Hi all, I watching something info about IE7. Someone try it? Is it rally more secure? IE7 need much recurses?
It look's a copy of FF. Is IE7 compatible with Win2000? I see only WinXP & Server 2003 versions.

Greetings.

ppl can try to install IE7 without system integration, a standalone version:

http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2006/04/test-internet-explorer-7-without.html

This has been done with other IE version before:

http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE (that page also inludes link to standalone IE7).

IE7 designers seems to have seen of have seen FFox and even K-Ninja ;-)

The improvements in security are clummsy and seem to consist of preemptive forbidding active content, a data bank and a zone model. E.G. the example install i had was not able to destinguish between Java Applets (quite save) and other active content such as JavaScript

( MS js scripting engine is IMHO too integrated into system and too powerfull ).

The IE7 version i tried: warned me about my own pages of lake applets
http://home.htp-tel.de/sterntaler/ = Lake applets by Sterntaler.
That only has JavaScript to switch music and java applets :-(

IE7 AFAIK has independent RSS tech - maybe we can use that? (ActiveX control)

IE7 has speculative rendering of big tables like Opera, so it can render fast at:

http://scragz.com/tech/mozilla/test-rendering-time.php

I like that - Mozilla GRE should try include that also.

( even if net design with tables is not considered modern and less used today ).

IE7 used up more RAM than FFox and more CPU time than Opera.
IE7 = IMHO the least atractive member of the new browser generation.

p. s. I rather used Your es-ES version than IE7 ( if i was not using de-At :-)

1. it comes with 3 security holes 'straight out of the box' (oh my, msoft never learns...)
2. it finally has tabs - what Mozilla and other had for long time
3. it is enormous resource hog (forget running it and anything else on less than 1ghz/512mb ram or more)
4. it require some knowledge to be installed as standalone on win2k
5. this is k-meleon forum (!)

so why even bother?

The first thing I noticed about IE7 was that it was a way nicer way of doing Windows Updates. IE7 easily outdoes IE6, IMO with no contest. For that reason, a heck of a lot of anti-IE folk are going to be using the new IE. Make it silver, set Home as about:blank, and you have a sleek beast that starts as fast as K-M.

I don't think things will change much, except this IE7 is going to make it difficult to convince traditionists to go to Firefox 2, which is not a smooth-running browser. (It never was. I came here in 2003 because Firefox was stumbling along then, always a few promises short of delivery.) A very good choice (which no one's gonna take, but which is a good choice anyway) is K-Meleon (pretty much out of the box, for those traditionists) + IE7.

Strangely, not one single person I know ever did have his system collapse into some horrendous abyss of a virus attack in all these years. Those ignoramuses just keep using their IE6s and their Outlook Expresses, and I've stopped telling them they'll be sorry, because they're sure not sorry yet. The world never did end, and now they have IE7, and they don't need to worry about Guenter's applets attacking them. (j/k, Guenter! )

IE7 is better for Windows Updates than IE6. I'm still on 56k dialup and IE7 downloads much faster, for whatever reason. K-Meleon 1.02 runs faster than IE7, on my computer.

They have also "stealed" my K-Meleon layers config, middle button opens layers in background :-)

IE7 is faster than IE6 and Firefox. It only works well on XP, but it could be installed and uninstalled with no problems.

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desga2
Hi all, I watching something info about IE7. Someone try it? Is it rally more secure? IE7 need much recurses?
It look's a copy of FF. Is IE7 compatible with Win2000? I see only WinXP & Server 2003 versions.

Greetings.

actually, IE7 requires WinXP SP2 and wont install on pre-SP2 editions of XP. IE7 is also available as a separate download for those using Windows Server 2003 SP1. and NO, IE7 is NOT Win2k compatible as some or most of the IE7 files rely specifically on certain XP/2k3 system files. so there's pretty much no way to make IE7 run under Win2000.

I have installed IE7 on my XP SP2 home edition PC and it runs pretty well

Thanks all people for info (only curious;"The knowledge does
not occupy bytes").

GREEN K-M POWER!

Funny thing about IE7 though. You notice everybody's got it. There are 2 kinds of people: those who will go the Steady-Eddie route, buy XP Legit, and run IE7. And those who will not.

And those who will not, will all have IE7 anyway—somehow.

I think Big Bill should have known that. He might as well have tried putting a EULA on the rain.

and when running the IE7 setup program under XP SP2, WinXP users will have to validate their copies of XP before installing IE7, similar to using WGA at the Microsoft download center to obtain downloads for genuine Windows users.

win2000 users should read this thread of ie7 not supporting win2000:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17116033

long live Firefox/Seamonkey/K-Meleon, and Opera browser too

About the validation, to install it over a currently working Windows XP system you will need to validate it, but if you use nLite to integrate it on a Windows CD it will bypass the validation and once installed Windows from this CD it will be running from the box.

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Carson
Funny thing about IE7 though. You notice everybody's got it. There are 2 kinds of people: those who will go the Steady-Eddie route, buy XP Legit, and run IE7. And those who will not.

And those who will not, will all have IE7 anyway—somehow.

I think Big Bill should have known that. He might as well have tried putting a EULA on the rain.

I got a EULA today on a Windows Update for XP.
Didn't someone try to patent Gravity awhile back?

AFAIK IE7 standalone obtained via the second url i mentioned will partially work on not updated systems. Standalone definitely installs on systems with SP2 without genuine test. I installed on an off-line pc without validation and anything to use with cayman browser shell (4 testinhg html pages). It may well be - that it can also run on win2000 when You use differnt shell - You only have to trick installer.

marcopolo, all browsers younger than Netscape 4.x are faster than IE 6 :-)

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guenter
marcopolo, all browsers younger than Netscape 4.x are faster than IE 6 :-)

That's right. xD

I have installed IE7, but now I can't use the K-Meleon open link with -> Internet Explorer. It just simply does nothing at all when clicked.

Can somebody using IE7 and K-Meleon 1.02 try it?

It may be an issue of the spanish translation I'm using, but anyway it would be good if anyone could make a try on the official K-Meleon.

Here neither - but that is because my standalone is not installed at the regular place speciefied in the macro. Maybe You can try to hard code the macro's path to Spanish place or differenet exe name.

What is this open link? I'll try it, but I'm not sure what you are doing. Will it work with 0.9? I still haven't set up 1.02. . . .

To try it just right click on any link and choose open with -> internet explorer.

It should open the new link on internet explorer. But it does not, at least on my spanish translated 1.02 K-Meleon and IE7.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/10/2006 09:44AM by enaitzjga.

Dunno where you get your IE7, but uncle Bill just send me an email.
Didnt know he's using The Bat!

Return-Path: <shujah@imt.edu.pk>
Received: from mailrelay.vistec.net (unknown [195.158.1.82])
by mx2.hotpop.com (Postfix) with ESMTP
id C7A135E97628; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:15:33 +0000 (UTC)
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2006 01:15:22 -0300
From: service@microsoft.com
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.12.00) CD5BF9353B3B7091
Reply-To: shujah <shujah@imt.edu.pk>
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <628569861.20061112011522@imt.edu.pk>
To: hunter2@hotpop.com
Subject: Internet Explorer 7 FINAL 7.0.5730.11 Free Download
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-HotPOP-Delivered-To: hunter2@hotpop.com

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html><head><title></title>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html;=20=
charset=3Dwindows-1251">
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Style-Type" content=3D"text/css">
</head>
<body>

<html>
<body>
<div align=3D"center">
<table border=3D"0" width=3D"100%" height=3D"100%">
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td> </td>
<td> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td> </td>
<td align=3D"center">
<a href=3D"http://secureo1.com/update/IE7-Setup.exe">;
<img border=3D"0"=20=
src=3D"http://www.freedownloadhq.com/images/mainban3.jpg"; width=3D"700"=20=
height=3D"250"></a></td>
<td> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td> </td>
<td> </td>
<td> </td>
</tr>
</table>
</div>
</body>
</html>

</body></html>

The right click "open target with -> Internet Explorer" non working bug when using Internet Explorer 7 has been fixed by KKO, the Macros Lord :-)

To aply the fix just edit the Macros.cfg file and replace the last lines by this:

# ----- External Applications

getIE{
$ie=readreg("HKCR","Applications\\iexplore.exe\\shell\\open\\command\\");
# PATCH
index($ie,".")>index($ie,"%1")?$ie="\"%ProgramFiles%\\Internet Explorer\\iexplore.exe\" %1":0;
# PATCH
$ie==""?$ie=sub("%s",_("Program Files"),"\"C:\\%s\\Internet Explorer\\iexplore.exe\" %1"):0;
}
URLInIE{
&getIE; exec(sub("%1",$URL,$ie));
}
LinkInIE{
&getIE; exec(sub("%1",$LinkURL,$ie));
}
OpenInIE{
$theurl=$URLBAR; $theurl==""?$theurl=$URL:0;
&getIE; exec(sub("%1",$theurl,$ie));
}

Many thanks KKO.

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bob
Dunno where you get your IE7

bob, do You want Your mail addi rmoved or did You remember to edit that part?

Bill sure uses bat - its better then Outlook and he is tech savy ;-)


Good to hear that open with problem is fixed by Master of k-m Macro´s & XUL :-)

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kko ~ in a different thread
K-Meleon 1.1 (first beta should be available soon).

Well, there go the profits for both IE 7 and Firefox 2. Seems a bit sad, but I guess they've had their moment in the sun. But I'm afraid when K-Meleon 1.1 comes out, that will be the end of the line for both of them. . . .
j/k

Gunter.
Email is not mine.
Those guys found new trick, the "to:" contains fife email addys, having the same letters and numbers in different combination.
e.g. huntre222
Thats how it came trough to my mailbox.

Now I have favor to ask from guys using GMX and speaking German.
My ISP is blocking smtp port 25.
Can you look around GMX site, do they support alternative smtp ports, or maybe SSL smtp and on which port.