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In the History of K-Meleon, we read an intro paragraph which is fascinating:
"Christophe Thibault released K-Meleon 0.1 (2000-08-20) after one day of coding. This release did not implement features such as Context menu, HTTPS, History, Cookies saving, Mime types handling, etc, etc... It was mainly a rebranded version of Mozilla's test application for embedding Gecko under Windows; winEmbed."
I'd enjoy hearing more about that, from anyone who knows. Was this a work of genius, or was it more a focused endeavour by a very knowledgeable person, or --?-- Would there be a fair number of people capable of such an achievement? I think it was not only remarkable in itself, but it was also a superb way in which this superb browser got its start.
Thanks, Andrew, for giving me that link.
A friend told me Tchaikovsky created the entire Nutcracker Suite, including all its component parts, from start to finish in two weeks. Then he looked at me and said, "Um...by the way--what have you done in these past two weeks or so?" ;-)
Er... I found & downloaded 0.2.1 (IIRC) some months ago, and it was very similar to mfcEmbed. I haven't seen the old winEmbed, but I think early K-Meleons didn't have much improvement on it.
I see. Thanks for the answer. So, it was a very nice piece of work, but for someone with your level of knowledge (much much more than mine), it was not extraordinary. Maybe it was more outstanding for its creativity. :-)
Well, the text you quoted said it all: "It was mainly a rebranded version of Mozilla's test application for embedding Gecko under Windows; winEmbed." The version Christophe created wasn't special, but more important was the idea of a lean Mozilla(-based) browser, like the excitement about Phoenix (Firebird/Firefox) when it came out a few years(?) later.
rmn,
I think that's about right. By creating a browser using the native Windows interfaces, not XUL, Christophe was showing the potential to do something that was fast and lean on the Windows platform.
Carson afaik You can still get winembed when installing mozilla test browsers -
i have got one with: Mozilla 1.8a2 full install - it is still available - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.8a2) Gecko/20040714 - that is the exact version where i have it. it is still delivered but not developed any more.
they ran into problems so they only work on mfcembed.
kind regards
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He created K-M in one day and rested for six?
Posted by:
Carson
Date: January 08, 2005 09:41PM
In the History of K-Meleon, we read an intro paragraph which is fascinating:
"Christophe Thibault released K-Meleon 0.1 (2000-08-20) after one day of coding. This release did not implement features such as Context menu, HTTPS, History, Cookies saving, Mime types handling, etc, etc... It was mainly a rebranded version of Mozilla's test application for embedding Gecko under Windows; winEmbed."
I'd enjoy hearing more about that, from anyone who knows. Was this a work of genius, or was it more a focused endeavour by a very knowledgeable person, or --?-- Would there be a fair number of people capable of such an achievement? I think it was not only remarkable in itself, but it was also a superb way in which this superb browser got its start.
Thanks, Andrew, for giving me that link.
A friend told me Tchaikovsky created the entire Nutcracker Suite, including all its component parts, from start to finish in two weeks. Then he looked at me and said, "Um...by the way--what have you done in these past two weeks or so?" ;-)
Re: He created K-M in one day and rested for six?
Posted by:
rmn
Date: January 09, 2005 03:20AM
Er... I found & downloaded 0.2.1 (IIRC) some months ago, and it was very similar to mfcEmbed. I haven't seen the old winEmbed, but I think early K-Meleons didn't have much improvement on it.
Re: He created K-M in one day and rested for six?
Posted by:
Carson
Date: January 09, 2005 03:36AM
I see. Thanks for the answer. So, it was a very nice piece of work, but for someone with your level of knowledge (much much more than mine), it was not extraordinary. Maybe it was more outstanding for its creativity. :-)
Re: He created K-M in one day and rested for six?
Posted by:
rmn
Date: January 09, 2005 03:46AM
Well, the text you quoted said it all: "It was mainly a rebranded version of Mozilla's test application for embedding Gecko under Windows; winEmbed." The version Christophe created wasn't special, but more important was the idea of a lean Mozilla(-based) browser, like the excitement about Phoenix (Firebird/Firefox) when it came out a few years(?) later.
Re: He created K-M in one day and rested for six?
Posted by:
Andrew
Date: January 09, 2005 05:35AM
rmn,
I think that's about right. By creating a browser using the native Windows interfaces, not XUL, Christophe was showing the potential to do something that was fast and lean on the Windows platform.
Re: He created K-M in one day and rested for six?
Posted by:
guenter
Date: January 10, 2005 07:15AM
Carson afaik You can still get winembed when installing mozilla test browsers -
i have got one with: Mozilla 1.8a2 full install - it is still available - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.8a2) Gecko/20040714 - that is the exact version where i have it. it is still delivered but not developed any more.
they ran into problems so they only work on mfcembed.
kind regards
