When I visit YouTube with KM1.5.2 or Opera I get the following message.

"Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player."

YouTube works fine with IE 6.

JS is not disabled and AB+ is desabled on YouTube.

I downloaded and installed the latest Flash player 10.0.22.87 and the latest java 6.0.120.4. But the same problem persists.

Anybody have any idea what the problem is?

Charlie

~~If it ain't broke, why screw it up?~~

Charlie, java is a different thing than javascript. Anyway, click on Edit-Preferences and right above K-Meleon plugins, you should see Javascript. Click on it and make sure that it is enabled.

Then, type in about: plugins in the url bar to see whether "Shockwave Flash" is actually installed for you.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/06/2009 11:44PM by Terry.

You might have noscript installed/enabled (things like this are why I refuse to bother with noscript. It's nice in theory, but it practice there are so many sites which require js, that it's just not worth the trouble of adding them all to the whitelist).

To check for flash, go here: http://browserspy.dk/flash.php
To check for javascript, go here: http://browserspy.dk/javascript.php

Browserspy is a very useful for checking many different things with your browser.

----
"People who live in glass houses ....should close the friggin curtains!"

YouTube work fine for me with the latest Flash player 10.0.22.87 and with previous Flash version 10.0.12.36.

K-Meleon in Spanish



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/07/2009 01:16PM by desga2.

At Preferences > javascript all boxes including "Enable JacaScript" are checked.

I do not have noscript installed.

I just installed Flash version 10.0.22.87 to replace 10.0.12.36. The problem occurs with both versions.

@ [browserspy.dk]
Flash JavaScripting support
No, or unable to detect

@ [browserspy.dk]
Generic JavaScript support Yes
Support for no script tag Yes
JavaScript build Not supported or unable to detect the info...
JavaScript defer support Not supported
JavaScript version 1.1 support Supported
JavaScript version 1.2 support Supported
JavaScript version 1.3 support Supported
JavaScript version 1.4 support Supported
JavaScript version 1.5 support Supported
JavaScript version 1.6 support Supported
JavaScript version 1.7 support Supported
JavaScript version 1.8 support Not supported
JavaScript version 1.9 support Not supported
JavaScript version 2.0 support Not supported
Data tainting support No or unable to detect...
Encoded JScript support No or unable to detect...
JScript support No or unable to detect...
External JavaScript support Yes

Here is a link to the Internet Option > Manage Add-ons:
Add-ons

Charlie

~~If it ain't broke, why screw it up?~~

Are you tried to change User Sgent string to Firefox 2?

K-Meleon in Spanish

If your problem is only with youtube, you
can watch the videos without javascript,
using the macro Only_video from the macros library, here :

http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/wiki/KmmOnlyVideo

It is safer anyhow, because flash videos of unknown
provenience can always contain malware scripts, that
could be executed, if javascript is enabled to play flash.
Copy and paste the macro into Notepad, save as Only_video.kmm
and put the file into the macros folder. This will
give you an entry in the right cliok context menu for links,
to open the youtube flash video in a new window without
javascript. Note that the link has to be a text link, it
won't work on links in images as it is, so right click
on the text link, not on the image.

PS : Did you try my macro proposition for your other
problem with the radio streams, here ?

http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?1,89700

This would also work without javascript.

Fred

@ Fred

Only_video macro works great.

Since installing 1.5.2 I also cannot post images to to any forums. i.e. when I try to post [***img]http://www.imagebam.com/image/65099d28896922/[/img***] the image does not post. PLease excuse the *'s they are only to show the example.
I can not post images on any forums any where.
Do you think the javascript problem may be to blame?

Charlie

~~If it ain't broke, why screw it up?~~

Imagebam needs working javascript for uploads.

Try Imageshack, there javascript is not needed.

Fred

Quote
Fred
Imagebam needs working javascript for uploads.

Try Imageshack, there javascript is not needed.

Fred

I sometimes use Imageshack, also Photobucket. Sometimes I like using Imagebam because it permits uploading images up to 3MB in size, places no limit on number of uploads and maintains uploaded images for ever (or so they say, must be one hell of a server farm.) Also, some pages at my online banking require javascript.

Charlie

~~If it ain't broke, why screw it up?~~

It is very strange that javascript does not work for you
in K-Meleon and also not in Opera, as you reported.
It could be that your Windows system is damaged.
Go to browser spy with Internet Explorer after enabling scripting,
and test there, if javascript is still not detected.
If scripting does not work in IE, I would presume that
Windows would have to be reinstalled after backing up
your data files.
I would also, before considering a reinstall, check the
computer for viruses and other malware.

Another possibility would be to start a Linux Live CD
and go into the internet with it, to check how javascript works.
A Linux Live CD will not touch your installed Windows,
because it runs completely in ram.
In your case, I would advise for example the new Knoppix 6 in the
small CD version, which is booting very fast into a
text version for people with visual problems.
In the text menu, press 9 to get a command prompt.
and write there
startx
and press the Enter button, to start the normal GUI surface.
Firefox 3 is installed, as far as I remember, under the name
of Iceweasel.
Click on that in the Start button menu, or open a console
terminal and write
iceweasel
and push the Enter button, to start Firefox.
As you try the Linux Live CD, I would also at the occasion
have a look at the other programs, that are already included
by default, as OpenOffice, media players etc.
You could also use K-Meleon, if wine would have been installed
from the repository.
Media players would possibly need installing non-free codecs from
the repository, if they should not be already included in Knoppix.
Knoppix is now based on Debian (they do not include non-free codecs
out of the box), but it is possible, that Knoppix has the codecs
included in the CD already. Installing the codecs is not difficult.
You can download Knoppix 6.0 from here :

http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/knoppix/knoppix-cd/KNOPPIX_V6.0-ADRIANE_V1.1CD-2009-01-27-EN.iso

The download is fast and would take about 25 minutes.
You can do other work at the same time.

Then put an empty CD into the drive, and open a burning program
as Nero or similar and burn the live CD.
Do not simply copy your downloaded .iso file to the CD.
This would not work for a boot CD.
Look in the menu of Nero, or what you have, for a menu entry
like "Burn an iso file" or similar.
This would open a dialog box, where you can search for the .iso.
Follow then the instructions, that you burning program gives you
to burn the bootable CD.
When the CD is burned, leave it in the drive and shutdown
the computer.
Restart the computer and the first screen should tell you
the key to press to enter the Boot Menu.
Very often the key is F12, but this can be different for
your computer.
Press this announced key to enter the boot menu.
If it brought up windows too fast , try a restart,
to press the key for the boot menu.
Once you are in the boot menu, select the cdrom as
your boot device. moving the arrow key, and press Enter.
Knoppix would then boot automatically into the text mode,
and you could continue as described before.
This would also be a good opportunity to see what Linux
is as an operating system, without any danger for your
Windows installation.

Regards

Fred

Some Firewalls can block JavaScript from browsers.
Check your firewall configuration.

@ Fred:
I like install Knoppix in my next computer system, are you tried the last version 6.0? What is your opinion about this distro?

K-Meleon in Spanish



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/10/2009 09:00PM by desga2.

@ desga2

The Knoppix 6.0 CD is an extremely fast booting full live
system. It includes the most important necessary programs.
More programs can be installed from the included repositories
from the web.
Version 6.0 is now based mainly on the new Debian Lenny
and can use the Debian repositories and the thousands of
programs that are stored there.

Nevertheless, if used as an installed system I would wait
for the big DVD version Knoppix 6.1, which should be
available for download a while after the CEBIT exposition in Hannover
has closed its doors. It was first distributed at the exposition.
It contains a wide range of software and a preconfigured
installer.

If you can't wait for the downloadable .iso-file, the KnoppixDVD
should already be included inside the german computer
magazine c't , number 6/2009, which should already or
very soon be available also in Spain.
As I read lately, they "forgot" to include the DVD for
the edition delivered to foreign countries, and may have delayed
delivery, to correct this.
I got my magazine with the DVD included yesterday, but I
don't know how it is in other countries.
They would anyhow send you the DVD for free, if it should
be missing, as I heard.

Taking Debian as a base improves in my opinion the usability
of Knoppix as an installed version, while at the other
hand, some recovery tools for system reconstruction have
not been included anymore, as I hear, which could make it less
useful for such tasks now.

A Knoppix 6.0 CD review I found here :

http://www.linux-magazine.com/online/blogs/productivity_sauce_dmitri_s_open_source_blend_of_productive_computing/knoppix_6_0_perfect_distro_also_for_netbooks

I would try the live system first before installing,
because hardware detection and correct screen resolution
may vary depending on your specific computer and monitor.
It is also advisable to test the recognition of your soundcard
and ethernet card.
Very old and very new hardware can always be a problem in Linux,
while all the others are mostly supported, because the
drivers are included.

I have not tested an installed Knoppix up to now but my
impression is very good, and it boots v e r y fast.
Of course there are several good Linux distros, as
Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Sidux (Debian-sid based), Debian 5 Lenny,
PCLinos (rpm-Repos with apt), Mandriva (rpm-Repos), Suse (rpm-Repos),
Fedora (rpm-Repos), Mepis, Slackware ,only to name some of the
mostly used, but it is always advisable to test them
as Live CDs before installing, to make sure the hardware
fits.

Regards

Fred

@ desga2: No, I will give the FF UA a try. If javascript works in the FF UA will that mean js is actually working?



@ Fred: Thank you for such a detailed reply. I have enabled js in IE from Internet Options > Advanced. This is the report from testing at browserspy:
Test Result
Generic JavaScript support Yes
Support for no script tag Yes
JavaScript build 5.7.18066
JavaScript defer support Supported
JavaScript version 1.1 support Supported
JavaScript version 1.2 support Supported
JavaScript version 1.3 support Supported
JavaScript version 1.4 support Not supported
JavaScript version 1.5 support Not supported
JavaScript version 1.6 support Not supported
JavaScript version 1.7 support Not supported
JavaScript version 1.8 support Not supported
JavaScript version 1.9 support Not supported
JavaScript version 2.0 support Not supported
Data tainting support No or unable to detect...
Encoded JScript support Yes
JScript support Yes
External JavaScript support Yes

js seems to work in IE. I cannot seem to get any images in KM or Opera that require js. Even in the KM Forum reply form all of the options are in text rather than the usual images.


I cannot download Knoppix 6 as I am on dialup. This weekend I will be able to d/l it at a friends who has RR. I do have Knoppix 4.0.2 on CD. I rarely us it as it is very slow, but that was when I had 256MB RAM, but now I have 1GB so maybe it will be faster now. Another reason I do not use it is I could never connect to the Internet, though It seems I was setting up the connection properly. I guess I am so used to working with Windows that anything else seems totally alien to me. BTW, will burning the file as an .ISO require a DVD burner/player? This machine does not have DVD. I do have a DVD burner/player on an old Gateway machine that I use for office work, I can install it in this machine but I don't know if it is compatabe with this machine.

As far as I know, this machine has been clean of viruses, etc. until this morning when I downloaded a Miranda IM program at http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?1,90041 When I scanned the downloaded file with Avast, Avast indicated the file was infected with
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\New Folder\capplus.7z\tools\capplus\capplus.exe

Win32:Trojan-gen {Other}

Virus/Worm'

090309-0, 03/09/2009

But some Google refernces seem to indicate that it may be a false positive.

It seemed the only way to clean the infection was to do a virus scan from cmd prompt, delete the infection and clean all temp and BU files. Then many of the KM setting had to be reset.

Charlie

~~If it ain't broke, why screw it up?~~

I did not know that you're on dial-up.
This makes Knoppix less suitable, because there is no menu entry for
a program to connect by PPP, the connection is automatic only for DHCP,
and configuring it manually is far too difficult for a Linux novice.

If your modem is an external one, not an internal so-called winmodem,
you could try the little distro DSL-n-01RC4 , which still supports
configuring dial-up modems with a little application. It is a bit bigger than
the ordinary DSL, but still only 95 Mb of size, and can be updated with recent browsers
and other software that you can burn later to the CD in a second burn, because
there is a lot of space unused.
Finding drivers for an internal winmodem could be difficult, at least this used to
be the case, when I had dial-up only, but other external modems have a good chance
to work.

Download here :

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/damnsmall/dsl-n/current/dsl-n-01RC4.iso

You can burn with a CD burner, but not with a simple player of course.

Burn the iso as described in my earlier post, and try to boot with the bootstring

dsl alsa noapic

In the menu System/Net Setup you will find the menu entry "dial-up PPP".
A dialog box will appear. Select Config. Select Create a connection.
Move to OK using the tab key and Enter.
Give the connection the name of your provider.
Move to OK using the tab key and Enter.
Select Dynamic using the arrow down and mark this using the space bar.
(Except if your DNS would be static).
Move to OK using the tab key and Enter.
Select PAP or CHAP, depending on your providers login protocol.
Try one , and if it does not work later the other one.
Move to OK using the tab key and Enter.
Enter your login name.
Move to OK using the tab key and Enter.
Enter your password.
Move to OK using the tab key and Enter.
Leave the speed at 115000 as it is.
Move to OK using the tab key and Enter.
Leave : Tone as it is.
Move to OK using the tab key and Enter.
Enter your dial-up number.
Move to OK using the tab key and Enter.
Select Yes to search for your modem automatically.
Select an option using the arrow down and mark this using the space bar.
If it is proves to be wrong, try later an other option.
Go on till the survey of the configuration.
Save it moving the arrow down to Finished and Enter.

Enter the connection name (provider) into the dialog box we had at
the beginning, and select Dial.
The program tries to connect, and if your modem blinks or makes
conection noises, it seems to have been found.
If the connection fails nevertheless, go back to configuring the other
protocol (PAP or CHAP, sometimes Chat).
Repeat trying to connect several times, because sometimes the provider
responds slowly. After browsing select HangUp.

The Firefox version may be a bit dated, but you are not root, and no harddisk
is mounted, you work in ram only.
A newer version can be burned on CD later, if the distro works ok.

I hope that you succeed. Good luck.

Fred

@ Fred.

Thank you for responding. I just tried again to connect with Knoppix 4. The only problem seems to be finding the modem. I think I will try again using instructions you indicated for distro.ibiblio, just to see it that works.

I will try downloading distro.ibiblio this weeking on a RR connection. distro.ibiblio is nearly a GB, I hope I can figure out how to divide the download on 2 CD's, or should I use DVD? I have never used DVD but I assume it is much like burning to CD's. If I have to use DVD I hope my old DVD drive from Gateway is compatible with this newer Emachines computer. I forget what burner my friend has, except that it seems to be very good. I use CDBurnerXP which seems to be pretty good for freeware.

Actually the only reason I got the Knoppix, then Ubuntu was to be able to access the internet should this XP OS stop working, as nearly everything I do these days is over the Internet. I could use my old Gateway with ME, but the ME machine likes to crash sometimes while connected to the enternet, often durring financial transactions.:mad: I also tried Ubuntu 8.10 Desktop Edition but for some reason my system crashed. I even tried Ubuntu again but again my system crashed. It was supposed to install within Windows but for some reason it just didn't work out. I don't know if I was doing something wrong or if it just isn't compatible with my system.

BTW, I again downloaded and installed Version 6 Update 12 from http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp and it seemed to install with no problems. Then I went to browserspy but the results where the same as previously and the installation doesn't work. I don't beleive I had this problem with KM1.5.1en-US, I think I will use KM1.5.1en-US again and try to see if there may be an intallation or settings problem between the too that may be to blame. I hope I will be able to keep usung 1.5.2 as it is a bit faster than KM1.5.1en-US.

Charlie

~~If it ain't broke, why screw it up?~~

No need for a DVD for DSL-n from distro.ibiblio.org.
It is in the contrary very small for a Linux distro,
as DSL is the abbreviation of Damnsmalllinux,
DSL-n is a bit bigger than the usual DSL, but still
only 95 Megabytes, this means 0.095 Gigabytes, and
this means only about 14 percent of a CD are used,
and the rest remains free for a second burning to
add programs of your choice.

If you want to try an additional K-Meleon version
for testing javascript, and have no extensions
that you want to use, why not try my NoXul-version
K-Meleon-NX-18119 which has the actual gecko engine
as well. You can unzip it into a fresh folder, and
it will not interfere with your existing K-Meleon,
having its own profile inside its own folder.
Download here:

http://one.xthost.info/eichhein/K-Meleon-NX-18119.zip

You can enable or disable javascript with a
toolbar button.

Fred

Thanks Fred. The decimal in 97612.00KB was hard to see. I will try your NoXul-version K-Meleon-NX-18119.

I tried KM1.5.1en-US earlier today but the browserspy test results were the same as with 1.5.2 Perhaps I will need to reinstall the OS as you mentioned earlier.

I tried the media macro. I only have WMP 9 installed but the macro works great with streams that use the WMP, in fact some radio streams only need to buffer once.:O With streams that use other players such as MP3, the stream only plays in WMP until the play/seek indicator gets to the end. I guess I need to get more players in addition to WMP. Now I am really baffled because I have no idea why I was suddenly able insert the play/seek indicator image.:s I wish I could get the Forum code links to appear as images, i.e. Help information, Insert smiley, etc.

Edit: I tried listenlive.eu and www.usliveradio.com. They work great with the macro and I like the music at these sites, way too cool:cool:. You made my day.

Charlie

~~If it ain't broke, why screw it up?~~



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/12/2009 02:23AM by caktus.

Quote
Fred
why not try my NoXul-version
K-Meleon-NX-18119
Fred

Fred, I am very impressed with the page renering speed of K-Meleon-NX-18119. But I am having a problem with Favorites that perhaps you can help me with. When I click on Favorites on the menu bar I get an error that "K-Meleon Web Browser has encountered a problem and needs close bla, bla, bla...." and the browser crashes and I have to End Task to close the browser. In Preferences, Favorites is enabled But when I Configure Favorites, the Favorites Directory setting "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Favorites" does not save. Also the Favorites Directory Browse button does not work.

Also, the browser security test at (http://bcheck.scanit.be) passed it on all the tests it ran. But the Acid test only gave it a 52 out of a hundred, the same as 1.5.2 and 1.5.2's security seems solid as a rock. It gave Opera 10 Preview 98 out of a hundred. But personally I thing the Acid test may be a bit flakey.

I like the convenience of the javascript button. Also, with 18119 the tool bar in forums show the tool buttons rather than the text links.

I tried 1.8.1.21 thinking it may be better than 1.8.1.19, but 1.8.1.19 seems much faster then
1.8.1.21.

Charlie

~~If it ain't broke, why screw it up?~~

To enable favourites in KM-NX-18121, go to
Edut/Preferences/Plugins and enable them, clicking
on one of the red rectangles, turning it to green.
Restart the browser, and Favourites should appear in
the menu bar.
If not, the file mfc71.dll would be missing, but this
should only be the case in Linux, while the file
should be there in Windows by default.
For Linux, it could be downladed from the internet.
So you do have javascript working again with this version ?
The acid test is not so important, the main thing is
to have a secure, updated version and I would advise you
to prefer KM-NX-18121, even if it should be a bit slower
than KM-NX-18119, although I cannot find much of a
difference here.

Fred

@ Fred

All plugins except Netscape Bookmarks and Opera Hotlist are green and have a checkmark.

I have MFC71.dll in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Works and mfc71.dll in C:\WINDOWS\system32. I do not know if the type case makes a difference.

I have the following commented out to remove the Favorites button from the Toolbar.

# %ifplugin bookmarks|favorites|hotlist
# Bookmarks {
# %ifplugin bookmarks
# bookmarks(Edit)|&Bookmarks
# Edit Bookmarks. Right-click to view Bookmarks list.
# %else
# %ifplugin favorites
# favorites(Edit)|F&avorites
# Edit Favorites. Right-click to view Favorites list.
# %else
# %ifplugin hotlist
# hotlist(Edit)|H&otlist
# Edit Hotlist. Right-click to view the Hotlist.
# %endif
# %endif
# %endif
# mainbarhot.bmp[5]
# mainbarcold.bmp[5]
# mainbarcold.bmp[5]
# }
%endif

I will try 18121 again.

EDIT: I am having the same porblem with 18121. I can successfully add to Favorites but the same problem persists.

Charlie

~~If it ain't broke, why screw it up?~~



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/23/2009 04:34PM by caktus.

Quote
caktus
But the Acid test only gave it a 52 out of a hundred, the same as 1.5.2 and 1.5.2's security seems solid as a rock.

It gave Opera 10 Preview 98 out of a hundred.


But personally I thing the Acid test may be a bit flakey.

1.) cannot be different - it is GRE specific the 1.5.x all use GRE 1.8.x.
Except Hao's that use 1.9 and is an K-M 1.6 really

2.) True; Will AFAIK give the same to GRE 1.9 and some other new engines.

3.) flakey = Academic? - which real page uses the feature?


What matters are needed security updates (sometimes )



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/23/2009 04:44PM by guenter.

@ caktus:

You forget comment the last line in your "toolbars.cfg" code:

# %endif

K-Meleon in Spanish

This problem is strange.
I have opened KM-NX-18121 in Windows, because I do not
use Favorites in Linux, but everything seems to be ok.
Have you tried to enable the Favorites button in the
Toolbar, to check if the problem remains ?
Right-clicking on the button would open your Favorites
to click on.
Could be that your Windows installation is corrupted,
if nothing helps. Is the problem existing for you in all
versions of K-Meleon ?

Fred

@ desga

Commenting out %endif makes no difference.


@ Fred

Left clicking on the Favorites button opens Fav's in Explorer.

Right clicking on the Fav's button produces the same error.

Charlie

~~If it ain't broke, why screw it up?~~

I have this problem too. I don't have further info jet.

EDIT: problem solved, Flash player wasn't installed. This sounds a bit stupid, but I think I deinstalled the flash-player before for a reason (becouse it didn't work?). I runned the flashplayer installer and now it works.

ehh.. I'm sorry for not being of any help... (can't delete this useless post of me ether).

did you try the error/javascript console on both K-meleon and Opera?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/24/2009 11:28AM by datiswous.

datiswous, You can ask moderator to remove.
But IMHO Your post helps others since it tells where to look for problems.

Charlie, maybe try with unaltered skin - to rule that source out.

@ desga2

I tried a new install of 18121 with default settings. Bookmarks seems to work properly. Also importing Fav's to Bookmarks seems to work properly. But when I enable the Fav's plugin and disable the Boosmarks plugin, the same error occurs. With both the plugins enabled I get an error that "bcheck.scanit.be could not be found. Please check the name and try again." upon opening the browser and bookmarks still works properly and the Favorites still produces the error.

I guess I could just use Bookmarks with Fav's Imported. I have never used Bookmarks but I assume it is much like using Fav's or Sessions. I am pretty sure the OS is not corrupted as all other software seems to be working fine and I have no hardware problems. I wonder if it may have something to do with my particular system settings.

EDIT: And now about the javascript problem. With 1.5.2 the forum post dialog window shows the features i.e. Smilies, Quote, Insert Image, etc. are text links instead of the icons. With 18121 the links are icons with javascript enabled and with javascript disabled I get two text links "BBcode help" and "Smileys help." So I guess I do have a javascript problem with 1.5.2. I find it very difficult to understand which javascript version is the truely latest and which js updates to keep installed as some sites tell me I do not have js installed and offer a link to download the latest version of js, but the versions always seem to be the same.

Another 18121 problem I just noticed is when I go to Tools > Advanced Preferences > All Confiuration Prefs I get an error that "The file config cannot be found. Please check the location and try again."

Charlie

~~If it ain't broke, why screw it up?~~



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/24/2009 08:43PM by caktus.

The fact that "All Configuration Prefs" does not
work is normal in this version.
In the original 1.x version the macro opens
About:config , calling it up by Xul.
As this is a No-Xul version, there is no Xul
present, which could open an About:config ,
there is even no page About:config included in
this No-Xul version, so it can also not be
called up in the URL bar.
The menu entry for "All Configuration Prefs"
could be taken out, but I did not notice that,
and it is also not causing troubles.

Fred