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(resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: Grendel
Date: November 12, 2006 01:58AM

I'm not very savvy when it comes to adapting Firefox plug-ins or third-party programs to work with K-Meleon, so I need some help from the community.

http://tor.eff.org/

What I would like to do is find a way to configure this to work with K-Meleon. It seems like the easiest way is to adapt the Firefox plug-in included with the program, but I'm not certain how this is achieved.

EDIT: Nevermind. All I had to do was edit my proxy preferences. This is the first time I used Tor, so I didn't think it was going to be that simple.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/12/2006 02:27AM by Grendel.

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: bob
Date: November 12, 2006 05:45AM

>This is the first time I used Tor<

And hope its the last...
When you figure out that Tor runs on US Navy network

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: true blue
Date: November 12, 2006 06:21PM

Some websites will not allow you access if they see a request for data coming from a known Tor server node.

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: rmn
Date: November 13, 2006 05:34PM

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Tor runs on US Navy network

Yeah, I've also heard that cows in Germany can fly.

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 13, 2006 09:06PM

btw. torpark runs a k-meleon that is renamed & replaces that FFox.exe & folder.
( editing the torpark.ini did not work for me with 1.5.0.7

k-meleon folder gets a profile.ini

k-meleon prefs.js in profile gets

user_pref("network.dns.disableIPv6", true);
user_pref("network.proxy.no_proxies_on", "");
user_pref("network.proxy.socks", "localhost");
user_pref("network.proxy.socks_port", 9050);
user_pref("network.proxy.socks_remote_dns", true);
user_pref("network.proxy.type", 1);

with: xpcom.dll, xpcom_compat.dll, xpcom_core.dll & xpistub.dll from Gecko child that does not create k-meleon profiles folder in other location -
You get a tor-meleon for USB.

Torpark package is by John T. Haller, Tor by Nick Mathewson and Roger Dingledine.

p. s. Did not You know that Kühe can fly?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/13/2006 09:08PM by guenter.

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: bob
Date: November 14, 2006 12:42AM

http://www.onion-router.net/
and go to the bottom of the page

Then ask grandpa Gunter about JAP winking smiley

And suddenly in Germany pigs can fly

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: rmn
Date: November 14, 2006 02:14AM

Tor's FAQ clearly mentions that work on onion routing began as a US Navy research project. That Navy site says the same thing. So where is the bit about "running on US Navy network"?

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: bob
Date: November 14, 2006 05:10AM

Now you want me to find the word "running" on the net ?
Youre pathetic.

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: rmn
Date: November 14, 2006 09:17AM

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bob
Now you want me to find the word "running" on the net ?

No, I want to know how you come to the conclusion that Tor runs on the US Navy network.

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Youre pathetic.

Hm, that's one opinion.

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: Grendel
Date: November 14, 2006 11:38PM

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bob
When you figure out that Tor runs on US Navy network

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Tor relies on its users to act as servers for other users, so nothing is centralized.

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: Anonymous User
Date: November 15, 2006 12:07AM

Take it easy man, there's no need to be harsh, this is not the MAME forum :-)

If Bob thinks Tor works on a US Navy forum, he may be right or not, but I'm sure he must have readed it anywhere to say it. But what it's sure is that talking this way is not the best way to defend his point of view.

BTW why do you assume that working with the US Navy is a bad thing? I have nothing against them.

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: wet woodpecker
Date: November 15, 2006 04:17AM

Years ago, the U.S. Navy decided the OS they were using at the time was not secure enough. They began to construct an OS that was more secure, an entire OS, not just a router. Well, over time, money and people that had been designated for the new OS were deployed elsewhere. In the end, all that was left was a more secure router, not an entirely new OS. There's certainly nothing wrong with a secure router, but I wonder how the OS would've turned out if the money and people had been allowed to complete the project.

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 15, 2006 06:33AM

JAP is German project funded with public money.
But some officials do not like privacy after the attack against the Trade Center.


i like privacy e. g. Tor - no matter where it runs
& i was surprised how easy i can persuade a torpark system.


Sure swine fly 2 :-D

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: mark
Date: November 25, 2006 08:22AM

I use Tor and find few problems with it. If you don't know, using vidalia with privoxy and tor is a good combination to easily use tor and insure it's working as it's supposed to.

anyway, i'd like to see some instructions on how to add a "Tor button" of sorts like what is available in Firefox.

In Firefox theres an extension called torbutton. It's just a simple button you can click to enable your browser to use Tor, and you can click it again to disable using Tor and use a direct connection.

In other words, a simple button to toggle between the tor proxy settings and no proxy settings. I'm sure its possible, i just dont know how to do it. if someone has done this or is willing to do this, it would be a good contribution to k-meleon.

and btw, i did a lot of research into tor before using it, it is true that the tor network uses volunteer servers (user run servers) to run the network. When you are using tor and request a page, ur request is sent out to others on the network between 3-10 "nodes" before it reaches an "exit node" where it exits the tor network and goes to the site you want. while ur request is in the tor network, its encrypted. once it leaves it is just like if u sent it urself. Because of its design, it's virtually impossible to tell where exactly the request came from. i run a tor server myself and suggest anyone using tor to run a server also. if you run an exit node, u can tell tor what to allow out of your node. aka, u can tell it to only allow http requests on port 80 (web traffic) and nothing else, or u can allow ftp traffic port 21, or both, and/or other ports.

anyway, sorry for rambling, lol. a torbutton for k-meleon would be nice.

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: bst82551
Date: November 27, 2006 04:28AM

A tor button? This would be very easy to accomplish with the proxy toolbar I made a very long time ago.

Brian

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: bst82551
Date: November 27, 2006 04:31AM

Oh yes, and instead of fetching the file from:
http://brian2006.be/temp/Nuvola-0.3.2-mod.zip

You can find it here:
http://bst82551.ath.cx:8181/temp/Nuvola-0.3.2-mod.zip

Just so you know, this would require that you switch to the Nuvola skin or adapt this to another skin.

Brian

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 27, 2006 06:45AM

The Prefences dialogue of torbutton is all that seems usable for k-meleon.
( Showing ceratin thing in status bar & cetera & the button itself does not work ).

Brian we have more than we sometimes realize.
& You are a better dev than You admitted ;-)

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: mark
Date: November 27, 2006 09:26AM

i was actually thinking of maybe adding a button next to maybe the home button that can be clicked to change the proxy settings to what tor needs and when tor settings are used have the button with maybe a T and when normal settings are used have a button with a crossed out T. i used to know someone a long time ago who knew how to add buttons to the bar but i cant remember their name, lol.

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 27, 2006 01:10PM

The button as such is not the problem but the toggle macro.
If Brian has made some macro You look inside and use or try to understand what he did and then ask him if You need further info (he may have time to help and know).
In this forum the users try to help each other.

The buttons are defined in toolbar.cfg in skin and that is how a button looks.

# = the comment sign

Stop{ # the button name
ID_NAV_STOP # the macro or command taht the button governs
Stop loading this page # the info buble
toolhot.bmp[2] # active state
toolcold.bmp[2] # passive state
tooldead.bmp[2] # not functional state
}

# not all things are needed the last word has there experiment, further info in wiki.

To make it a bar You make extra:

bar{
# here commes the button code.
}

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: bob
Date: November 28, 2006 08:09AM

Ok guys, its your funeral.
If you wanna go, go with this.
http://www.torrify.com/manual.php
Theres your precious button.

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 28, 2006 11:33AM

hi,
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bob
Its Your funeral
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can You read the writings on the wall.

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guenter
torpark runs a k-meleon that is renamed & replaces that FFox.exe & folder.

we just want the

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bob
precious button
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not the www-torrifyied FFoxy exe.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/28/2006 11:57AM by guenter.


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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: Mark
Date: November 28, 2006 04:19PM

sounds like some negativity being exchanged in here.

it seems to me that bob here must hate tor, for what reason not sure. if u dont like tor, just steer clear of it. ur intitled to ur opinion, but dont fling negativity towards others.

as for the "button". just a simple button, ive been looking around for ways to do the button, but ive been soo busy recently, ive not had much time to try to figure out how to make a button to do what the tor button needs without a howto, lol.

but thats what lots of work does, especially when u got a lot of people wanting u to do stuff. yes i know how it is to have a lot of people wanting stuff from u, which is why im not begging and just waiting and trying to learn myself so the skilled talents can work on more important things. if however someone has the time and skill, by all means go for it, lol.

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: bob
Date: November 28, 2006 08:31PM

Gunter, dont be a baby.
Im surprised, when you've been in Vancouver, you didnt learn that
"Its your funeral" means
"Do wherever you want to do".

Anyway, I think it would be a good project for Duglas, to replace FF with km in torpark.
Also, there are some guys from liveCD coming here, they would be interested in
torpark + km.

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 29, 2006 04:59AM

@bob,
No was on the Island at UVic in 75/76 - where they still spoke English then ;-)

I have run k-meleon inside torpark already :-). I described procedure further up
& tried to quote from that post - further up in this thread.

PPL can easily transfer that to USB-stick. With other selected xpcom.dll, xpcom_compat.dll, xpcom_core.dll & xpistub.dll it will not even access hdd.

@Mark,
bob often manages to sound negative. & i had just before eliminated Spam and
found trolls post in other thread so i was in the mood of a junk-yard-dog.

button: I only know, how to make the button but not how to make the toggle
/ with the new macros i only know 2 start simple XUL :-(

After i learned to persuade torpark to use k-meleon i did not learn to setup tor.
You are far ahead of me - and thx for giving ppl that need it Your server time.
btw. It was interesting info You posted.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/29/2006 07:43AM by guenter.

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: bst82551
Date: November 30, 2006 04:57AM

You persuaded them to use K-Meleon instead of Firefox? That actually sounds like an easy task, considering K-Meleon's a lot easier to configure (with the deeper settings) than Firefox. In fact, I could probably come up with a K-Meleon version of Torpark within about a day if I spent the day on it.

Brian

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: bst82551
Date: November 30, 2006 06:18AM

@mark
If you are still interested, I tinkered around with it a bit and figured out a way to add a "torrify" button. It uses text only, but if you throw some graphics my way, I can make it work with that too (if you don't figure it out on your own).
Here's the code for it:

#----- Add to macros.cfg: ------

Torrify{
togglepref(INT, "network.proxy.type",1,0);
togglepref(STRING, "network.proxy.http","127.0.0.1",);
togglepref(INT, "network.proxy.http_port",8118,0);

togglepref(STRING, "network.proxy.ssl","127.0.0.1",);
togglepref(INT, "network.proxy.ssl_port",8118,0);

togglepref(STRING, "network.proxy.ftp","127.0.0.1",);
togglepref(INT, "network.proxy.ftp_port",8118,0);

togglepref(STRING, "network.proxy.gopher","127.0.0.1",);
togglepref(INT, "network.proxy.gopher_port",8118,0);

togglepref(STRING, "network.proxy.socks","127.0.0.1",);
togglepref(INT, "network.proxy.socks_port",9050,0); &Sync;

getpref(INT,"network.proxy.socks_port")==9050 ? $tip="is now ON":$tip="is now OFF";
statusbar("Tor ".$tip);
}

#----- Add to toolbars.cfg of the skin which you use -----

Torrify{
Torrify{
macros(Torrify)|Torrify
}
}

#----- Add inside the Sync macro inside of macros.cfg (Search for "Sync{")-----

setcheck("macros(Torrify)",getpref(INT,"network.proxy.socks_port") == 9050 ? true:false);
pluginmsg(toolbars,"CheckButton","Torrify,macros(Torrify),".(getpref(INT,"network.proxy.socks_port") == 9050 ? 1:0));


I hope this works for you. If something goes funny on you, let me know. I've tested it on K-MeleonCCF 0.05.2 and it works just fine.
When clicking this Torrify button, you will be told in the status bar and by the button's appearance that "Tor is now on" or "Tor is now off".
Just so you can see it, here is a link to a screenshot (the button is in the top right corner):

http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2cneayu


Brian



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/30/2006 06:21AM by bst82551.

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: bob
Date: December 01, 2006 05:29AM

Brian.
As I remember, torpark doesnt need hhtp,ssl,ftp and gopher loopbacks.
It uses only socks on port 9050. The rest is only strain on a system.
The button to toggle proxies first made Hao for km CCF couple years ago.
And I still think torpark-km or km-torpark would be nice addition to km family.
Portable or otherwise.

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: guenter
Date: December 01, 2006 06:58AM

brian's button does not need the extra exe (less strain) that starts torpark.
That is the advantage of this solution. But i do not know anything about tor.

AFAI have tested k-meleon can start & probably use e. g. fireftp extension - so the approach might be warranted - since other things can possibly be used also by individual k-m-ppl (it is easier to comment out than to create for an end-user & we are not exactly end-user type and still needed brian).

torpark package for FFox or k-m has the potential of running out of the box for
non technician/end-user type ppl - You could add a restart button. But the rest of the FFox button is not in reach btw. and/or will need extra windows or tabs in k-m.
Lets face it there are also advatages to the XULIFIED solutions of FFox.

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: bst82551
Date: December 01, 2006 01:50PM

Sorry... I've never actually used Tor before. I just looked up the settings for it on the internet and that's what I found.
You can strip out all of the unnecessary parts from that macro and it will still work just fine.

Torrify{
togglepref(INT, "network.proxy.type",1,0);
togglepref(STRING, "network.proxy.socks","127.0.0.1",);
togglepref(INT, "network.proxy.socks_port",9050,0); &Sync;

getpref(INT,"network.proxy.socks_port")==9050 ? $tip="is now ON":$tip="is now OFF";
statusbar("Tor ".$tip);
}

There's the macro set only to use socks.

I kept having trouble with getting it to stay on SOCKS v5 when I set it to toggle the preference for which version of SOCKS to use (I ended up taking it out altogether), so... if yours is for some reason set to SOCKS v4, make sure you change it to SOCKS v5 (the default for K-Meleon).

EDIT:
I've just read the reason for why that page had all of those other things. It's recommended that you use Privoxy with Tor. All of those other settings were for Privoxy. You would need to set Privoxy to use Tor as a proxy, which offers you two layers of protection instead of just one.

If you want to use TOR alone without Privoxy(not recommended, less secure),...
- taken from http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Nov-2006/msg00121.html

Privoxy does a good job at blocking ads, cookies, and the junk you don't want to make it to your web browser, which makes for both a faster loading of the page and less downloading (which is great if you're on dialup).

Brian



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/01/2006 02:04PM by bst82551.

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Re: (resolved) Configuring Tor to work with K-Meleon?
Posted by: roger
Date: December 13, 2006 01:22AM

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guenter
JAP is German project funded with public money.

Has anyone using JAP seen the anonymity meter read higher than 'fair'? I've used JAP for awhile and 'fair' is as high as I've seen the meter get. Just wondering.

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