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New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: Zvonko
Date: April 29, 2015 12:50PM

I'am going crazy! I thought that I understood K-Meleons's bookmarks concept and that everything is working fine, but I was wrong ...

I am using the Netscape Bookmarks option, with bookmarks.html in profile folder. The bookmarks file was originally created from my old browser, and I edited it in K-Meleon Bookmark editor. 'All Bookmarks' is set as Toolbar Folder (and as New Bookmarks Folder) and is displayed correctly as toolbar. All bookmarks from toolbar and its subfolders are working fine.

However, if I add a new bookmark, this is displayed on the toolbar, but isn't working. Bookmarks.html shows that all new bookmarks are stored not with the http URL, but with 'file:///' following by the path of the profile folder.

What am I doing wrong???

Thank you very much in advance!



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/29/2015 12:54PM by Zvonko.

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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: Zvonko
Date: April 29, 2015 04:54PM

Part 2:

Even with a completely fresh installation the same experience. All settings default, only activated toolbars Bookmarks and Menu. A new bookmar is displayed on the Bookmarks toolbar and in the Bookmarks Edit window, where immediately (in the same session) can be seen under Properties that the URL field is empty.

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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: siria
Date: April 29, 2015 04:58PM

Not your fault:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?8,132917

It was a bug, but think Dorian got it finally fixed with one of the latest RC2 incremental "updates". Am not quite current which and where the latest are found, somewhere shattered all across the above thread pages...

======= EDIT:
New readers skip next posts, further down in this thread Dorian posted the fixed plugin "bookmarks.dll" for KM75:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?1,133422,133448#msg-133448
(replace the old one in folder kplugins)
Alternatively the bookmarks.dll from KM1.6 works too, incl. in older KM versions like KM74.



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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: Zvonko
Date: April 29, 2015 05:28PM

Hm ... I am using 74.0 ... ??!!

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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: April 29, 2015 05:47PM

Then you'll need to go to the latest 75 RC2 update 5 from the announcements forum thread.

I don't remember of that problem in 74 but was a year ago.

You can, anyway, try the bookmarks.dll plugin file from the latest 75 version update. It should be safe to use it without any trouble.

Just in case, make a backup of your profile first to preserve a bookmarks.html backup.


EDIT:
Extract it from the kplugins folder and extract to 74 corresponding folder:
http://kmeleon.sf.net/files/km75rc2u5.zip



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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: Zvonko
Date: April 29, 2015 06:06PM

You mean bookmarks.dll from this 75|5 update in my 74?

I tried this, but then no bookmarks adding is possible at all.

I think, I should switch to 75 ...??!!

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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: rodocop
Date: April 29, 2015 06:21PM

Zvonko,
you are not alone!

I'm reporting this bug every time KM updates! ;-) But I'm not sure about KM75RC2u5 as I haven't made clean test for this assembly.

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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: siria
Date: April 29, 2015 06:41PM

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Zvonko
Bookmarks.html shows that all new bookmarks are stored not with the http URL, but with 'file:///' following by the path of the profile folder.

The funny thing is, just minutes ago I found a similar prob with my own "Favorites" macro grinning smiley Claims "file not found" although all looks fine, then turns out it just can't handle semicolons ";" in the fav names. Now just curious, although those are completely different systems: Did you look inside your bookmarks html with a text editor, to see the real links inside? If yes, do the wrong ones also have special characters in the path?

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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: Zvonko
Date: April 29, 2015 06:43PM

I downloaded KM 75RC2, extracted it, downloaded U5, extracted the content to the same folder, copied my profile folder from KM 74, activated it as default, and:

The same problem ...

PS:
In both versions (74 too!): If 'Use dialog to create new bookmarks' is unchecked new bookmarks are correctly added.



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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: siria
Date: April 29, 2015 07:01PM

@all: does it work when using a subfolder as default target?
Have a very dim memory that Dorian mentioned something about needing a subfolder, but may well remember this wrong or perhaps it was about another subject...

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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: April 29, 2015 07:05PM

As Dorian sometimes says (it drives me crazy tongue sticking out smiley): works for me.

But let's go deep, how do you add the bookmarks? Adding form context menu and from the Bookmarks menu, works for me without problems.

The "only" difference in my case is that I set the preference to false as I don't like that menu item in bookmarks, but even, I tested, and it worked.

kmeleon.plugins.bookmarks.menuAddBookmark


@Siria, at least in my case, doesn't matter if you add to the root folder, to the toolbar folder, to a folder, to the default folder, with context menu, without it, with shortcut, etc, etc. :-?

Might be locales as with the crash in zoom recently discovered? I don't use locales, my install is english.


Note @Zvonki: updates must be added one by one, not the latest, because some don't include the previous. They aren't cumulative.

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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: rodocop
Date: April 29, 2015 07:06PM

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Zvonko
I downloaded KM 75RC2, extracted it, downloaded U5, extracted the content to the same folder, copied my profile folder from KM 74, activated it as default, and:

The same problem ...

PS:
In both versions (74 too!): If 'Use dialog to create new bookmarks' is unchecked new bookmarks are correctly added.

This is exactly what I've already reported here some time ago...



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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: rodocop
Date: April 29, 2015 07:11PM

JohnHell,

u4 and u5 definitely ARE cumulative. (even Dorian emphasized this)



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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: rodocop
Date: April 29, 2015 07:13PM

siria,

as I recall, point was that adding into 'old' bookmark-files works fine, but not so for new empty one.

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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: Chanson Yu
Date: April 30, 2015 12:10PM

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rodocop
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Zvonko
I downloaded KM 75RC2, extracted it, downloaded U5, extracted the content to the same folder, copied my profile folder from KM 74, activated it as default, and: The same problem ...

PS:
In both versions (74 too!): If 'Use dialog to create new bookmarks' is unchecked new bookmarks are correctly added.

This is exactly what I've already reported here some time ago...

Zvonko and rodocop,I can confirm this bug,both in KM74 and KM75!Really annoying!
I'm using the bookmarks.dll from 1.6.0 in KM74,just could save the URL successfully!

@ Dorian,we need your help for solving this problem! Thanks in advance!

By the way,my operating system is Windows XP SP3!

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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: Dorian
Date: May 01, 2015 03:40PM

Run kmeleon with the attached plugin, open the console, add a bookmark and tell me what appear in the console

Attachments: bookmarks.dll (114 KB)  
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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: rodocop
Date: May 01, 2015 06:28PM

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Dorian
Run kmeleon with the attached plugin, open the console, add a bookmark and tell me what appear in the console



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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: rodocop
Date: May 01, 2015 06:35PM

more (ya.ru was the site I've tried to bookmark; bug is present):





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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: Dorian
Date: May 02, 2015 06:06PM

I don't know why it doesn't work but this should fix it

Attachments: bookmarks.dll (113 KB)  
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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: Zvonko
Date: May 02, 2015 07:20PM

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Dorian
I don't know why it doesn't work but this should fix it

Dorian, at least with KM 75 this dll is not usable at all: Deleting bookmarks in Bookmarks > Edit seems to work, but the bookmarks are not removed from toolbar ...

UPDATE/EDIT:
Sorry, this was because of the old bookmarks.dll left in kplugins (renamed to bookmarsOLD.dll). After removing it and leaving only your new bookmarks.dll in kplugins, the problem seems to be resolved, new bookmarks can be added.

I will continue my test ...



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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: rodocop
Date: May 02, 2015 10:52PM

Fix works for me too!

Thank you, Dorian!

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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: Chanson Yu
Date: May 04, 2015 02:44AM

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Dorian
I don't know why it doesn't work but this should fix it

Now the URL can be saved both in KM74 and KM75,but the icons of bookmark folders and websites couldn't be showed in KM74.

KM75:

KM74:

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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: Zvonko
Date: May 04, 2015 07:56AM

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DORIAN,

your new bookmarks.dll is working perfectly under KM 75.


But what amazes me is how it is possible that a problem with adding new bookmarks was not reported massively before.

Could it be that this problem occurs only in specific circumstances?

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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: rodocop
Date: May 04, 2015 03:02PM

It WAS reported by me every time new build was published ;-)

But most of users here (I think so) do unpack new builds over old installations, where the old non-empty bookmarks.html is present. There were no glitches with such already filled bookmark-files.

Only with new ones.

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Re: New bookmarks (again) ... not working!?
Posted by: Zvonko
Date: May 04, 2015 03:24PM

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rodocop
There were no glitches with such already filled bookmark-files.

Thank you, I understand.

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