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I used K-Meleon 1.1.5 user agent set to spoof IE 6.0 ( 6.0, not 7.0 ). I set proxy for Tor, then went to a website to see what browser website detected. It said I was using Firefox 2.0.0.14. I have Firefox 2.0.0 14 installed on my computer but I was not using Firefox at that time. I had to exit K-Meleon then re-enter for the user agent ( IE 6.0 ) to be correctly detected. Since Firefox 2.0.0.14 is not listed as an option on K-M 1.1.5 user agent selection ( Firefox 2.0.0.8 is ), I wonder why the website said that was the browser being used?
What's tool you are using in this page?
(I search in http://tools-on.net/ (english version))
K-Meleon in Spanish
I click on box that says 'Holmes Who'.
Who says:
Reported remote address
89.183.23.220
Browser
MSIE v 7.0
OS
Windows XP
Referer
http://www.leader.ru/secure/
Client's address we got
89.183.23.220
Client's hostname
a89-183-23-220.net-htp.de
Preferable mail server
Not found
The page did not detect that I used a German K-Meleon 1.1.4. This code only reads out the User Agent string that is sent by default or as the spoofed User Agent. It betrays my German IP. Germans and Russians habitually visit with native speaking browsers
So something must be wrong with my User Agent String 
Actually AFAIK You can devise a way to find that You are visited by a browser that is driven by a Gecko engine - but not which browser.
Go to Gemal.dk:
This is the give-away that betrays a Gecko with activeX:
ActiveX supported No or unable to detect... (that would be a true IE)
GeckoActiveX supported Yes ( any Gecko that has activeX support / this is the first thing that occured to me - there should be others ). To be fairly save against browser spying You need to switch off JavaScript.
Go here to find out more about Geckos at Gemal.dk:
UserAgent Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1)
Gecko Product Yes - version Gecko 20080203
Gecko Vendor Yes - version 1.1.4
Mozilla No or unable to detect...
K-Meleon No or unable to detect...
Tells You that I did the test with an 1.1.4 but even he cannot detect K-Meleon
to tell You would have to keep a list which 1.1.4 of what browser uses that particular Gecko engine.
So You can cleverly devise tests that give away much - if not all.
p. s. Gemal.dk is my standard browser spying page.
p.p.s. It is not good to spoof IEs since they speak another JavaScript dialect then Geckos. Spoofing IE causes JavaScript problems e.g. with Yahoo.mail and other pages. Also web pages assume that You can use IE's native mechanisms especially activeX. And these are not fully supported by the Gecko-ActiveX plugin.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/16/2008 05:33PM by guenter.
I have tried, and all the strings set are returned identical.
I have tried IE6 by using IE7 and changing by using Custom and replacing the string IE7 by IE6 , because the string handled with 1.1.5 is IE7, and it returns IE6
For me it's ok, but you must know that these strings are sometimes not tested to retrieve the real browser. Javascripts are often used.
A+
Mozilla/5.0 (x11; U; Linux x86_64; fr-FR; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Ubuntu/12.04 K-Meleon/76.0
Web: http://jujuland.pagesperso-orange.fr/
Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr
Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 05/16/2008 05:33PM by JujuLand.
@guenter,
@JujuLand,
Thanks for the information. The returning of user agent Firefox 2.0.0.14 when using K-Meleon 1.1.5 has happened only one time. I'm thinking it's one of those 'once in a blue moon' anomalies that happens to computers sometimes. Thanks again.
true - things happen, and greetings to TOR proxy network from htp.de
General discussion about K-Meleon
Wrong user agent
Posted by:
sam
Date: May 14, 2008 11:37PM
I used K-Meleon 1.1.5 user agent set to spoof IE 6.0 ( 6.0, not 7.0 ). I set proxy for Tor, then went to a website to see what browser website detected. It said I was using Firefox 2.0.0.14. I have Firefox 2.0.0 14 installed on my computer but I was not using Firefox at that time. I had to exit K-Meleon then re-enter for the user agent ( IE 6.0 ) to be correctly detected. Since Firefox 2.0.0.14 is not listed as an option on K-M 1.1.5 user agent selection ( Firefox 2.0.0.8 is ), I wonder why the website said that was the browser being used?
Re: Wrong user agent
Posted by:
sam
Date: May 15, 2008 10:54PM
Re: Wrong user agent
Posted by:
desga2
Date: May 16, 2008 09:18AM
What's tool you are using in this page?
(I search in http://tools-on.net/ (english version))
K-Meleon in SpanishRe: Wrong user agent
Posted by:
sam
Date: May 16, 2008 04:15PM
Quote
desga2
What's tool you are using in this page?
(I search in http://tools-on.net/ (english version))
I click on box that says 'Holmes Who'.
Re: Wrong user agent
Posted by:
guenter
Date: May 16, 2008 05:21PM
Who says:
Reported remote address
89.183.23.220
Browser
MSIE v 7.0
OS
Windows XP
Referer
http://www.leader.ru/secure/
Client's address we got
89.183.23.220
Client's hostname
a89-183-23-220.net-htp.de
Preferable mail server
Not found
The page did not detect that I used a German K-Meleon 1.1.4. This code only reads out the User Agent string that is sent by default or as the spoofed User Agent. It betrays my German IP. Germans and Russians habitually visit with native speaking browsers
So something must be wrong with my User Agent String
Actually AFAIK You can devise a way to find that You are visited by a browser that is driven by a Gecko engine - but not which browser.
Go to Gemal.dk:
This is the give-away that betrays a Gecko with activeX:
ActiveX supported No or unable to detect... (that would be a true IE)
GeckoActiveX supported Yes ( any Gecko that has activeX support / this is the first thing that occured to me - there should be others ). To be fairly save against browser spying You need to switch off JavaScript.
Go here to find out more about Geckos at Gemal.dk:
UserAgent Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1)
Gecko Product Yes - version Gecko 20080203
Gecko Vendor Yes - version 1.1.4
Mozilla No or unable to detect...
K-Meleon No or unable to detect...
Tells You that I did the test with an 1.1.4 but even he cannot detect K-Meleon
to tell You would have to keep a list which 1.1.4 of what browser uses that particular Gecko engine.
So You can cleverly devise tests that give away much - if not all.
p. s. Gemal.dk is my standard browser spying page.
p.p.s. It is not good to spoof IEs since they speak another JavaScript dialect then Geckos. Spoofing IE causes JavaScript problems e.g. with Yahoo.mail and other pages. Also web pages assume that You can use IE's native mechanisms especially activeX. And these are not fully supported by the Gecko-ActiveX plugin.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/16/2008 05:33PM by guenter.
Re: Wrong user agent
Posted by:
JujuLand
Date: May 16, 2008 05:26PM
I have tried, and all the strings set are returned identical.
I have tried IE6 by using IE7 and changing by using Custom and replacing the string IE7 by IE6 , because the string handled with 1.1.5 is IE7, and it returns IE6
For me it's ok, but you must know that these strings are sometimes not tested to retrieve the real browser. Javascripts are often used.
A+
Mozilla/5.0 (x11; U; Linux x86_64; fr-FR; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Ubuntu/12.04 K-Meleon/76.0
Web: http://jujuland.pagesperso-orange.fr/
Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr
Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 05/16/2008 05:33PM by JujuLand.
Re: Wrong user agent
Posted by:
sam
Date: May 17, 2008 09:30PM
@guenter,
@JujuLand,
Thanks for the information. The returning of user agent Firefox 2.0.0.14 when using K-Meleon 1.1.5 has happened only one time. I'm thinking it's one of those 'once in a blue moon' anomalies that happens to computers sometimes. Thanks again.
Re: Wrong user agent
Posted by:
guenter
Date: May 17, 2008 10:06PM
true - things happen, and greetings to TOR proxy network from htp.de
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