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Why Doesn't KM Use The New Gecko Engine?
Posted by: DasFox
Date: December 01, 2008 05:52AM

Why doesn't K-meleon use the latest Gecko engine?

Wouldn't this be better, more secure, etc.?

THANKS

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Re: Why Doesn't KM Use The New Gecko Engine?
Posted by: desga2
Date: December 01, 2008 06:20AM

Are you tried the last 1.5.2 RC?
This include last Gecko engine version 1.8.1.18.
Download K-Meleon 1.5.2RC.

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Re: Why Doesn't KM Use The New Gecko Engine?
Posted by: kevinnn
Date: December 01, 2008 08:01AM

Downloaded & installed it,i find km1.5.2 isn't using gko 1.8.1.18 but 1.8.1.16?


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Re: Why Doesn't KM Use The New Gecko Engine?
Posted by: desga2
Date: December 01, 2008 11:12AM

You must look again! smiling smiley
Help -> About K-Meleon

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About K-Meleon 1.5.2RC
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.18) Gecko/20081115 K-Meleon/1.5.2

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Re: Why Doesn't KM Use The New Gecko Engine?
Posted by: DasFox
Date: December 01, 2008 12:07PM

According to the Mozilla developers FF uses Gecko 1.9.0.4

And I thought Gecko 1.9.0.4 is the latest version?

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Re: Why Doesn't KM Use The New Gecko Engine?
Posted by: desga2
Date: December 01, 2008 12:27PM

Gecko 1.9.X series only can be tested with unofficial Hao's K-MeleonCCF versions 0.9.
Read this thread.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/01/2008 12:29PM by desga2.

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Re: Why Doesn't KM Use The New Gecko Engine?
Posted by: DasFox
Date: December 01, 2008 12:35PM

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desga2
Gecko 1.9.X series only can be tested with unofficial Hao's K-MeleonCCF versions 0.9.
Read this thread.

Ok, well I'm running 1.5.2RC and it's really nice, seems like maybe it's faster then 1.5.1

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Re: Why Doesn't KM Use The New Gecko Engine?
Posted by: DasFox
Date: December 01, 2008 12:36PM

Forgot to ask, what is this Hao's K-MeleonCCF version all about, and why can't KM use the latest Gecko engine?

THANKS

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Re: Why Doesn't KM Use The New Gecko Engine?
Posted by: Fred
Date: December 01, 2008 01:47PM

Gecko 1.8.1.18 is as safe as the 1.9 Gecko of Firefox 3.0.4
and is also still used by Firefox 2.0.0.18, which is still supported
by the Mozilla developers for a while.
Using Gecko 1.9 will need a new K-Meleon generation which is
not quite ready now, and it is used only in experimental
K-Meleon versions up to now. Hao's browser is one of these,
as well as some of my own experimental Linux/wine versions, which
I use only personally for the moment.

Fred

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Re: Why Doesn't KM Use The New Gecko Engine?
Posted by: DasFox
Date: December 01, 2008 01:59PM

I tried Hao's can't say I like it, maybe it's just the cosmetics, didn't like the Home page with all the websites, reminds me of that crap Google Chrome, and didn't like that I couldn't use the default KM skin.

Also it uses more memory then 1.5.1 and 1.5.2RC

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Re: Why Doesn't KM Use The New Gecko Engine?
Posted by: kevinnn
Date: December 01, 2008 04:30PM

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desga2
You must look again! smiling smiley
Help -> About K-Meleon

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About K-Meleon 1.5.2RC
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.18) Gecko/20081115 K-Meleon/1.5.2

i've found the reason. it's caused by installing km1.5.2 without uninstalling the prior version .

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Re: Why Doesn't KM Use The New Gecko Engine?
Posted by: desga2
Date: December 02, 2008 01:50AM

@ kevinnn:

- About your User Agent string problem:

Look again your image before post, you have set as Firefox 2 User Agent string, this settings spoofing your really User Agent by Firefox 2.0.0.16 with Gecko 1.8.1.16.
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In before image post
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080702 Firefox/2.0.0.16
tongue sticking out smiley Change this in Tools -> User Agent -> Default.

-About K-MeleonCCF:

You can change the Home page (this is set as speeddial by default).
You can change the skin by default for other skin or addapted default K-Meleon skin to work in K-MeleonCCF. But this need some of work with the skin and now K-MeleonCCF functions (some are differents because CCF use Lua macros instead K-Meleon macros).

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/02/2008 01:51AM by desga2.

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Re: Why Doesn't KM Use The New Gecko Engine?
Posted by: kevinnn
Date: December 02, 2008 07:54AM

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desga2
@ kevinnn:

- About your User Agent string problem:

Look again your image before post, you have set as Firefox 2 User Agent string, this settings spoofing your really User Agent by Firefox 2.0.0.16 with Gecko 1.8.1.16.
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In before image post
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080702 Firefox/2.0.0.16
tongue sticking out smiley Change this in Tools -> User Agent -> Default.

Indeed,user-agent checking effects the display of " aboout k-meleon",but the display about Gecko version are the same.
pls see the images below:


these're screen-captures of re-installing km1.5.2 after uninstalling the prior version of km. i think it may be caused by the remain after install without uninstalling the prior version .

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Re: Why Doesn't KM Use The New Gecko Engine?
Posted by: noob
Date: December 04, 2008 12:05PM

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desga2
Are you tried the last 1.5.2 RC?
This include last Gecko engine version 1.8.1.18.
Download K-Meleon 1.5.2RC.

Why is K-Meleon 1.5.2RC not listed on:
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/download.php or
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=14285 ?

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Re: Why Doesn't KM Use The New Gecko Engine?
Posted by: JujuLand
Date: December 05, 2008 12:48AM

Because it's a release candidate.

A+


Mozilla/5.0 (x11; U; Linux x86_64; fr-FR; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Ubuntu/12.04 K-Meleon/76.0

Web: http://jujuland.pagesperso-orange.fr/
Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr


Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc



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Re: Why Doesn't KM Use The New Gecko Engine?
Posted by: desga2
Date: December 05, 2008 02:46AM


This is a good question:

1) In K-Meleon Web Home and K-Meleon Download, there is a section for developement release like this 1.5.2RC:

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K-Meleon Web
Latest Development Release

None available at this time.

2) In K-Meleon Sourceforge project page also there is a section for development versions:

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K-Meleon Sourceforge project
k-meleon-dev
Latest 1.5.0RC Notes (2008-07-18 09:28)
K-Meleon1.5.0RCen-US.7z Mirror 4938724 340 i386 .zip
K-Meleon1.5.0RCen-US.exe Mirror 5630321 679 i386 .exe (32-bit Windows)
1.5Beta2 Notes (2008-05-29 17:31)
K-Meleon1.5.0b2en-US.7z Mirror 4927824 493 i386 .zip
K-Meleon1.5.0b2en-US.exe Mirror 5629420 3503 i386 .exe (32-bit Windows)
1.5Beta Notes (2008-04-08 17:30)
K-Meleon1.5.0beta.7z Mirror 4853740 542 i386 .zip
K-Meleon1.5.0beta.exe Mirror 5540465 2660 i386 .exe (32-bit Windows)
1.5a2 Notes (2008-02-11 21:59)

P.D.: I think that this 1.5.2RC is a special development version to be tested for K-Meleon forum users. smiling smiley

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/05/2008 02:49AM by desga2.

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Re: Why Doesn't KM Use The New Gecko Engine?
Posted by: Arrow
Date: December 05, 2008 08:39AM

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DasFox
I tried Hao's can't say I like it, maybe it's just the cosmetics, didn't like the Home page with all the websites, reminds me of that crap Google Chrome, and didn't like that I couldn't use the default KM skin.

Also it uses more memory then 1.5.1 and 1.5.2RC

Home page/speed dial originated with Opera and then was copied by a firefox addon, maxthon and other browsers.

ccfme has a very small footprint and is very fast, check out the threads - I don't experience high memory usage on a p4 or a p3

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