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Flash Player vs HTML5 - YouTube
Posted by: lordtyred
Date: October 20, 2015 11:26AM

Hi, guys!
I've must be a hundredth person asking that question, but i've read a lot of solutions and nothing was work for me.

Is there any way to use Flash Player on YouTube instead of that pesky HTML5 in K-Meleon?
Maybe someone got working portable version with that fix. It will be much appreciated for you to share this, i'm sure!

Best regards and thanks for your time.

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Re: Flash Player vs HTML5 - YouTube
Posted by: Yogi
Date: October 20, 2015 02:36PM

Either you install the Flash package from Adobe or you place NPSWF32.dll in the root folder of K-Meleon.
As far as I can see, HTML5 is served by YouTube only if Flash plugin isn't detected.

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Re: Flash Player vs HTML5 - YouTube
Posted by: lordtyred
Date: October 20, 2015 02:53PM

As far i see, HTML5 player is in priority. I.e., there is special plugins to disable HTML5 player in YouTube for FireFox and Google.Chrome.
Flash player is installed in my system, but YouTube is always trying to enable HTML5 player by default.

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Re: Flash Player vs HTML5 - YouTube
Posted by: Yogi
Date: October 20, 2015 03:47PM

I did now several tests with YouTube and always got the flash version.
As soon as I delete the flash plugin I get the HTML5 version of the clip.



Would you please give the YouTube link where HTML5 is the default.

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Re: Flash Player vs HTML5 - YouTube
Posted by: siria
Date: October 20, 2015 05:07PM

Actually it was officially announced just recently, and also mentioned here in our forum, that the monopolists want flash dead now.

Here are some prefs and descriptions:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Changing_media_handling_behaviour#Audio_and_video_content

The intention mainly seems to FORCE html5 though...
But perhaps that one helps?
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Firefox "Options -> Applications" settings for those content types are ignored, unless you toggle the preference media.windows-media-foundation.enabled to false in about:config



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Re: Flash Player vs HTML5 - YouTube
Posted by: lordtyred
Date: October 21, 2015 08:40AM

Thanks!
I've got it working now!

That's strange that they force HTML5 for everyone. 99% percent of users will use HTML5 by default and don't care. Why they want to forbid Flash player for that 1% who use it?
Flash it's much faster on my Atom 2600 netbook connected to TV in 720 full screen. Why they so care about me)

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Re: Flash Player vs HTML5 - YouTube
Posted by: siria
Date: October 21, 2015 09:41AM

Just my personal guess: for the same reason for which they forbid users to block javascript since some time. They aren't ready to miss even the tiniest bit of personal information they can get into their greedy hands. Currently at least experts still have a chance to toggle a hidden pref in about:config for both settings, but we never know if they kill that too some day.

Please be so kind and also reveal to us what *exactly* helped to fix it? :cool:



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Re: Flash Player vs HTML5 - YouTube
Posted by: lordtyred
Date: October 21, 2015 11:47AM

I'm really not sure. I've unisntall K-Meleon with deleting all personal info, then delete folders in Program Files, Documents and Settings and (by some reason) there was a folder in location where installation package initially was.
Then i've reinstall it again, go to flash player download site and reinstall it from K-meleon.
And - it works for good! Maybe some Flash block settings was wrong or flash player version was not 'K-meleon-type', but now it's Flash player on YouTube.

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Re: Flash Player vs HTML5 - YouTube
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: October 21, 2015 03:53PM

I bet for Flash version if you hadn't it updated, probably they are banning, as Google with Chrome and Mozilla with Firefox, the outdated plugins (specially Flash).

Probably Google started to do it with Youtube.

I guess for my bet. Only that.

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Re: Flash Player vs HTML5 - YouTube
Posted by: Yogi
Date: October 21, 2015 09:24PM

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siria
They aren't ready to miss even the tiniest bit of personal information they can get into their greedy hands.

It's also the main reason for embedding Flash and HTML5 via JavaScript.
Both could work fine without JavaScript.

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Re: Flash Player vs HTML5 - YouTube
Posted by: Baaa
Date: July 01, 2016 04:53AM

Can anyone just tell:

HOW TO COMPLETE TURN F**KING OFF HTML5 on K-meleon 76 RC ?

I so tired to f**k with that problem! ]:<

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Re: Flash Player vs HTML5 - YouTube
Posted by: Baaa
Date: July 01, 2016 05:37AM

Holy sh*t! To turn off HTML5 on youtube we need to set to false these:

media.fragmented-mp4.enabled
media.ogg.enabled
media.wave.enabled
media.webm.enabled
media.windows-media-foundation.enabled

in about:config!

Especially f**cking !!! media.fragmented-mp4.enabled !!!

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Re: Flash Player vs HTML5 - YouTube
Posted by: foliator
Date: July 01, 2016 03:06PM

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Baaa
To turn off HTML5 on youtube we need to set to false these:

media.fragmented-mp4.enabled
media.ogg.enabled
media.wave.enabled
media.webm.enabled
media.windows-media-foundation.enabled

in about:config!

Yes, this works perfectly on YouTube. It solves another problem for me, too: It bypasses the browser's built-in HTML5 player and lets me open media files from sites other than YouTube in my system's associated media player. For MP3s, I also had to set media.autoplay.enabled to false, because despite my selection in about:preferences#applications, MP3s were always playing in the HTML5 player and using the same tab, so that I kept losing the web page while listening to the audio. If I hit the back button to get back to the page, the playing stopped. Now my player pops up on top of the page; exactly what I wanted!

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Gerry



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/01/2016 03:06PM by foliator.

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Re: Flash Player vs HTML5 - YouTube
Posted by: Baaa
Date: July 01, 2016 03:27PM

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foliator
media.autoplay.enabled to false

Yeah. Forgot to mention it. I have it false too.

So, we should make this:

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media.autoplay.enabled
media.fragmented-mp4.enabled
media.ogg.enabled
media.wave.enabled
media.webm.enabled
media.windows-media-foundation.enabled

to "false" to be happy smiling smiley

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Re: Flash Player vs HTML5 - YouTube
Posted by: foliator
Date: July 01, 2016 06:42PM

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Baaa
So, we should make this:

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media.autoplay.enabled
media.fragmented-mp4.enabled
media.ogg.enabled
media.wave.enabled
media.webm.enabled
media.windows-media-foundation.enabled

to "false" to be happy smiling smiley

Or at least until Google finds a way of overriding Mozilla's media settings. grinning smiley

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Gerry

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Re: Flash Player vs HTML5 - YouTube
Posted by: Baaa
Date: July 02, 2016 03:16PM

Yeah. F**k google!

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Re: Flash Player vs HTML5 - YouTube
Posted by: foliator
Date: July 03, 2016 11:27PM

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Baaa
Yeah. F**k google!

I have to admit that their search engine is excellent. My search results with other engines usually fall way short of what I can find with Google. That said, however, their other activities are motivated more by greed than anything else.

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Gerry

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