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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: roytam1
Date: January 14, 2018 01:24PM

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siria
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roytam1
Date: December 05, 2017 08:29AM

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rodocop
When non-english locale set, about:addons doesn't show addons info - just icons in list:

Yes there are 2 new strings are added in Goanna eninge:
<!ENTITY addon.nativeAddon "This add-on directly targets Pale Moon">
<!ENTITY addon.compatAddon "This add-on targets Mozilla Firefox and runs in compatibility mode">

I added them in locales\*\*.jar\mozapps\extensions\extensions.dtd (as English) and that page is working again. 7z archive updated.

Uh oh... just for my general understanding: If the en-US locale inside the OMNIs has missing strings, this does NOT break anything? So far I was relying that en-US must be 100% complete, or things would break in EN too... now confused again.

Any missing DTD entries will cause parsing error.
If that is en-US, parsing error will be shown if that page opens.

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: Yogi
Date: January 14, 2018 05:04PM

This was solved by a completely new fresh install. smiling smiley

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: siria
Date: January 15, 2018 01:30AM

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roytam1
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siria
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roytam1
Date: December 05, 2017 08:29AM

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rodocop
When non-english locale set, about:addons doesn't show addons info - just icons in list:

Yes there are 2 new strings are added in Goanna eninge:
<!ENTITY addon.nativeAddon "This add-on directly targets Pale Moon">
<!ENTITY addon.compatAddon "This add-on targets Mozilla Firefox and runs in compatibility mode">
I added them in locales\*\*.jar\mozapps\extensions\extensions.dtd (as English) and that page is working again. 7z archive updated.

Uh oh... just for my general understanding: If the en-US locale inside the OMNIs has missing strings, this does NOT break anything? So far I was relying that en-US must be 100% complete, or things would break in EN too... now confused again.

Any missing DTD entries will cause parsing error.
If that is en-US, parsing error will be shown if that page opens.

Thanks for clarification! So the blue sentence was probably just a little misunderstanding (luckily) smiling smiley



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/15/2018 02:24AM by siria.

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: siria
Date: January 15, 2018 01:41AM

[_check_ BAB adblock.dll kplugin missing menus or any GUI?] .

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after adding adblock controls.7z into my binary, and enabling it, I can see it is some kind of working(some ads are removed)

Even if do not use macros from topic (for tests in clean assembly), if adblock module enabled in settings [F2], when browser start, and if in the profile folder exist adblock.txt (you can create it), all rules written inside it must be run.

I understand meanwhile the plugin was fixed and works fine now, but except for en/disabling it, just can't find any GUI for it? Not even anything in about:addons (being a kplugin). Am not asking for any tricks for own use, just on behalf of all clueless users out there ;-)

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: J.G.
Date: January 15, 2018 03:21AM

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Yogi
This was solved by a completely new fresh install. smiling smiley

You are right, and I think that fresh installs are highly recommended to discard new bugs, warnings or errors of any kind. I have decided to always perform clean installs with new non-migrated profiles, and then write protect the startupCache.4.little file inside 'startupcache' folder. All worked better for me after doing these actions. :s

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: J.G.
Date: January 15, 2018 06:48AM

One little question, I see that KMG20180113 useragent is still about K-Meleon/76.0, however, shouldn't it mention K-Meleon/77.0pre or similar? I meant that Firefox/52.9 is also mentioned but it becomes EOL on July 3rd 2018, so IMHO KMeleon 77 should be shown ASAP. I wonder why the delay to be shown. :s

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: siria
Date: January 15, 2018 06:46PM
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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: Yogi
Date: January 15, 2018 09:54PM

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siria
_check_
http://kmeleon.50webs.com/

Wonder if it makes sense to mention that imposter.

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: J.G.
Date: January 16, 2018 04:23AM

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siria
_check_
http://kmeleon.50webs.com/

According to the timeline on Sourceforge, the project was registered at 2009-04-24 and was abandoned at date 2010-02-01 with 38,971 downloaded times by now.The 3.4.1 reference is merely coincidence to Goanna 3.4.1, there was no Goanna engine with this numeration at year 2009. Nothing to be worried about imho. :s

- KM 77 RC1 should be released asap before some imposter do.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/16/2018 04:25AM by J.G..

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: Mala Okeh
Date: January 16, 2018 02:23PM

Me too I love the new k-meleon gonna builds. And up to yesterday I had no problems at all with what website whatsever.

This morning I wanted to subscribe to dropbox and to my great surprise I couldn't - the forms didn't appear at all (also not after a new install).

Has anyone else problems with www.dropbox.com or am I the only one? And if so, how can it be solved ?

Thx a lot

With much admiration for the whole goanna project

Mala Okeh

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: Yogi
Date: January 16, 2018 04:29PM

Try the below UserAgent.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:57.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/57.0"


EDIT:

It worked with the above UserAgent. After several testings it stopped working and I don't know why.
I deleted the profile folder in vain. I can't make it work again.

Maybe roytam1 or somebody else has a plausible explanation.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/16/2018 08:39PM by Yogi.

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: Yogi
Date: January 16, 2018 11:48PM

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If I add the below pref dropbox works.
user_pref("general.useragent.override.dropbox.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:3.4) Goanna/20170101 PaleMoon/27.6.2");
With
user_pref("general.useragent.override", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0");
it doesn't work. Nonetheless dropbox works fine with Firefox ESR which has exactly the same UserAgent.

@roytam1
Could you please explain this (strange at least for me) behaviour?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/16/2018 11:52PM by Yogi.

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: rodocop
Date: January 17, 2018 12:09AM

I think Dropbox checks not only UA-string but the engine itself as well...

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: Yogi
Date: January 17, 2018 01:43AM

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rodocop
I think Dropbox checks not only UA-string but the engine itself as well...

OK, mystery solved! smiling smiley
You're right, Dropbox seems that is indeed checking the engine.
As soon as I enter a lower version of Firefox Dropbox works.



Those of you who don't want to fiddle with the UserAgent for Dropbox.com, simply add the below line to your user.js file in your profile folder.

user_pref("general.useragent.override.dropbox.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:3.4) Goanna/20170101 K-Meleon/76.0");



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/17/2018 02:14AM by Yogi.

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: Mala Okeh
Date: January 17, 2018 08:34AM

Thx a lot everybody. Changing the useragent solved the problem. But there is another one now: I cannot download files that are in my folders. This was possible with the dorian builds.

Is there a solution for that?

Thx a lot for the good work and all the help

Mala

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: Yogi
Date: January 17, 2018 03:38PM

@Mala Okeh

Dorian's builds were based on Gecko which aren't affected by Dropbox.
Since I have no account there I can't test farther on.
However - what's exactly your operating system? (Help\About K-Meleon)
Make sure that the default UserAgent will be displayed.
Maybe tailoring the modified UserAgent to match your OS can help.

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: Mala Okeh
Date: January 18, 2018 09:08AM

My operating system is Windows 10 version 1709.

Useragent : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/3.4 Firefox/52.9 K-Meleon/76.0

And for the dropbox website the useragent you suggested.

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: Yogi
Date: January 18, 2018 11:25AM

@Mala Okeh

I asked you for the default UserAgent shown by K-Meleon.
If your OS is Win10 then the UA you posted above can't be the default one.
"Windows NT 6.2" stands for Win8 and not for Win10!

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: Mala Okeh
Date: January 18, 2018 01:29PM

Thx Yogi, I didn't know but that is what K-Meleon tells me.

The other browsers give me the right ones,
e.g. Firefox : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:57.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/57.0
e.g. Palemoon : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/3.4 Firefox/52.9 PaleMoon/27.6.0a1

Perhaps there is an explanation for that but I did a fresh install of K-Meleon ?!?

Mala

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: J.G.
Date: January 18, 2018 01:34PM

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Yogi
@Mala Okeh

I asked you for the default UserAgent shown by K-Meleon.
If your OS is Win10 then the UA you posted above can't be the default one.
"Windows NT 6.2" stands for Win8 and not for Win10!

@Mala Okeh is right, the default useragent for KMGoanna latest is NT 6.2.

I just override this by written new string at about.config:
Add new string general.useragent.override with the next content
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:57.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/57.0

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: Yogi
Date: January 18, 2018 02:53PM

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Mala Okeh
Thx Yogi, I didn't know but that is what K-Meleon tells me.

The other browsers give me the right ones,
e.g. Firefox : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:57.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/57.0
e.g. Palemoon : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/3.4 Firefox/52.9 PaleMoon/27.6.0a1

Perhaps there is an explanation for that but I did a fresh install of K-Meleon ?!?

Mala

Only explanation I can think of is that something is messed up with your K-Meleon. Maybe you didn't delete the old Profile before making a fresh install or whatever.
K-Meleon's default UserAgent should show the OS it's installed on - like any other browser on this planet.

You can try the following:
* exit K-Meleon
* open the user.js file from your profile folder
* replace the old pref with this one
user_pref("general.useragent.override.dropbox.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:3.4) Goanna/20170101 K-Meleon/76.0");
* save changes
* open the prefs.js file from your profile folder
* search for useragent and delete all preferences containing this string
* save changes

Now if you start K-Meleon, the default UserAgent should show your OS (NT 10.0), like other browsers as well.
You can now also check if Dropbox is working for you or still doesn't.
In case it doesn't, sorry but I'm out of ideas.

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: Mala Okeh
Date: January 18, 2018 03:02PM

Yogi, I tried what you suggested. But even with the new appropriate useragent the problem remains the same: I can sign in but not download any file, picture etc.

Can someone who has a dropbox-account perhaps check on that?

Thx in advance

Mala

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: J.G.
Date: January 18, 2018 03:40PM

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Yogi
(...)
Only explanation I can think of is that something is messed up with your K-Meleon. Maybe you didn't delete the old Profile before making a fresh install or whatever.
K-Meleon's default UserAgent should show the OS it's installed on - like any other browser on this planet.
(...)

Again, @Mala Okeh is right about NT 6.2, however maybe Dropbox needs some extra UA to work rightly. KMeleon Goanna 20180113 out of the box fresh install new and so forth:

Your user agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/3.4 Firefox/52.9 K-Meleon/76.0
Other HTTP headers
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, br
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5
Host: duckduckgo.com
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/3.4 Firefox/52.9 K-Meleon/76.0

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: Yogi
Date: January 18, 2018 08:44PM

@J.G.

Regardless of your UserAgent (default or overridden), visit this site with JavaScript enabled.
What does navigator.oscpu tell you?
What does it tell you if you click on "More info..."?

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: J.G.
Date: January 18, 2018 09:26PM

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Yogi
@J.G.

Regardless of your UserAgent (default or overridden), visit this site with JavaScript enabled.
What does navigator.oscpu tell you?
What does it tell you if you click on "More info..."?

@Yogi, here there are again the results from fresh KMG20180113,
new profile, all untouched from the website you requested;
that's why I wrote that @Mala Okeh was right.

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navigator.appName Netscape
navigator.appCodeName Mozilla
navigator.appVersion 5.0 (Windows)
navigator.appMinorVersion Property is not supported! navigator.appMinorVersion is not a string. It's a undefined
navigator.vendor
navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/3.4 Firefox/52.9 K-Meleon/76.0 . More info...
navigator.oscpu Windows NT 6.2; WOW64 . More info...
navigator.platform Win32
navigator.securityPolicy Property is not supported! navigator.securityPolicy is not a string. It's a undefined . More info...
navigator.onLine true . More info...
Info browser.name firefox
Info browser.version 52.9
Info layout.name gecko
Info layout.version 52.9
Info os.name win
Internet Explorer real version This only works in Microsoft Internet Explorer!
Operating System Microsoft Windows NT - More info...
---------------------------------------------------------------------
More info:
Operating System Microsoft Windows NT
OS detected via jQuery win
OS detected via platform Win32 - Windows 32bit
OS CPU detected via JavaScript Windows NT 6.2; WOW64
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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: Yogi
Date: January 18, 2018 09:39PM

@roytam1

Has Goanna hidden prefs for Windows 10 which:
* override oscpu queries to NT 6.2?
* override the default UserAgent to NT 6.2?

In case you wonder why I'm asking, see the posts above.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/18/2018 09:54PM by Yogi.

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: rodocop
Date: January 19, 2018 01:46AM

Well, finally I tested Dropbox and...

I wasn't able to save file in no one version of K-Meleon (no matter Gecko or Goanna).

Option to open file in app sometimes works, but saving - never.

Error console gives a number of errors (clickable image):



UPD. Even public links are not shown by default for unlogged users (it shows only preview image of shared file - not the file itself and dropbox's GUI (download buttons etc.)

If set pref security.csp.enable to false - it shows GUI and opens dialog but then gives the same errors like logged users are faced to.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2018 02:06AM by rodocop.

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: rodocop
Date: January 19, 2018 02:08AM

Dropbox made some changes in CSP (Content Security Policy) last weeks that led the site not to work now with K-Meleons (as well as PaleMoons as I can see).
[Basilisk (roytam's), Iceweasel and Firefox do work fine.]

We need some big help from roytam1 (and Dorian with kko? or who is that anonymous)



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2018 02:11AM by rodocop.

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: roytam1
Date: January 19, 2018 03:58AM

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rodocop
Well, finally I tested Dropbox and...

I wasn't able to save file in no one version of K-Meleon (no matter Gecko or Goanna).

Option to open file in app sometimes works, but saving - never.

Error console gives a number of errors (clickable image):



UPD. Even public links are not shown by default for unlogged users (it shows only preview image of shared file - not the file itself and dropbox's GUI (download buttons etc.)

If set pref security.csp.enable to false - it shows GUI and opens dialog but then gives the same errors like logged users are faced to.

So filepicker fails to initialize, I have to look for it later.

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Re: [TEST] KM-Goanna 3.4.2 (Build5 20180113)
Posted by: Yogi
Date: January 19, 2018 04:53PM

A last bump for this.

The question was not related to Dropbox but for understanding K-Meleon.
It's futile trying to offer help others if oneself lacks basic info...

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