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who can you trust?
Posted by: annie
Date: September 19, 2017 12:23AM

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/09/18/hackers-malware-pc-ccleaner/

I thought the product was reliable. I thought the download sites were reliable. Not a peep out of my anti-virus and anti-malware programs. Sigh.

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Re: who can you trust?
Posted by: JamesD
Date: September 19, 2017 02:02AM

Apparently not everyone. Confirmed:

https://www.cnet.com/news/hackers-hid-malicious-code-in-popular-ccleaner-software/#ftag=CAD590a51e

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Re: who can you trust?
Posted by: rodocop
Date: September 20, 2017 01:52AM

Never used neither recommended CCleaner.

Just because it not being as good tool as popular. Also using most popular softwares is frequently linked with higher risks.

Top softwares - top security vulnerabilities. This is the rule.


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Re: who can you trust?
Posted by: panzer
Date: September 21, 2017 02:37PM
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Re: who can you trust?
Posted by: callahan
Date: September 23, 2017 11:23PM

I was kind of shocked when I read this earlier but I decided sometime ago to quit updating CCleaner. I am using portable version 4.19.4867 and it is still as good as ever for my older ThinkPad ... maybe newer computers need the latest CCleaner version but anyone with an older CCleaner version should be OK ... if I am correct? ... before the hacking?



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 09/23/2017 11:28PM by callahan.

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Re: who can you trust?
Posted by: smallhagrid
Date: September 24, 2017 03:02AM

A very long time ago (in computer terms, certainly...) I realized that a full 99% of all 'updates' in the windows realm ONLY serve other's purposes - and not my own.

The s/w this thread is about falls directly into that category IMO.

In its older, portable version it suffices to clean up excess temp files & such which tend to gather in the systems of users who are not going to do their own file maintenance chores - and is quite good enough for such a simple chore.

OS 'updates' and 'upgrades' also fall into this category - which is why I stopped my own windows clock at XP.

There is a very simple, easy 'cure' for what I've come to call 'the updating virus':
Just....don't...do...it....anymore.
(Of course this entire scenario is very different for Linux users !!)

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Re: who can you trust?
Posted by: callahan
Date: September 24, 2017 04:57PM

smallhagrid ... that's what I was thinking about having the portable version installed and it also being an older version, I should be good to go or anybody else with the same thought ... should be free of any problems.

I always try to find a 'portable' version of any program I try or use. I hate to install anything but sometimes you have to go that route.

Before I decided to go with the older version of CCleaner ... I did have newer versions on my computer, as they were released, but I really saw very little difference in speed between 'old and new' ... so I'm happy with the version I am using.



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Re: who can you trust?
Posted by: Yogi
Date: September 24, 2017 04:57PM

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annie
Not a peep out of my anti-virus and anti-malware programs. Sigh.

For detection an anti-virus needs definitions for the respective malware.
Heuristics are not reliable and prone to false positives.

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Re: who can you trust?
Posted by: Yogi
Date: September 24, 2017 05:23PM

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smallhagrid
A very long time ago (in computer terms, certainly...) I realized that a full 99% of all 'updates' in the windows realm ONLY serve other's purposes - and not my own.

99%?
I wouldn't exchange my Win7 with Win96. smiling smiley
There are relatively rare cases when I prefer to keep the old version of a software instead of the new one. Even in such cases I'll have to test sometimes the new release to see if upgrading makes sense.
BTW, my upgrade cycle for OS (Windows) -> Win98 - W2K - Win7.

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