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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76 on Goanna 3.4.2 (Build 20180106)
Posted by: Yogi
Date: January 09, 2018 07:56PM

Copy the file to a place of your choice.
Rename the file, e.g. startupCache.8.little.zip.
Now you can open the file with the archiver of your choice and you can examine its content.

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76 on Goanna 3.4.2 (Build 20180106)
Posted by: J.G.
Date: January 10, 2018 05:34AM

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Yogi
Copy the file to a place of your choice.
Rename the file, e.g. startupCache.8.little.zip.
Now you can open the file with the archiver of your choice and you can examine its content.

Thanks, I didn't know this trick. smiling smiley

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Re: [TEST] KM76-Goanna 3.4.1 (Build 20171223)
Posted by: Yogi
Date: January 11, 2018 12:07AM

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Yogi
https://www.facebook.com/109236079477338/videos/484921468575462/

With KM-Goanna the site asks for Flash Player.
With other browsers video plays fine (HTML5) without any flash plugin.

facebook uses features heavily depending on browsers' user agent string.
palemoon people are mad on changing user agent override because of this.

for forcing facebook using html5 video player, add this in about:config
general.useragent.override.facebook.com = Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:99.9) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/99.9 (Pale Moon)

Late but finally I've found out why the HTML5 vid didn't play.
With LAV Filters it plays fine. I tested at that time without them since I'm on Win7 and thought there is no need for them.
(As for the UA, it doesn't need a site specific override if one uses the useragent.kmm & useragent.js.)

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Re: [TEST] KM76-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build 20180106)
Posted by: siria
Date: January 11, 2018 01:48AM

[_check_ omni links default-prefs] .
@roytam
Just a reminder for updating the link targets in kmeleon.js (/defaults/preferences/)
They are still pointing to the Firefox default sites, giving funny results like "Firefox 76" grinning smiley

pref "app.support.baseURL" =
https://support.mozilla.org/1/firefox/%VERSION%/%OS%/%LOCALE%/
Result => https://support.mozilla.org/1/firefox/76.0/"WINNT"/en-us/"

This pref is used by a dozen js/jsm files inside omni.ja, incl. the troubleshooting page (about;support).
It claims the link above were the "support page for K-Meleon", LOL

Also wondering, can the palemoon addons site be whitelisted too?
pref("xpinstall.whitelist.add", "addons.mozilla.org");

Probably more such links in about:config to be checked.

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Yogi
As for the UA, it doesn't need a site specific override if one uses the useragent.kmm & useragent.js.

Yes of course, a global toggle works just as well. The purpose of UA site exceptions is merely for convenience, not needing to remember which site needs what override exactly, each time. And next time, some weeks or months later, the user runs into the same prob all over again but has the fix forgotten again. Saves us some support time :cool:



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 01/14/2018 06:16PM by siria.

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Re: [TEST] KM76-Goanna 3.4.1 (Build 20171223)
Posted by: J.G.
Date: January 11, 2018 02:51AM

Why I can't open KMeleon 76RC2 and KMeleon Goanna 20180106 at the same time? :mad:

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Re: [TEST] KM76-Goanna 3.4.1 (Build 20171223)
Posted by: Yogi
Date: January 11, 2018 08:24AM

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siria

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Yogi
As for the UA, it doesn't need a site specific override if one uses the useragent.kmm & useragent.js.

Yes of course, a global toggle works just as well. The purpose of UA site exceptions is merely for convenience, not needing to remember which site needs what override exactly, each time. And next time, some weeks or months later, the user runs into the same prob all over again but has the fix forgotten again. Saves us some support time :cool:

Speaking of site specific UserAgents - how can the below link be useful to any ordinary K-Meleon user?
Site-specific USERAGENTS list by Moonchild, Palemoons dev

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Re: [TEST] KM76-Goanna 3.4.1 (Build 20171223)
Posted by: J.G.
Date: January 11, 2018 09:56AM

Is Goanna vulnerable to Meltdown and Spectre problems? :s

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Re: [TEST] KM76-Goanna 3.4.1 (Build 20171223)
Posted by: roytam1
Date: January 11, 2018 02:46PM

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J.G.
Is Goanna vulnerable to Meltdown and Spectre problems? :s

Goanna had increased the performance timer interval to 50us in my latest build.

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Re: [TEST] KM76-Goanna 3.4.1 (Build 20171223)
Posted by: siria
Date: January 11, 2018 09:32PM

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roytam1
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J.G.
Is Goanna vulnerable to Meltdown and Spectre problems? :s

Goanna had increased the performance timer interval to 50us in my latest build.

Sorry completely clueless here - if this helps reduce risks, can I add this setting to KM1.6 too, and which pref (?) name...?
And just general: can it help to fend that stuff off by blocking JS, as so many other threats?

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Re: [TEST] KM76-Goanna 3.4.1 (Build 20171223)
Posted by: rodocop
Date: January 12, 2018 12:46AM

AFAIK, it's the same fix made in FF57 to prevent Meltdown, but it has nothing to do with Spectre.

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Re: [TEST] KM76-Goanna 3.4.1 (Build 20171223)
Posted by: roytam1
Date: January 12, 2018 02:31AM

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siria
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roytam1
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J.G.
Is Goanna vulnerable to Meltdown and Spectre problems? :s

Goanna had increased the performance timer interval to 50us in my latest build.

Sorry completely clueless here - if this helps reduce risks, can I add this setting to KM1.6 too, and which pref (?) name...?
And just general: can it help to fend that stuff off by blocking JS, as so many other threats?

It is built-in config of javascript engine. If you want to change it, you have to rebuild Gecko engine.
https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/Pale-Moon/commit/9ac47db859eb13c2e85889281071d98f1e302099

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76 on Goanna 3.4.1 (Build 20171215)
Posted by: smallhagrid
Date: January 12, 2018 04:41AM

Wow.
A new build for the new year, and all the help in this very lengthy thread.

It has been weeks since I checked here so had no clue about any of it !!
And why ??
Email notification is turned on, but no emails seem to get sent.

Thanks here to those who have added good info for SP2 users like me.

I have in the past tried changing the kernel file to the SP3 version and got BSODs due to driver conflicts with the attendant headaches until I switched it back & repaired the damages inflicted by trying to get the drivers right for it.

Most of my gripes about all things SP3 related resolve to how it removes so much control from the user - and seems unstoppable when it chooses to update drivers, like it or not.

All the above being said - I would like to know if other diehard SP2 users here have made this change to the kernel file with ZERO troubles afterwards, please ??

Presumably if I did that, and changed the LAV DLL files, then the latest build will run for me and play videos, etc. OK, yes ??

I also agree that if it hasn't happened already - a separate thread for SP2 users would be very helpful.

Thanks.


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roytam1
Sorry, Goanna3 engine requires SP3 functions.

There is a package to manage such a change in semiauto way, prepared by hermes, but it addresses russian version of XP - https://getfile.dokpub.com/yandex/get/https://yadi.sk/d/8l-xV_aZksZau

Thanks to you and hermes. I am in the USA.
The above link has a zip file with two files: setup.inf and kernel32.dll.

Two questions for you and/or hermes:
(1) When you say "but it addresses russian version of XP", does it mean that the kernel32.dll in the zip is for russian version and I must use a different kernel32.dll (I do have access to XP3)?
(2) Does the setup.inf file need to be changed in any way

Thank you,

Especially for You, pulled original English file from original SP3: (~274 Kcool smiley
(direct link) https://getfile.dokpub.com/yandex/get/https://yadi.sk/d/UsH1_slC3QhfnU

In this file not a fundamental difference. There will be different messages table. But these messages are not a problem as they are service messages. Specially now checked: and Russian KERNEL32.DLL on English OS, and English file on Russian OS... doesn't matter. Works and so, and so. Only when installing in another language will receive a warning. To work is not affected.

But nevertheless, for You, file was prepared on required English language. The English version (of this set) you can put in any language (because in English text no one will be confuse).



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/12/2018 04:43AM by smallhagrid.

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build 20180106)
Posted by: siria
Date: January 12, 2018 09:35AM

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smallhagrid
Wow. A new build for the new year, and all the help in this very lengthy thread.

grinning smiley Yes, and even a whole subforum just for Goanna!
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/list.php?19

Yes sadly email-notifications are broken again.
Also for PM-notifications.

Fully agree about a separate thread for XP+SP2
This post of yours would be a great start. Just post it again to start a new thread, then the mods could delete it here in this one? Or just split it from this long one?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/12/2018 09:36AM by siria.

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build 20180106)
Posted by: hermes
Date: January 12, 2018 05:09PM

siria
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Fully agree about a separate thread for XP+SP2
This post of yours would be a great start. Just post it again to start a new thread, then the mods could delete it here in this one? Or just split it from this long one?

K-MELEON v.7x+ supports for Windows XP with SP2
Windows XP-SP2 + modern KM versions



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 01/12/2018 05:38PM by hermes.

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build 20180106)
Posted by: smallhagrid
Date: January 13, 2018 12:00AM

Thanks Folks !!!

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76 on Goanna 3.4.2 (Build 20180113)
Posted by: roytam1
Date: January 13, 2018 03:09PM

new build!
https://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/KM-Goanna-20180113.7z

Changelog:
Out-of-tree changes:
* update Goanna3 to git rev d74da289f..c3b23d899:
- Update HSTS preload list (0c7367ffa)
- Merge pull request #1572 from trav90/HSTS-preload-update (baf75ff58)
- Split border and caret width rounding. (c3b23d899)
* update locale files (es/ru/it/cn/de/fr) from http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?20,145068

! Notice: since partial rebuild of XUL engine, Goanna buildtime is not changed.

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76 on Goanna 3.4.2 (Build 20180113)
Posted by: hermes
Date: January 13, 2018 04:05PM

A bow of respect

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: siria
Date: January 13, 2018 05:56PM

Thanks for new build! smiling smiley


FOR ALL TRANSLATORS:

strongly recommend to download updated IT+DE from Forum again NOW, before continuing work with outdated versions from new Goanna-build again :cool:



(sig) New unofficial K-Meleon 76.4 (KMG76.4) available, in own subforum.
Based on Goanna engine, called 'test' builds forever but more stable as 75.1 acc. forum members. It's 1-2 generations ahead of predecessor KM76RC-2016
K-Meleon FAQ (link missing in forum sidebar)
Tips&Tricks - Learning new stuff every day
New to K-Meleon? What do you like? What not?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/13/2018 07:44PM by siria.

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: Yogi
Date: January 13, 2018 09:14PM

KM-Goanna doesn't remember active Proxy after restart [solved]

How to reproduce without connecting to the Internet:
* set up KM for two proxies - e.g. ProxyHome(1) and ProxyOffice(2)
* activate ProxyHome(1) and exit KM
* start KM and switch to ProxyOffice(2)
* exit KM
* start KM and instead of ProxyOffice(2), still ProxyHome(1) is active

(KM-Gecko works as expected.)

Edit:
A completely fresh new install solved the problem.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/14/2018 05:00PM by Yogi.

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I can't open KMeleon 76RC2 and KMeleon Goanna 20180106 at the same time?
Posted by: guenter
Date: January 14, 2018 12:03AM

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J.G.
Why I can't open KMeleon 76RC2 and KMeleon Goanna 20180106 at the same time? :mad:

You can. Go. Right click at destop link. Select properties. Example.

C:\KM-Goanna-20180113\KM-Goanna\k-meleon.exe -new

Then add parameter -new to path.

No two K-Meleons can open the same profile at the same time.

So for this each install needs an extra/separate profile!

Since we work with the equivalent of a portable install during tests - this is no problem.

Each test install has separtate profiles anyway.

The screenshot is missleading. My K-Meleon 76RC uses an ancient profile dating back to 74. Atually dating back from K-Meleon 1.5 times or earlier.

Below it is the newest test browser in default skin. BTW. Ikon missing. Top left.






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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: guenter
Date: January 14, 2018 12:25AM

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Thanks for new build! smiling smiley


FOR ALL TRANSLATORS:

strongly recommend to download updated IT+DE from Forum again NOW, before continuing work with outdated versions from new Goanna-build again :cool:

No real technical problems. All seems to work for me.
Thanks to roytam1 for the integration of the most recent locale updates.

All locales are sound. Minor updates of strings and spelling still pending for some.

NO more IMHO.

Problems with some locales had been grave. No time to look for details. Now we can. :cool:

about: preferences#search does not synchronize with K-Meleon search.
K-Meleon has a separate potentially more powerful search settup.

Break about: preferences#search?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/14/2018 12:33AM by guenter.

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: siria
Date: January 14, 2018 01:26AM

@guenter:
try about:permissions in french (just strings missing)
In DE I've just checked the about-pages and (hopefully) all menus. Found about 10 strings missing yet, showing up in other languages - most in italian! (Congrats to Niceeight for near perfect completeness smiling smiley) But we can discuss this further in the DE-thread.

@all, a tip!
We're often reporting broken or non-optimal things here, in this "very lengthy thread" (as smallhagrid put it so fittingly, LOL!). But almost all gets forgotten again immediately, because currently only engine-updates have top priority. Don't know if others are keeping lists of their reports, but for the rest of us here's a tip:

For future forum searches for such posts, which you want to check again later, use a special keyword! For my own posts, have already started awhile back with adding "HOWTO" for explanation postings, and will now add _check_ for bug-reports or improvement requests. Just as word, in beginning or end. The underscores make words "unique" for the search function, so you will only get hits where really the underscores are around that word too.
If it's in the first line, and followed by another word or some to quickly see what it's about, this little trick will hopefully be handy for precise search results. And optionally you can combine searches with author names, as usual.



(sig) New unofficial K-Meleon 76.4 (KMG76.4) available, in own subforum.
Based on Goanna engine, called 'test' builds forever but more stable as 75.1 acc. forum members. It's 1-2 generations ahead of predecessor KM76RC-2016
K-Meleon FAQ (link missing in forum sidebar)
Tips&Tricks - Learning new stuff every day
New to K-Meleon? What do you like? What not?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/14/2018 05:23PM by siria.

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: guenter
Date: January 14, 2018 02:16AM

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siria
@guenter:
try about:permissions in french (just strings missing)
In DE I've just checked the about-pages and (hopefully) all menus. Found about 10 strings missing yet, showing up in other languages - most in italian! (Congrats to Niceeight for near perfect completeness smiling smiley) But we can discuss this further in the DE-thread..

As I wrote. We have the technical problems solved - mostly.

Strings are no problem - but a question if assiduity (Beharlichkeit).

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Found about 10 strings missing yet,

Name them - or send fixed kml. I know there are missing strings.
But that is normal.

Unser dev ändert - dokumntiert aber nich aso doll. & Will nich meckern.
Froh - dass was passiert.

p.s technically best. Switch to Russian and back and look for untranslated strings.

Russian variant is very up to date - and the other letters show You that there is a problem or difference.

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76 on Goanna 3.4.2 (Build 20180113)
Posted by: Happy.KM.User
Date: January 14, 2018 03:50AM

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hermes
A bow of respect

I agree hermes and I'd like to take this opportunity to say thank you to roytam
and the team for all the hard work. I am enjoying the fruits of your labor.
Keep up the excellent work smiling smiley

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76 on Goanna 3.4.2 (Build 20180113)
Posted by: J.G.
Date: January 14, 2018 04:27AM

@roytam1 thank you very much for your amazing good and hard work!
@guenter thank you for your detailed how-to for two KM at same time!
@siria thanks for the advice about new locales of DE,IT

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A bow of respect

I agree hermes and I'd like to take this opportunity to say thank you to roytam
and the team for all the hard work. I am enjoying the fruits of your labor.
Keep up the excellent work smiling smiley

+1 Great words @happy.km.user! grinning smiley

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: J.G.
Date: January 14, 2018 08:23AM

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guenter
(...)
As I wrote. We have the technical problems solved - mostly.

Strings are no problem - but a question if assiduity (Beharlichkeit).
(...)

+100 I agree you completely. It has been a long and constructive work! smiling smiley

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: Niceeight
Date: January 14, 2018 10:29AM

Thank you roytam1 for this new update! You're doing a great job. For now I can not find any bugs, very good!

Hello!

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: siria
Date: January 14, 2018 11:39AM

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FOR ALL TRANSLATORS:

strongly recommend to download updated IT+DE from Forum again NOW, before continuing work with outdated versions from new Goanna-build again :cool:

+ES locale



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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: siria
Date: January 14, 2018 12:21PM

Looks like this is fixed now in build5 ?
Great! smiling smiley

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As soon as I add any custom file (kmm-macro, or useragent.js etc.), after the next startup the Prefsheets are partly broken.
And remain broken, until either startupCache is deleted manually or the files removed again sad smiley

F2 > GUI > tab 4 broken
F2 > Javascript > tab 2 broken


Interestingly, both broken tabs are called "Popup Windows"
But their content is different, one has 1 "chapter", the other 3.

just peanut, not sure if matters:
instead I was surprised to find a "cache" folder again in the profile, next to "cache2" folder. But only in one of 3 profiles, and can't figure out how to reproduce it, although I've customized nearly nothing. Just toggled adblock on/off, startup-window-size, window-title, ultratiny test macro added and renamed, menu-toolbar visible, the usual... and switched various locales languages...
That "cache" folder was created at the same time as the "Offline cache" folder, both 7 minutes after profile creation. What created the latter, have no idea either.



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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: siria
Date: January 14, 2018 12:43PM

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Date: December 05, 2017 08:29AM

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When non-english locale set, about:addons doesn't show addons info - just icons in list:

Yes there are 2 new strings are added in Goanna eninge:
<!ENTITY addon.nativeAddon "This add-on directly targets Pale Moon">
<!ENTITY addon.compatAddon "This add-on targets Mozilla Firefox and runs in compatibility mode">

I added them in locales\*\*.jar\mozapps\extensions\extensions.dtd (as English) and that page is working again. 7z archive updated.

Uh oh... just for my general understanding: If the en-US locale inside the OMNIs has missing strings, this does NOT break anything? So far I was relying that en-US must be 100% complete, or things would break in EN too... now confused again.



(sig) New unofficial K-Meleon 76.4 (KMG76.4) available, in own subforum.
Based on Goanna engine, called 'test' builds forever but more stable as 75.1 acc. forum members. It's 1-2 generations ahead of predecessor KM76RC-2016
K-Meleon FAQ (link missing in forum sidebar)
Tips&Tricks - Learning new stuff every day
New to K-Meleon? What do you like? What not?

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