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Browsers?
Posted by: eDOC786
Date: May 20, 2009 10:49PM

Hi there,

Using windows what other browsers would you smart people have on your machines, besides IE?

Thanks!

Doc.



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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: JamesD
Date: May 21, 2009 12:33AM

I am too lazy to take IE off my computer. My only browser in use is K-Meleon. I have 1.1.6 for testing and 1.5.2 and 1.5.3 for general use. I have found no problems with 1.5.3 so I will likely remove 1.5.2 soon.

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: Paul
Date: May 21, 2009 12:43AM

I use K-Meleon as my main browser, I have IE7 which I try not to use because of it's inherent security risks.

For a 2nd browser I use SWare Iron, it's based on Google chrome technology, I find this to be light on resources also. smiling smiley

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: eDOC786
Date: May 21, 2009 12:51AM

Thanks for sharing your practical tested views!

Doc.

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: eDOC786
Date: May 21, 2009 01:20AM

KM with K black skin becomes heavy?

Doc.

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: eDOC786
Date: May 21, 2009 01:25AM

What are accelerators?

Why doesnt the memory usage or Cache size icon move?

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: eDOC786
Date: May 21, 2009 01:28AM

Do I need to master Linux to use KM in windows.......coz I have a linux geeker patient who could customize KM to my needs??

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: reeko124
Date: May 21, 2009 01:45AM

I don't understand that. K-Meleon is Windows based not Linux based.

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: MrWoo
Date: May 21, 2009 02:42AM

I was die-hard Opera user for a very long time. I used Kmeleon as a backup if a site did not display correctly. After I felt Opera became a bit bloated I switched to KM full time. Maybe 2 years ago now. I have FF and IE available, but rarely use them. KM seems so light and simple now that the other browsers quite frankly all seem bloated. Just my opinion I suppose, as they have a much larger user base.

MrWoo

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: Davep
Date: May 21, 2009 03:59AM

KmLite 1.1.2 updated to Gecko 1.8.1.21

I'll keep using KMLite as long as I can keep updating Gecko. Shame Al gave it up.

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: guenter
Date: May 21, 2009 07:27AM

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eDOC786
Do I need to master Linux to use KM in windows.......coz I have a linux geeker patient who could customize KM to my needs??

Read Fred's posts, he, alain and others swear that K-Meleon also makes a good constantly improving show on NIX under wine.

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Davep
KmLite 1.1.2 updated to Gecko 1.8.1.21
Shame Al gave it up.

A shame that he did not support the dev team - but tried to make a one man show.

p.s. frankly, all have private chores impossible to muster time´constantly.



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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: eDOC786
Date: May 21, 2009 08:14AM

Ok thanks for the explanation.

Doc.

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: foobarly
Date: May 21, 2009 01:02PM

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Paul
I use K-Meleon as my main browser, I have IE7 which I try not to use because of it's inherent security risks.

For a 2nd browser I use SWare Iron, it's based on Google chrome technology, I find this to be light on resources also. smiling smiley

Ditto, plus OperaTor (Portable Opera + Tor anonymizing proxy), The World Browser (portable IE shell), and Orca (latest gecko engine full blown browser) -- you can tell I like variety. tongue sticking out smiley

OperaTor: http://archetwist.com/opera/operator

The World Browser: http://www.ioage.com/en/

Orca: http://www.orcabrowser.com/

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: Terry
Date: May 21, 2009 03:33PM

Have been using SeaMonkey beta version 3.1b2 since I bought a Vista operating system. K-M gets along in Vista, but seemingly, not as happily as in XP. Still like K-M for some things, but this newer SeaMonkey works very smoothly.

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: Ed L.
Date: May 21, 2009 04:59PM

Hmm, I'm going to have to disagree about Opera being bloated, although it doesn't feel as light as K-Meleon. I use Opera for heavy duty browsing, such as adult sites, and sites with a lot of javascript (e.g. digg). Opera seems more stable, and I like its inbuilt session manager and tab preview features.

I also have Google Chrome installed, although that's more of a novelty. It's even faster at loading javascript than Opera (Slashdot is a breeze with Chrome), but it does feel bloated.

I have Firefox installed for visitors, since I locked down IE impossibly smiling smiley.

And I use K-Meleon for ordinary browsing. It's my most used application.

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: MrWoo
Date: May 22, 2009 12:29AM

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Ed L.
Hmm, I'm going to have to disagree about Opera being bloated, although it doesn't feel as light as K-Meleon.
I have had a few conversations on this topic.It is useful to define 'bloated'. Most times bloated is referred to as an over-fat slow hunk o junk, much like Nero has become the last few years, or adobe.

The bloated I think many, but certainly I, refer to is that is has all the blades of a swiss army knife built in, and I just want a jack knife. So bloated as in a 'Suite' instead of 'just a browser'. Over at wilders, I merrily concede to some users that it is not bloated for them, because they use a large majority of the components in it's 'suite', like email client etc.

Opera is certainly a fine browser. If they had a version that was just a browser without all the bells and whistles, I would probably still use it as my primary. Or, now what KM has become, maybe not. winking smiley

MrWoo.

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: eDOC786
Date: May 22, 2009 06:34AM

What browsers do you smart people keep for XP & Vista besides IE?

Doc.

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: guenter
Date: May 22, 2009 09:03AM

Not smart, no nerd, nor dev, but 57 y.o. user. Hope I may add some $ 0.01 too.

Depends IMHO what You want to do. & current development situation.
No browser is ideal for everything, for most jobs several good alternatives exist.

Iron (Google chrome code but not phoning home): Script heavy pages .
Firefox: many useful extensions (slow starter, surfing speed +/- = k-meleon).
Opera or SeaMonkey: / include mail, news. The later also homepage design.
Lunascape5: can use 3 of 4 Windows platform browsing engines to view pages (web design help).


Some real specialist browsers: Songbird: music, Balloon: geography, Fora-PR: translation, linguistic data.

IE: access to MS pages. I needed it to download my first real browser! grinning smiley

p.s. I started to use K-Meleon 2001, set as default 2003, after that I always have had other browsers installed for odd jobs. K-Meleon had minor glitches on my German Vista premium home.

Survived all OS: ME/2000/XP:home&pro/Vista/Win7B.
I even totally overcame the Vista problems! My solution I de-installed Vista.



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Re: Browsers?
Date: May 22, 2009 09:46AM

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guenter


I even totally overcame the Vista problems! My solution I de-installed Vista.


I guess we can all agree with ....Uninstalling Vista can cure a lot of problems


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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: Paul
Date: May 22, 2009 11:10AM

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guenter

IE: access to MS pages. I needed it to download my first real browser! grinning smiley

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Ahh, thank you guenter, that is a very valid point! IE does have a use tongue sticking out smiley

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Re: Browsers?
Date: May 22, 2009 11:27AM
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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: eDOC786
Date: May 23, 2009 12:06AM

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guenter
Not smart, no nerd, nor dev, but 57 y.o. user. Hope I may add some $ 0.01 too.

Depends IMHO what You want to do. & current development situation.
No browser is ideal for everything, for most jobs several good alternatives exist.

Iron (Google chrome code but not phoning home): Script heavy pages .
Firefox: many useful extensions (slow starter, surfing speed +/- = k-meleon).
Opera or SeaMonkey: / include mail, news. The later also homepage design.
Lunascape5: can use 3 of 4 Windows platform browsing engines to view pages (web design help).


Some real specialist browsers: Songbird: music, Balloon: geography, Fora-PR: translation, linguistic data.

IE: access to MS pages. I needed it to download my first real browser! grinning smiley

p.s. I started to use K-Meleon 2001, set as default 2003, after that I always have had other browsers installed for odd jobs. K-Meleon had minor glitches on my German Vista premium home.

Survived all OS: ME/2000/XP:home&pro/Vista/Win7B.
I even totally overcame the Vista problems! My solution I de-installed Vista.


Woh very versatile approach........

Does k-meleon works good with Vista as with XP?

Thanks.

Doc.

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: reeko124
Date: May 23, 2009 12:09AM

I had no problems with it in vista on my laptop. I could have used a different browser because I have more RAM and a faster cpu but I am not leaving KM just because I have those things.

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: eDOC786
Date: May 23, 2009 12:56AM

Me too have 4 gigs of ram & CPU 3.6 GHZ.

So K-meleon shall work fine with vista too on my notebook?

Reeko you spent a thousand bucks on Ext CS4 woh rich man..

Regards,

Doc.

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: reeko124
Date: May 23, 2009 01:05AM

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eDOC786
Me too have 4 gigs of ram & CPU 3.6 GHZ.

So K-meleon shall work fine with vista too on my notebook?

Reeko you spent a thousand bucks on Ext CS4 woh rich man..

Regards,


Used copy of CS2 and got it for under $50.

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: eDOC786
Date: May 23, 2009 01:46AM

Reeko since I just did a fresh install of Vista office 2007 & updates after a low level format..........

I have a few queries........

1. Can I install k-meleon on it?

2. Does k-meleon updates automatically?

Thanks!

Doc.

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: reeko124
Date: May 23, 2009 01:55AM

1. You should be able to.

2. I stuck with KM 1.5.0 for the longest time and it asked me to upgade it when it started sometimes. So you do get notified but updates are not automatic

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: eDOC786
Date: May 23, 2009 02:01AM

Thanks Reeko.

Updates are similar to windows update alerts....correct?

Doc.

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: reeko124
Date: May 23, 2009 02:04AM

you just get a popup when you first start k-meleon. it just got updated so it will be awhile until it happens again.

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Re: Browsers?
Posted by: guenter
Date: May 23, 2009 06:20AM

K-Meleon update plugin checks updates once a week. You can download if You want to update.

p.s. Most here AFAIK do not want semi-automatik updates like Firefox.
The plugin can be shut down.



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