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Also I know someone (developer name roytam1) who could possibly bring back XP and Vista support to Waterfox 56. This way you could remain true to your promise of a "legacy build".
This is the GitHub page of roytam1:
- https://github.com/roytam1
He has already done amazing work when it comes to reviving the K-Meleon project, and has successfully reintroduced XP support to Pale Moon. This impressive patch is testament of that:
- https://github.com/roytam1/kmeleon/commit/85cf10146fcb90b3a40ee5095cd4d19e4f41b58f
I think that he could be willing to do a big one time patch to Waterfox 56, bringing XP/Vista support back.
Shall I ask him for that on your behalf?
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Alex Kontos
Yes, please do contact him! That would be a huge assistance for sure.
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roytam1
If it make use of Rust, then there is no hope for XP/Vista.
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and thats why MCP people decide to fork mozilla-central-55.0a1 code(just right before the rust-requirement enforcement patch lands) into basilisk.
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If it make use of Rust, then there is no hope for XP/Vista.
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and thats why MCP people decide to fork mozilla-central-55.0a1 code(just right before the rust-requirement enforcement patch lands) into basilisk.
Could you elaborate, please? Of which "Rust-requirement enforcement patch" do you speak? Any related links? Also, how heavily does Firefox 56 make use of Rust, and could the components in question still be exchanged for the older ones?
Also, what does this mean for K-Meleon? I guess UXP by the Pale Moon team will be its only possible future then, as Mozilla will use Rust heavily in the future... That will make an eventual return of Gecko impossible, right?
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I got the Firefox 56 ships with the following Rust components:
- MP4 metadata parser: bug 1161350 (shipped for desktop in Firefox 48)
Why Rust? Parses untrusted input, replaces libstagefright, a 3rd-party library with a history of security vulnerabilities.
- Replace uconv with encoding-rs: bug 1261841 (shipped in Firefox 56)
Could those be redone/taken out?
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Also I know someone (developer name roytam1) who could possibly bring back XP and Vista support to Waterfox 56. This way you could remain true to your promise of a "legacy build".
This is the GitHub page of roytam1:
- https://github.com/roytam1
He has already done amazing work when it comes to reviving the K-Meleon project, and has successfully reintroduced XP support to Pale Moon. This impressive patch is testament of that:
- https://github.com/roytam1/kmeleon/commit/85cf10146fcb90b3a40ee5095cd4d19e4f41b58f
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Pale as the Moon
Also I know someone (developer name roytam1) who could possibly bring back XP and Vista support to Waterfox 56. This way you could remain true to your promise of a "legacy build".
This is the GitHub page of roytam1:
- https://github.com/roytam1
He has already done amazing work when it comes to reviving the K-Meleon project, and has successfully reintroduced XP support to Pale Moon. This impressive patch is testament of that:
- https://github.com/roytam1/kmeleon/commit/85cf10146fcb90b3a40ee5095cd4d19e4f41b58f
And just to be clear, in this commit, I just ported Dorian's mozilla.patch(which revives some old functions for K-Meleon use) to Goanna.
And for Pale Moon XP revive patch is done by Feodor2(maybe he is zzz528
in ru-board?) :
https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal/blob/master/RestoreXP.patch
and yes, porting this patch to basilisk is done by me.
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Pale as the Moon
Also I know someone (developer name roytam1) who could possibly bring back XP and Vista support to Waterfox 56. This way you could remain true to your promise of a "legacy build".
This is the GitHub page of roytam1:
- https://github.com/roytam1
He has already done amazing work when it comes to reviving the K-Meleon project, and has successfully reintroduced XP support to Pale Moon. This impressive patch is testament of that:
- https://github.com/roytam1/kmeleon/commit/85cf10146fcb90b3a40ee5095cd4d19e4f41b58f
And just to be clear, in this commit, I just ported Dorian's mozilla.patch(which revives some old functions for K-Meleon use) to Goanna.
And for Pale Moon XP revive patch is done by Feodor2(maybe he is zzz528
in ru-board?) :
https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal/blob/master/RestoreXP.patch
and yes, porting this patch to basilisk is done by me.
Then credit goes to the ones originally responsible of course. Although this does not diminish your own amazing work up unto that point of course.
Would it be possible to track down the major code parts acting as road blocks for XP and Vista support? Is that something you or another developer could do?
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With all due respect, I don't think keeping support for Windows XP (and Vista, for that matter) is a responsible decision nowadays. Microsoft dropped support for this OS in 2014 and it hasn't received any security updates ever since. Windows XP is one huge security concern and no browser or AV software is going to fix the inherent security issues of the OS. I wouldn't even dare going online with it. Every OS before Windows 7 (the oldest OS Microsoft currently supports) should be dropped as of now.
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@Pale as the Moon
Wonder what kind of games are you playing here?
One of your first posts you made after your apparition on these forums:
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With all due respect, I don't think keeping support for Windows XP (and Vista, for that matter) is a responsible decision nowadays. Microsoft dropped support for this OS in 2014 and it hasn't received any security updates ever since. Windows XP is one huge security concern and no browser or AV software is going to fix the inherent security issues of the OS. I wouldn't even dare going online with it. Every OS before Windows 7 (the oldest OS Microsoft currently supports) should be dropped as of now.
And now you are asking for Windows XP support in Waterfox?
One might wonder where are you trolling - over there or here now.
Nice one, MODERATOR. I didn't even realize moderators still exist here. As you may have noticed, your ban had no real effect on me. Creating a second account took me 2 minutes at most.Quote
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User Pale as the Moon banned for 2 weeks for multiple violations of community customs and netiquette
(agressive style of communication, numerous insults)
Next time ban will be final one.
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Believe it or not, I can clearly differentiate between my personal opinion and just asking a person for something on behalf of someone else.
By the way, nothing in the text you've quoted is factually wrong. XP is and remains insecure and no browser can fix that.
I am fed up with you, Yogi. You are behaving like a little shit having sabotaged my efforts to help K-Meleon, just like you do now when I try to help the Waterfox dev. I have not been trolling, but have really tried to propose suitable solutions in both cases, while you have not contributed anything of value.
Believe it or not: Goanna has been the only solution for the K-Meleon project anyway if XP / Vista support is still a criterion, because Mozilla now uses Rust extensively. Rust is a road block for XP support. So my proposal was the only way forward, and was a very good idea even suited for brain- and spineless people like you.
I've got enough of your sabotage, calling me a "troll". You have contributed absolutely nothing up unto this point. The only thing you are capable of is talking bullshit.
Turned out that my proposal was the way to go after a capable developer (roytam1) made it come true. Your contribution? Again: Absolutely nothing!
Please, Yogi, try to use the brain you hopefully hide under that alu hat for once and realize that I am trying to help both projects accordingly while you kept talking and talking having contributed nothing.
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MODERATOR
User Pale as the Moon banned for 2 weeks for multiple violations of community customs and netiquette (agressive style of communication, numerous insults) Next time ban will be final one.
Nice one, MODERATOR. I didn't even realize moderators still exist here. As you may have noticed, your ban had no real effect on me. Creating a second account took me 2 minutes at most.
Know that aggressive banning is not a nice form of communication, either. Especially when it is one-sided. Yogi has called me a troll out of nowhere, and wasn't banned. Care to explain the reason for this?
I was the attacked party, after all. I tried to ask for something on behalf of someone else and get attacked by him for this harmless request. He is the one causing unrest here. This was supposed to be a conversation between me and roytam1 (who has my greatest respect for the work he is doing here). Then Yogi comes in and accuses me out of nowhere.
If you ban me, then ban him, too. This one-sided action will lead you nowhere. I have a right to defend myself, and have the right to do so in the same tone that Yogi chose when he accused me.
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MODERATOR
PLEASE STOP. Do not force us to block you in really aggresive way. You are the first non-spamming user banned for at least 6 years. You make this happen, not Yogi or somebody else.
Your problem is about sense of measure. Think about it, please.
So just have a vacation. And let us too.
Anyway you shouldn't discuss this here. Good luck. SEE YOU IN 2018.