-Meleon (whatever name you call it)\Profiles\Default\funnynumber\ This way the two different K-Meleon versions won't conflict or overwrite things in the \Application Settings\ subdirectories.