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Don't wait ... it's really easy
You can first boot on a live cd to try ...
Try Xubuntu, really nice ...
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/15/2017 08:40AM by JujuLand.
Yeah, the next time I have a free day or two I might. Would it use less RAM than Win XP? I also have PS Elements, which maybe I would need WINE for?? All new to me...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2017 08:30PM by JujuLand.
For sure, Xubuntu doesn't need more ram than XP, what is not sure for Ubuntu (I don't like Unity which needs more ram)
What is PS ? Photoshop ?
If yes, have a look here:
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-photoshop-alternatives-can-run-linux/
or on this site:
https://www.quo.ra.com/How-do-I-run-Photoshop-actions-in-GIMP-on-Linux
Note: remove the dot between quo and ra
I add it because the forum rejects this word ???
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Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2017 08:31PM by JujuLand.
Thank you yes it's Photoshop Elements. It came bundled with my scanner and has most of the PS filters that I would use. It doesn't have auto-blur correction like the newest photoshop has. But I find that the auto color / auto contrast filters are especially good.
I tried GIMP and enjoyed it but am not sure if I can import the PS Elements filters that I like. I will certainly look into it with Xubuntu/Wine. Also Xubuntu will have to run my Canon scanner... another issue to resolve, I guess.
---edited- changed ubuntu to Xubuntu... just saw that and looked at the site. Thanks.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2017 08:31PM by JujuLand.
There is no problem with printers and scanner.
Some are completly reconized by linux like HP.
Some need complementary drivers, like Epson or Canon.
I have more problems with Lexmarks.
I haven't been able to make it work for an old Dell printer.
You can download linux canon drivers here:
http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/canon-drivers-for-ubuntu-and-linux-mint/
http://www.canon-europe.com/support/business-product-support/
Here are pages which are related to canon drivers (in french)
https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/tutoriel/installer_imprimante_canon
https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/liste_imprimantes_canon
And don't forget to have a look to these users forums which are efficient:
https://ubuntuforums.org
http://askubuntu.com
https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/ (in french)
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Wow thank you so much. It's an HP printer and Canon scanner, so hopefuly I'll be able to match up that particular Canon.
I really appreciate all the info and links. When I give it a shot I'll come back here as my point of departure!
The computer in question is in the basement. Quite cold right now as we're going thru unusually cold winter weather here. So I'll wait till things warm up.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2017 08:32PM by JujuLand.
What is the reference of your scanner ?
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9000F really nice one. Does slides!
ANyhow, I am stoked as they say. I'm in the basement doing some laundry... still cold but what the heck. I've got my old computer running and am looking into doing Xubuntu from a flash drive instal. I don't want to waste a CD.
I'll probably do a parallel install if I can. And then if I like it, do it all over again on a formatted HD.
I also want to try out the included office tools.
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Edit - A little later - So I tried it on my laptop (tryout not instal) because I use a Tenda wireless USB adapter on the basement desktop, and that looks like a problem. Also, my particular scanner might not be compatible (I searched). So my laptop will be my guinea pig. I tried a dual instal but got the jitters when I got to the part about partitions. I didn't go any further.
In the past I have created free space and new partitions with win 7 (or was it win 10 ?). Anyhow.. will have to look into it! Thanks for mentioning this. I'm going to enjoy figuring it out.
I really like the fresh graphics of xubuntu. And the layout seems very logical and straightforward.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2017 08:32PM by JujuLand.
Linux 'Simple Scan' seems not to be able to find the Canon 9000f scanner, but it seems that installing the linux canon drivers + a Canon proprietary program scangearmp works.
You can see this thread here (in french):
https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1693101
Another search where it seems to have solutions (in english) with 'Simple scan':
http://meshfields.de/install-canoscan-9000f-ubuntu-14-color-profiles/
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2261650
About install, I suggest you to replace the hd with another to install and test if it's ok, because the Windows system install on an hd is really ennoying since Vista, and since UEFI.
I suggest, if it's ok, to remove Windows and install Linux, it's easier and more secure ...
Even the default option is to install all in one partition, I prefer to choose personnalized, to remove all partition, and to create separated partitions.
Example for a 250Go HD 2 Go RAM:
system : ext4 50Go / primary sda1
swap : swap 4 Go primary sda2
user : ext4 196 Go home primary sda3
That solution has the advantage when system partition is broken (rarelly) and reinstall is needed or when changing the build (not updating) not to have to preserve the home partition
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THANK YOU so much for the detailed information. I am just having fun with it. This is not my primary computer. EVerything is backed up, I have instal discs for Win XP (with all the Compaq factory bloatware) if need be. Before I totally convert this laptop I will just try a partition manager for Win XP. I have used this one in the past and found it good:
https://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
I am not so concerned about security because I have nothing of real value on this laptop and do not enter passwords for more critical sites. No shopping, no paid-for domains, etc.
So now I will try to shrink the main volume, partition the free space and install xubuntu. If I really like xubuntu, I will probably do another instal, replacing Win XP altogether. But for now, if I can get the best of both worlds and have some fun... that's great!
Again, thanks.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2017 08:33PM by JujuLand.
You don't need to clean the disk before (no need of partitionWizard), the install does it without problem.
If you choose to have home partitn separated as I tell, during the install you just need to delete the partitions and create the linux one (ext4).
That's all folks
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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2017 08:33PM by JujuLand.
I am using it now. really enjoying it. Got WiFi working and am learning the general logic. (new to me). Also have extended monitors as like Windows. I have very low RAM... the biggest problem... so am using Midori right now.
Next I have to increase the resolution of my extended VGA. I am stuck at 1024 x 768 right now.. :mad: Otherwise, lots of fun thanks for mentioning it. Total fresh instal. I plan to convert my other old computer too. It will be better. More RAM... :drool:
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2017 08:21PM by JujuLand.
(just adjusted the posting title)
PS: here's a handy list of ALL new postings, not widely known yet
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/addon.php?0,module=recent_messages
[Edit=JujuLand]
Thanks
Done
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/21/2017 09:35AM by JujuLand.
Don't forget people can always search...
Anyhow, I am trying to install this
google-chrome-stable_48.0.2564.116-1_i386.deb
in xubuntu 16.04.
I can't move (copy/paste) the file to /var/cache/apt/archives
and the Archive Manager gives me this message:
You do not have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "archives"
Any suggestions welcome.
p.s. I hope the "thread manager" approves of my asking on this thread!
Tsss... :cool: Sorry for the misunderstanding! You can of course post where you want, but since you didn't continue in the linux part with all your previous postings in it, but instead in the empty 3rd part, that looked like not finding the link. Could have been, happens very often that non-underlined links are not noticed.
As Firefox is to heavy for old computers, I use Opera. Just a problem with some websites with flashplayer.
With Ubuntu 12.04, Midori was not top.
Another which can be nice is Qpzilla, but I can't build the last version with 12.04 (needs QT 5.x not available for 12.04), and some problems occurs with modern websites with old version.
But you can always use K-Meleon, an nice browser :cool:
Just install wine and read Linux forum here ...
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2017 08:30PM by JujuLand.
K-Meleon under Wine is way better option for Linux than older browsers: light, compatible, fast.
Just brilliant.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/20/2017 07:55AM by rodocop.
Usability of KM would of course be an absolute killer requirement if I'd ever manage to switch to Linux. But no idea how compatible is it exactly?? For example there seem to be countless Linux versions around. Do Wine and KM run on all so perfectly? Also in sort of baby linux versions? Have a dim memory reading long ago that there were missing functions? As you can guess, my main interest is macrolanguage, incl. occasional javascript they need...
Just curious, just in case, some FAR day, perhaps... :cool:
Principally, the ennoying point is the 'print to pdf' function which doesn't work (the pdf created is empty) ... but using the preview function of JamesD will probably make the job, after some little modifications that I haven't yet had time to finish :s
Another minor point is the reset of zoom.
For other points, the solution I gave with km-open is satisfactory.
The only last point is the time to open K-Meleon, a liitle long, but it's probably for a great part due to my old processor, and the limited ram I have.
For Linux solutions, please refer to my post on K-Meleon Linux Forum ...
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Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/20/2017 01:14PM by JujuLand.
Thanks for the info. At any rate sounds not worse as my current system ;-)
Just don't put too much hope in macros to help with real pdf print bugs. Neither James nor I can do anything to "fix" bugs which happen by manual execution too. Typically our macros can only help to save a manual click or two by firing the same commands automatically, or by firing alternative workaround-commands automatically. But if those don't work manually either, macros are out of luck too.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/21/2017 06:20AM by siria.
Another good reason to leave Windows :drool:
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No need to copy in this folder ...
This folder is just used by the system updater to put the debs is about to install.
Installing manuall a deb is very simple.
Double-Clicking on a deb opens the Logithèque (don(t remember the english name) which ask you to install the packet.
Unfortunatally, this program uses Firefox, and sucks a little.
So, you have just to install a nice little program which works like a charm (gdebi)
To install it, in a terminal, just launch:
Note: To install a program or manage a protected folder, you must launch your program in sudo mode (Super user do). That's the reason of the error you got ...
After the gdebi install, in thunar:
After that, just double-clicking on a deb file opens gdebi-gtk (the graphic interfadce to gdebi), and allows to install, reinstall, or uninstall.
gdebi is gdebi (command line program) and gdebi-gtk (graphic program)
Another nice program for packets managment is synaptic
Install it like for gbebi:
The folder /var/cache/apt/archives contains all the packets installed after the initial install (from the cd or key), so it can takes a lot of place, and on a tricky hd it could become a problem, so it's important in this case to survey, from time to time, the avalaible place on the system partition (/) using this command:
and if needed to clean this folder for example like this :
For system upgrades, if needed debs can be installed again using apt-get, no imperative need to keep them on the computer.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/04/2017 10:11AM by JujuLand.
Thank you. I went to AskUbuntu and figured out most of this. But you have offered some more info that will come in handy. Appreciated.
I tested Xubuntu, Unbuntu, and Lubuntu. I found Lubuntu was fastest with my old PC. Even better, I discovered Puppy Slacko (which I am using now). It boots from USB so I can also use Win XP on my HD without the need for any partitions. Puppy Slacko seems fastest. But K-Meleon under Win XP is still the best browsing experience. I saw someone say something about Wine. I tried that too. Only about 1/2 programs loaded. Mostly light ones.
Does Wine slow down the overall OS speed? If not, i might try installing it on Puppy Slacko and see if i get can K-Meleon on Puppy. I am using Chrome right now. It's okay... but not quite as fast as KM, I think. Chrome has the microphone option which I like when I am lazy and do not feel like typing!
p.s. Interesting pics at your personal web site.
I'm migrating from Ubuntu 12.04 to Xubuntu 16.04 on a machine, and I'll probably do the same for my principal desktop.
I don't like too much Lubuntu, which is faster, but a little tricky, for my use.
You can install wine, it ought not to slow your os.
The only problem I found is that there is no 64 bits build, and wine needs a lot of 32 bits packets. If you use 32 bits linux build, it's not a great problem, but for 64 bits builds, you must install a lot of 32 bits libraries that you already have in 64 bits version.
You can try it without problem, it won't be difficult to remove it, if you don't like ... but no more K-Meleon
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All which isn't K-Meleon related.
Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
JujuLand
Date: January 07, 2017 08:16AM
Don't wait ... it's really easy
You can first boot on a live cd to try ...
Try Xubuntu, really nice ...
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Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
msea
Date: January 08, 2017 04:48AM
Quote
JujuLand
Don't wait ... it's really easy
You can first boot on a live cd to try ...
Try Xubuntu, really nice ...
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Yeah, the next time I have a free day or two I might. Would it use less RAM than Win XP? I also have PS Elements, which maybe I would need WINE for?? All new to me...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2017 08:30PM by JujuLand.
Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
JujuLand
Date: January 08, 2017 02:28PM
For sure, Xubuntu doesn't need more ram than XP, what is not sure for Ubuntu (I don't like Unity which needs more ram)
What is PS ? Photoshop ?
If yes, have a look here:
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-photoshop-alternatives-can-run-linux/
or on this site:
https://www.quo.ra.com/How-do-I-run-Photoshop-actions-in-GIMP-on-Linux
Note: remove the dot between quo and ra
I add it because the forum rejects this word ???
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Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc
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Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
msea
Date: January 08, 2017 02:42PM
Quote
JujuLand
For sure, Xubuntu doesn't need more ram than XP, what is not sure for Ubuntu (I don't like Unity which needs more ram)
What is PS ? Photoshop ?
If yes, have a look here:
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-photoshop-alternatives-can-run-linux/
or on this site:
https://www.quo.ra.com/How-do-I-run-Photoshop-actions-in-GIMP-on-Linux
Note: remove the dot between quo and ra
I add it because the forum rejects this word ???
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Thank you yes it's Photoshop Elements. It came bundled with my scanner and has most of the PS filters that I would use. It doesn't have auto-blur correction like the newest photoshop has. But I find that the auto color / auto contrast filters are especially good.
I tried GIMP and enjoyed it but am not sure if I can import the PS Elements filters that I like. I will certainly look into it with Xubuntu/Wine. Also Xubuntu will have to run my Canon scanner... another issue to resolve, I guess.
---edited- changed ubuntu to Xubuntu... just saw that and looked at the site. Thanks.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2017 08:31PM by JujuLand.
Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
JujuLand
Date: January 09, 2017 08:13AM
There is no problem with printers and scanner.
Some are completly reconized by linux like HP.
Some need complementary drivers, like Epson or Canon.
I have more problems with Lexmarks.
I haven't been able to make it work for an old Dell printer.
You can download linux canon drivers here:
http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/canon-drivers-for-ubuntu-and-linux-mint/
http://www.canon-europe.com/support/business-product-support/
Here are pages which are related to canon drivers (in french)
https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/tutoriel/installer_imprimante_canon
https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/liste_imprimantes_canon
And don't forget to have a look to these users forums which are efficient:
https://ubuntuforums.org
http://askubuntu.com
https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/ (in french)
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Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
msea
Date: January 09, 2017 02:37PM
Wow thank you so much. It's an HP printer and Canon scanner, so hopefuly I'll be able to match up that particular Canon.
I really appreciate all the info and links. When I give it a shot I'll come back here as my point of departure!
The computer in question is in the basement. Quite cold right now as we're going thru unusually cold winter weather here. So I'll wait till things warm up.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2017 08:32PM by JujuLand.
Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
JujuLand
Date: January 10, 2017 04:13PM
What is the reference of your scanner ?
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Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
msea
Date: January 13, 2017 03:39AM
9000F really nice one. Does slides!
ANyhow, I am stoked as they say. I'm in the basement doing some laundry... still cold but what the heck. I've got my old computer running and am looking into doing Xubuntu from a flash drive instal. I don't want to waste a CD.
I'll probably do a parallel install if I can. And then if I like it, do it all over again on a formatted HD.
I also want to try out the included office tools.
---
Edit - A little later - So I tried it on my laptop (tryout not instal) because I use a Tenda wireless USB adapter on the basement desktop, and that looks like a problem. Also, my particular scanner might not be compatible (I searched). So my laptop will be my guinea pig. I tried a dual instal but got the jitters when I got to the part about partitions. I didn't go any further.
In the past I have created free space and new partitions with win 7 (or was it win 10 ?). Anyhow.. will have to look into it! Thanks for mentioning this. I'm going to enjoy figuring it out.
I really like the fresh graphics of xubuntu. And the layout seems very logical and straightforward.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2017 08:32PM by JujuLand.
Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
JujuLand
Date: January 13, 2017 08:43AM
Linux 'Simple Scan' seems not to be able to find the Canon 9000f scanner, but it seems that installing the linux canon drivers + a Canon proprietary program scangearmp works.
You can see this thread here (in french):
https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1693101
Another search where it seems to have solutions (in english) with 'Simple scan':
http://meshfields.de/install-canoscan-9000f-ubuntu-14-color-profiles/
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2261650
About install, I suggest you to replace the hd with another to install and test if it's ok, because the Windows system install on an hd is really ennoying since Vista, and since UEFI.
I suggest, if it's ok, to remove Windows and install Linux, it's easier and more secure ...
Even the default option is to install all in one partition, I prefer to choose personnalized, to remove all partition, and to create separated partitions.
Example for a 250Go HD 2 Go RAM:
system : ext4 50Go / primary sda1
swap : swap 4 Go primary sda2
user : ext4 196 Go home primary sda3
That solution has the advantage when system partition is broken (rarelly) and reinstall is needed or when changing the build (not updating) not to have to preserve the home partition
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Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2017 08:32PM by JujuLand.
Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
msea
Date: January 13, 2017 02:24PM
Quote
JujuLand
Linux 'Simple Scan' seems not to be able to find the Canon 9000f scanner, but it seems that installing the linux canon drivers + a Canon proprietary program scangearmp works.
You can see this thread here (in french):
https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1693101
Another search where it seems to have solutions (in english) with 'Simple scan':
http://meshfields.de/install-canoscan-9000f-ubuntu-14-color-profiles/
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2261650
About install, I suggest you to replace the hd with another to install and test if it's ok, because the Windows system install on an hd is really ennoying since Vista, and since UEFI.
I suggest, if it's ok, to remove Windows and install Linux, it's easier and more secure ...
Even the default option is to install all in one partition, I prefer to choose personnalized, to remove all partition, and to create separated partitions.
Example for a 250Go HD 2 Go RAM:
system : ext4 50Go / primary sda1
swap : swap 4 Go primary sda2
user : ext4 196 Go home primary sda3
That solution has the advantage when system partition is broken (rarelly) and reinstall is needed or when changing the build (not updating) not to have to preserve the home partition
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THANK YOU so much for the detailed information. I am just having fun with it. This is not my primary computer. EVerything is backed up, I have instal discs for Win XP (with all the Compaq factory bloatware) if need be. Before I totally convert this laptop I will just try a partition manager for Win XP. I have used this one in the past and found it good:
https://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
I am not so concerned about security because I have nothing of real value on this laptop and do not enter passwords for more critical sites. No shopping, no paid-for domains, etc.
So now I will try to shrink the main volume, partition the free space and install xubuntu. If I really like xubuntu, I will probably do another instal, replacing Win XP altogether. But for now, if I can get the best of both worlds and have some fun... that's great!
Again, thanks.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2017 08:33PM by JujuLand.
Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
JujuLand
Date: January 14, 2017 07:14PM
You don't need to clean the disk before (no need of partitionWizard), the install does it without problem.
If you choose to have home partitn separated as I tell, during the install you just need to delete the partitions and create the linux one (ext4).
That's all folks
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Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr
Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2017 08:33PM by JujuLand.
Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
msea
Date: January 15, 2017 07:14AM
I am using it now. really enjoying it. Got WiFi working and am learning the general logic. (new to me). Also have extended monitors as like Windows. I have very low RAM... the biggest problem... so am using Midori right now.
Next I have to increase the resolution of my extended VGA. I am stuck at 1024 x 768 right now.. :mad: Otherwise, lots of fun thanks for mentioning it. Total fresh instal.
I plan to convert my other old computer too. It will be better. More RAM... :drool:Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2017 08:21PM by JujuLand.
Re: Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
siria
Date: January 17, 2017 10:58AM
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msea
Xubuntu recognizes my Tenda (Ralink) USB wifi and I'm very happy with it! Still quite a lot to figure out but I think I'm over the steepest part of the learning curve! Yay!
I was considering buying a chromebook for simple blogging, research. No need now! Ancient old Desktop is doing the trick. 1.5 gb ram and it's fine.
(just adjusted the posting title)
PS: here's a handy list of ALL new postings, not widely known yet
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/addon.php?0,module=recent_messages
[Edit=JujuLand]
Thanks
Done
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/21/2017 09:35AM by JujuLand.
Re: Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
msea
Date: January 17, 2017 03:42PM
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siria
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msea
Xubuntu recognizes my Tenda (Ralink) USB wifi and I'm very happy with it! Still quite a lot to figure out but I think I'm over the steepest part of the learning curve! Yay!
I was considering buying a chromebook for simple blogging, research. No need now! Ancient old Desktop is doing the trick. 1.5 gb ram and it's fine.
(just adjusted the posting title)
PS: here's a handy list of ALL new postings, not widely known yet
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/addon.php?0,module=recent_messages
Don't forget people can always search...
Anyhow, I am trying to install this
google-chrome-stable_48.0.2564.116-1_i386.deb
in xubuntu 16.04.
I can't move (copy/paste) the file to /var/cache/apt/archives
and the Archive Manager gives me this message:
You do not have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "archives"
Any suggestions welcome.
p.s. I hope the "thread manager" approves of my asking on this thread!
Re: Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
siria
Date: January 17, 2017 08:30PM
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msea
p.s. I hope the "thread manager" approves of my asking on this thread!
Tsss... :cool: Sorry for the misunderstanding! You can of course post where you want, but since you didn't continue in the linux part with all your previous postings in it, but instead in the empty 3rd part, that looked like not finding the link. Could have been, happens very often that non-underlined links are not noticed.
Re: Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
JujuLand
Date: January 19, 2017 08:28PM
As Firefox is to heavy for old computers, I use Opera. Just a problem with some websites with flashplayer.
With Ubuntu 12.04, Midori was not top.
Another which can be nice is Qpzilla, but I can't build the last version with 12.04 (needs QT 5.x not available for 12.04), and some problems occurs with modern websites with old version.
But you can always use K-Meleon, an nice browser :cool:
Just install wine and read Linux forum here ...
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Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr
Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2017 08:30PM by JujuLand.
Re: Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
rodocop
Date: January 20, 2017 07:54AM
K-Meleon under Wine is way better option for Linux than older browsers: light, compatible, fast.
Just brilliant.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/20/2017 07:55AM by rodocop.
Re: Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
siria
Date: January 20, 2017 11:05AM
Usability of KM would of course be an absolute killer requirement if I'd ever manage to switch to Linux. But no idea how compatible is it exactly?? For example there seem to be countless Linux versions around. Do Wine and KM run on all so perfectly? Also in sort of baby linux versions? Have a dim memory reading long ago that there were missing functions? As you can guess, my main interest is macrolanguage, incl. occasional javascript they need...
Just curious, just in case, some FAR day, perhaps... :cool:
Re: Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
JujuLand
Date: January 20, 2017 12:58PM
Principally, the ennoying point is the 'print to pdf' function which doesn't work (the pdf created is empty) ... but using the preview function of JamesD will probably make the job, after some little modifications that I haven't yet had time to finish :s
Another minor point is the reset of zoom.
For other points, the solution I gave with km-open is satisfactory.
The only last point is the time to open K-Meleon, a liitle long, but it's probably for a great part due to my old processor, and the limited ram I have.
For Linux solutions, please refer to my post on K-Meleon Linux Forum ...
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Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr
Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/20/2017 01:14PM by JujuLand.
Re: Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
siria
Date: January 21, 2017 06:18AM
Thanks for the info. At any rate sounds not worse as my current system ;-)
Just don't put too much hope in macros to help with real pdf print bugs. Neither James nor I can do anything to "fix" bugs which happen by manual execution too. Typically our macros can only help to save a manual click or two by firing the same commands automatically, or by firing alternative workaround-commands automatically. But if those don't work manually either, macros are out of luck too.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/21/2017 06:20AM by siria.
Re: Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
JujuLand
Date: January 21, 2017 09:26AM
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siria
Thanks for the info. At any rate sounds not worse as my current system ;-)
Another good reason to leave Windows :drool:
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/21/2017 09:26AM by JujuLand.
Re: Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
JujuLand
Date: January 21, 2017 10:56AM
Quote
msea
I can't move (copy/paste) the file to /var/cache/apt/archives
and the Archive Manager gives me this message:
You do not have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "archives"
Any suggestions welcome.
No need to copy in this folder ...
This folder is just used by the system updater to put the debs is about to install.
Installing manuall a deb is very simple.
Double-Clicking on a deb opens the Logithèque (don(t remember the english name) which ask you to install the packet.
Unfortunatally, this program uses Firefox, and sucks a little.
So, you have just to install a nice little program which works like a charm (gdebi)
To install it, in a terminal, just launch:
sudo apt-get install gdebi
Note: To install a program or manage a protected folder, you must launch your program in sudo mode (Super user do). That's the reason of the error you got ...
After the gdebi install, in thunar:
right-click on the deb, => Properties => Open with => choose GDebi
After that, just double-clicking on a deb file opens gdebi-gtk (the graphic interfadce to gdebi), and allows to install, reinstall, or uninstall.
gdebi is gdebi (command line program) and gdebi-gtk (graphic program)
Another nice program for packets managment is synaptic
Install it like for gbebi:
sudo apt-get install synaptic
The folder /var/cache/apt/archives contains all the packets installed after the initial install (from the cd or key), so it can takes a lot of place, and on a tricky hd it could become a problem, so it's important in this case to survey, from time to time, the avalaible place on the system partition (/) using this command:
df
and if needed to clean this folder for example like this :
cd /var/cache/apt/archives sudo thunar . (to do it graphically) or sudo rm * (to do it with a command line)The manual install using gdebi, dpkg, or other programs don't put the deb in archive. So, in this case, I recommand to keep the debs in a folder in you personnal folder, for example in a folder named 'Personal_debs').
For system upgrades, if needed debs can be installed again using apt-get, no imperative need to keep them on the computer.
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Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr
Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/04/2017 10:11AM by JujuLand.
Re: Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
msea
Date: February 01, 2017 06:19AM
Quote
JujuLand
Quote
msea
I can't move (copy/paste) the file to /var/cache/apt/archives
and the Archive Manager gives me this message:
You do not have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "archives"
Any suggestions welcome.
No need to copy in this folder ...
This folder is just used by the system updater to put the debs is about to install.
Installing manuall a deb is very simple.
Double-Clicking on a deb opens the Logithèque (don(t remember the english name) which ask you to install the packet.
Unfortunatally, this program uses Firefox, and sucks a little.
So, you have just to install a nice little program which works like a charm (gdebi)
To install it, in a terminal, just launch:
sudo apt-get install gdebi
Note: To install a program or manage a protected folder, you must launch your program in sudo mode (Super user do). That's the reason of the error you got ...
After the gdebi install, in thunar:
right-click on the deb, => Properties => Open with => choose GDebi
After that, just double-clicking on a deb file opens gdebi-gtk (the graphic interfadce to gdebi), and allows to install, reinstall, or uninstall.
gdebi is gdebi (command line program) and gdebi-gtk (graphic program)
Another nice program for packets managment is synaptic
Install it like for gbebi:
sudo apt-get install gdebi
The folder /var/cache/apt/archives contains all the packets installed after the initial install (from the cd or key), so it can takes a lot of place, and on a tricky hd it could become a problem, so it's important in this case to survey, from time to time, the avalaible place on the system partition (/) using this command:
df
and if needed to clean this folder for example like this :
cd /var/cache/apt/archives sudo thunar . (to do it graphically) or sudo rm * (to do it with a command line)The manual install using gdebi, dpkg, or other programs don't put the deb in archive. So, in this case, I recommand to keep the debs in a folder in you personnal folder, for example in a folder named 'Personal_debs').
For system upgrades, if needed debs can be installed again using apt-get, no imperative need to keep them on the computer.
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Thank you. I went to AskUbuntu and figured out most of this. But you have offered some more info that will come in handy. Appreciated.
I tested Xubuntu, Unbuntu, and Lubuntu. I found Lubuntu was fastest with my old PC. Even better, I discovered Puppy Slacko (which I am using now). It boots from USB so I can also use Win XP on my HD without the need for any partitions. Puppy Slacko seems fastest. But K-Meleon under Win XP is still the best browsing experience. I saw someone say something about Wine. I tried that too. Only about 1/2 programs loaded. Mostly light ones.
Does Wine slow down the overall OS speed? If not, i might try installing it on Puppy Slacko and see if i get can K-Meleon on Puppy. I am using Chrome right now. It's okay... but not quite as fast as KM, I think. Chrome has the microphone option which I like when I am lazy and do not feel like typing!
p.s. Interesting pics at your personal web site.
Re: Leave XP for Linux
Posted by:
JujuLand
Date: February 07, 2017 05:21PM
I'm migrating from Ubuntu 12.04 to Xubuntu 16.04 on a machine, and I'll probably do the same for my principal desktop.
I don't like too much Lubuntu, which is faster, but a little tricky, for my use.
You can install wine, it ought not to slow your os.
The only problem I found is that there is no 64 bits build, and wine needs a lot of 32 bits packets. If you use 32 bits linux build, it's not a great problem, but for 64 bits builds, you must install a lot of 32 bits libraries that you already have in 64 bits version.
You can try it without problem, it won't be difficult to remove it, if you don't like ... but no more K-Meleon
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Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr
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