One more step
Please complete the security check to access o.rths.cf

LOL. And my old version cannot do Captcha. Guess I missed an update or two.

Back to the roots when I had to use another browser to download K-Meleon 0.6?

Or excluded for good - since my chrome knock off says:

This webpage is not available

ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH

But never mind.

p.s. Thx to all for giving me a browser since 0.6



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/15/2019 12:36PM by guenter.

@guenter

Not really it is clear about what problems there is a speech, always it is possible to use a mirror without any SSL: http://o.rthost.win/ (or with SSL https://o.rthost.win/).
Everything works even in very old versions of iE.
...
You say that you used chrome, here it is important to consider the policy of Google in imposing of work through SSL (otherwise the website is marked as potentially dangerous, but these are monopolistic manners of corporation).

P/S: the system of indication about PM does not work at a forum, you already over a year did not pay attention to the answer in PM.

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hermes
@guenter

Not really it is clear about what problems there is a speech, always it is possible to use a mirror without any SSL: http://o.rthost.win/ (or with SSL https://o.rthost.win/).
Everything works even in very old versions of iE.
...
You say that you used chrome, here it is important to consider the policy of Google in imposing of work through SSL (otherwise the website is marked as potentially dangerous, but these are monopolistic manners of corporation).

P/S: the system of indication about PM does not work at a forum, you already over a year did not pay attention to the answer in PM.

The trouble started today when several pages wanted to captcha.
Not only the link here. And my mostly used 20171223 never could do captcha.
With Capcha it does not even recognize a button click to start.

I do not have IE.

Yes I know US monopolies games and patronizing. Today, I took several hours to persuade Chrome Advance Version to use Yahoo.com US instead of de and they claiming that the passwords were not right. In fact all chrome versions freaked out on me today. They were trying to be smart and pressed me for my telefon nr. courtesy on NSA... or their advertisements partners or whatever.

Yes a year. I have other chores and also interests besides K-Meleon.
Even for extended periods of over a year.

I finally got KM76.1.1-Goanna-20190309 downloaded with a Firefox ESR52 (after Palemeon also freaked) and got it going now except for the addons that do not work and are not recognized. I will have some time at a later date - maybe I will find out what has changed.

Never mind and thank You for Your answer.

@guenter

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The trouble started today when several pages wanted to captcha.
Not only the link here. And my mostly used 20171223 never could do captcha.
With Capcha it does not even recognize a button click to start.

On old version, create pref dom.messageChannel.enabled as true and allowed (in cookie permissions) for www.gstatic.com and www.google.com (for session only, as example).

Or http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?3,147403,147407#msg-147407.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/15/2019 06:15PM by hermes.

New regular/weekly KM-Goanna release:
https://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/KM76.1.1-Goanna-20190316.7z

Changelog:

Out-of-tree changes:
* update Goanna3 to git 804907cdb..69004b612:
- import changes from rmottola/Arctic-Fox:
- fix errors done while applying Bug 986981 (16427a8f1)
- Bug 1112164 part 6 - RegisterSets: takeAny should take one register and all aliases of it. (3cb079535)
- Bug 1112164 part 7 - Add common architecture functions to query/convert a register type. (cfbcbb73a)
- Bug 1112164 part 8 - Use architecture specific SetSize. (8b1674c57)
- Bug 1112164 part 9 - PushRegsInMask no longer assumes that any FloatRegister is 8 bytes. (99c36de32)
- Bug 1112164 part 10 - Clean-up: Use SetType for register mask declarations. (8ae421beb)
- change pointer style (7a7cc47f5)
- Bug 1112164 part 11 - Add an union to declare how data can overlap in one register. (a26f7e54b)
- Bug 1112164 part 12 - Use RegisterDump size for bailout spills. (da7b4173d)
- Bug 1112164 part 13 - HandleRegisterDump operations should support all register type. (c0769d704)
- change pointer style (1a8cb363f)
- Bug 1112164 part 14 - Add types to x86/x64 float registers. (432d705ea)
- Bug 1112164 part 15 - x86/x64: Add register type in the register allocator spew. (ffc5c6f96)
- Bug 1112164 part 16 - Clean-up: Remove FloatRegister::GetSizeInBytes (33ba32a6b)
- Bug 1112164 part 17 - StupidAllocator: Fix issues with SIMD spill and aliased registers. (a5d381375)
- Bug 1112164 part 18 - PushRegsInMask: Do not spill SIMD register if there is no support. (64bc72591)
- Bug 1112164 part 19 - LSRA should spill aliased registers around call-sites. (46b535ed5)
- Bug 1138141 - x64: Add some padding after pushing an odd number of float32 registers. (addbbbd9a)
- Bug 1140801 - Don't invoke functions on non-ion platforms. (1994a93b4)
- Bug 867001 - IonMonkey: Infrastructure for aligning JIT'd loops. (26ef85278)
- update pointer styles for better applying patches (150d89b21)
- Bug 1131531 - Ion GetElement IC should handle dense element holes. (5ee27fdd8)
- Bug 1171777 - Make sure the index is nonnegative in GetElement IC with hole. (0a9bfcdf3)
- No Bug - Expand a comment with a more detailed explanation (d9a833b59)
- Bug 1127629 - Handle void in ExpressionDecompiler. (6e20c9df1)
- Bug 1135319 - Fix several javascript warnings when for mochitest-chrome app update tests and cleanup style. (d6cd770f2)
- Bug 1134021 - Use composed document when getting nsDOMWindowUtils from shadow DOM content. (b781a495e)
- Bug 1123111 - Fix a typo (605d59d61)
- Bug 1135745 - Disable the reserved-id-macro macro in security/pkix (d966a778b)
- Bug 1131424 - Report error message when failing to open ctypes library, (2e8b2f8e3)
- Bug 1134667 - Add crashtest for this heap-buffer-overflow bug. (b4e070714)
- Bug 1135141 - Make LAST_DITCH GC more robust (40e5bc53e)
- Bug 1135141 - Do not do background sweeping for zealous GCs to avoid fragmentation (4ee850204)
- adapt pointer style (23133d74d)
- Bug 1134754 - Skip compacting zones when there is little benefit (fbc9bec11) (69004b612)

* Notice: the changelog above may not always applicable to XULRunner code which K-Meleon uses.

A goanna3 source tree that has kmeleon adaption patch applied is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/tree/kmeleon76

roytam1 thank you!

@roytam1 Thanks!

@roytam1

The feature is noticed at expanded testing. It is not a error in pure form, but nevertheless it is quite unpleasant. About 3 years ago, the way for native start was found on XP SP2. And this way ideally worked until 2018-01-21.

I missed this moment as I use 2K and 2K3. On 2K3 this problem does not meet as a class, and 2K with an expanded kernel has no remarks and everything works.

Now even on the clean not modified XP SP2 it is possible to receive BSOD with the code 0xс000021a, after several starts.

Recorded the detailed video with demonstration of a problem in different options:
(direct link) http://getfile.dokpub.com/yandex/get/https://yadi.sk/d/vXLfJWRnJx0jBA (~522 K

If you have time look what can be made. On SP3 of it does not occur, but the system definitely should not fall out in BSOD on SP2.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/19/2019 02:36PM by hermes.

Funny, because this exact function call (GetLogicalProcessorInformation) from Process Explorer 16.xx was killing me this last weekend.

It hangs because the function is compiled towards XP SP3, as minimum requirement:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/api/sysinfoapi/nf-sysinfoapi-getlogicalprocessorinformation

@JohnHell

/* off topic

Long time, (about once a year) I make full copy of all Sysinternals tools. If it is necessary I have a full mirror of their website still when there source codes of many tools were laid out. As for Process Explorer, I consciously use earlier version for many reasons (and universality one of them).

*/ off topic

Returning to KM, if shortage of required function (how strongly required ?! considering that KM works at only one processor kernel, it is whims of new versions M$ VC rather) it can be compensated by substitution of dll (for XP SP2, as example).

But BSOD arises irrespective of DLL version (even if DLL from SP3). I.e. function is performed, there something else.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/19/2019 09:19PM by hermes.

Good evening. Maybe I'm not writing at all there. I am very worried about this browser. Development continues. I hope you do not give up the development.

To make sure the browser is still evolving. Thank you for your work!

Thank you so much for updates.

I do not have the technical capacity understand the changelog, so
perhaps someone could point out any major improvements each time
in layman's terms?

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hermes
@roytam1

The feature is noticed at expanded testing. It is not a error in pure form, but nevertheless it is quite unpleasant. About 3 years ago, the way for native start was found on XP SP2. And this way ideally worked until 2018-01-21.

I missed this moment as I use 2K and 2K3. On 2K3 this problem does not meet as a class, and 2K with an expanded kernel has no remarks and everything works.

Now even on the clean not modified XP SP2 it is possible to receive BSOD with the code 0xс000021a, after several starts.

Recorded the detailed video with demonstration of a problem in different options:
(direct link) http://getfile.dokpub.com/yandex/get/https://yadi.sk/d/vXLfJWRnJx0jBA (~522 K

If you have time look what can be made. On SP3 of it does not occur, but the system definitely should not fall out in BSOD on SP2.

you may check this out:
https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/blob/66bcca5a762c88141642bde42a3050d121f8e25d/toolkit/xre/WindowsCrtPatch.h

but it seems that it is not working anymore because of another issue:
https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/blob/66bcca5a762c88141642bde42a3050d121f8e25d/xulrunner/app/nsXULRunnerApp.cpp#L29



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/20/2019 06:56AM by roytam1.

@roytam1

Thanks for search direction. It was necessary to be played with debugger and analyzer of dump, but as a result everything turned out! KM works now for XP SP2 again (the code of browser is not required to be changed)! A necessary patch for OS and video I will upload a bit later (a little additional testing).

Thanks again!

The explaining video with demonstration of a problem and with solution:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?19,145119,148855#msg-148855
The reason of BSOD is caused by changes made to work by SideBySide.
...
The topic Windows XP-SP2 + modern KM versions is updated.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/20/2019 02:35PM by hermes.

Great job, folks!

Thank you both, roytam1 and hermes!

Mello,

most of fixes simply mean for users that they again are able to browse sites that lose compatibility with old engine.

For example: old builds (Goanna 3.4.2-based) cannot browse instagram.com recent days (many errors in Console), but new 3.4.4-based - do support Instagram in full.

But some scripting things aren't supported by Goanna 3.x at all - so we cannot use (in most of features) aliexpress.com as well as have some crucial problems with some other popular sites.

So our hopes are that roytam1 will succeed in building KM over Goanna 4 some day.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 03/21/2019 11:41AM by rodocop.

New regular/weekly KM-Goanna release:
https://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/KM76.1.1-Goanna-20190323.7z

Changelog:

Out-of-tree changes:
* update Goanna3 to git 69004b612..fcb2b3aa1:
- import changes from rmottola/Arctic-Fox:
- Bug 1135141 - Release relocated arenas immediately on last ditch GC (e5053c077)
- Bug 1135141 - Fix jsapi-test framework to not overwrite original global when createGlobal() fails (055caeee8) (d17844d0f)
- import changes from rmottola/Arctic-Fox:
- change pointer style (08ae3786b)
- Bug 1138538 - Display GC zeal help text in shell help message (6c25ae0a8)
- Bug 1135723 - Traverse layout properties instead of object group properties in makeNativeGroup, handle int32->double coercion in ensureDefiniteType, (e53d9bfe1)
- Bug 1135535 part 4 - Fix C4275 dll-interface warning and mark this warning as error in js/src on MSVC. (ed0660603)
- change pointer style (31d69f5d9)
- Bug 1135985 - Use typed members to implement pushMarkStack (42c197cbe)
- Bug 1137978 - Access an object's compartment and zone via its group, remove ObjectGroup::singleton_ (bcc16c922)
- Bug 1137497 - Remove shape from unboxed objects (eb874ad5a)
- Bug 1138735 - Fallback to software vsync if CVDisplayLink fails to initialize. (40479d546)
- Bug 1136896. Speed up fill() and dedent() by memoizing some of the work they currently end up doing on each call. (e7d60964c)
- add header include (d7f3b53ac)
- Bug 1134425 - Part 1: move the allocator interface code out of line (73a0b7e67)
- change pointer style for better patching (7ff55e7a5)
- Bug 1134425 - Part 2: templatize the GC's allocation routines (10f091bb5)
- Bug 1136345. Drop the parent arg from JS_NewObjectWithGivenProto and introduce a JS_DeprecatedNewObjectWithGivenProtoAndParent for the few cases that still pass in a custom parent. (ebff19bb0)
- Bug 1136520. Stop parenting Xray expando objects to a non-global. (d58a73a3d)
- Bug 1134970 part 1. Add JS friend API to allocate an object which is guaranteed to have no attached metadata. (3e8fa3b3e)
- Bug 1134970 part 2. Add JS friend API to quickly copy properties from one object to another if the objects are similar enough. (a53538b91)
- Bug 1138874 - Change ReparentWrapper() to avoid multiple JS objects pointing to the same native (16224aa3d)
- Bug 1138874 - Generalise assertion that source object has a preserved wrapper (bff647e8a) (f66a5071e)
- import changes from rmottola/Arctic-Fox:
- Bug 1131805 part 1. Remove remaining JS_GetParent and js::GetObjectParent uses in Gecko. (5ec206e98)
- Bug 1137578. Remove JS_GetParent usage from mozJSSubscriptLoader. (ba8b18d88)
- Bug 1131802 part 1. Add JS friend API to test whether a given function object has extended slots. (d7a2bad97)
- Bug 1131802 part 2. Allocate functions with reserved slots for DOM Xrays so we can store the Xray wrapper reference in those slots instead of as the function parent. (7bc6dba71)
- Bug 1140399. Add friend API to check whether a given function object has a JSNative and to get that JSNative as needed. (71f0ccff7)
- Bug 1137334. Remove nsIDOMWindowUtils.getParent. (aa3de0a27)
- Bug 1125784 - Remove JS_ConvertArguments and JS_ConvertValue. (db6a1bd29)
- Bug 1137325. Remove the parent() function from xpcshell. (7cac0999e)
- Bug 1131797 part 1. Store an index into its XPCNativeInterface mMembers array in each XPCNativeMember. (2389614e2)
- Bug 1131797 part 2. Stop storing the XPCNativeInterface* in XPConnect function objects and just get it from the XPCNativeMember* we're still storing. (252172d87)
- Bug 1131797 part 3. Store the object we originally come from in a reserved slot on XPConnect functions instead of using the parent pointer. (252bb312f)
and fix requireAtLeast prototype for --enable-shared-js (c660cd77b)
- import changes from rmottola/Arctic-Fox:
- Bug 1136516. Stop using JS_DeprecatedNewObjectWithGivenProtoAndParent in XPCWrappedNative. (627d0c40f)
- Bug 1136523. Stop doing weird things with parents in ctypes code and remove the JS_DeprecatedNewObjectWithGivenProtoAndParent API. (075a3be27)
- Bug 1131805 part 2. Remove remaining js::GetObjectParent and JS_GetParent uses in SpiderMonkey. (6caf6189b)
- Bug 928336. Make defining unforgeable properties on objects faster by just copying them from an unforgeable holder object. (e7d32668d)
- Bug 1132522, part 1 - Treat false return from proxyHandler.defineProperty() as strict mode failure. (3237f9b70)
- Bug 1132522, part 2 - Treat false return from proxyHandler.set() as strict mode failure. (e4ab29f7a) (fcb2b3aa1)
* updated kmeleon76 goanna tree with additional change:
- ported "Allow .js preference files to set locked prefs with lock_pref()" patch (491cdc53d)

* Notice: the changelog above may not always applicable to XULRunner code which K-Meleon uses.

A goanna3 source tree that has kmeleon adaption patch applied is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/tree/kmeleon76

roytam1 thank you!

@roytam1 Thanks!

Thank you, roytam1!

Could you say, is there any chance, that KM (and Goanna 3) will support aliexpress.com and rutube.ru?

Aliexpress doesn't load some crucial script (or something else), making site almost useless:


Rutube doesn't load any video at all:




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/24/2019 10:11PM by rodocop.

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rodocop
Mello,

most of fixes simply mean for users that they again are able to browse sites that lose compatibility with old engine.

For example: old builds (Goanna 3.4.2-based) cannot browse instagram.com recent days (many errors in Console), but new 3.4.4-based - do support Instagram in full.

But some scripting things aren't supported by Goanna 3.x at all - so we cannot use (in most of features) aliexpress.com as well as have some crucial problems with some other popular sites.

So our hopes are that roytam1 will succeed in building KM over Goanna 4 some day.

Thank you for explaining rodocop - I understand, I get some scripting problems on sites.

Thanks again for update roytam1

New regular/weekly KM-Goanna release:
https://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/KM76.1.1-Goanna-20190330.7z

Changelog:

Out-of-tree changes:
* update Goanna3 to git fcb2b3aa1..d86d78c8b:
- partly ported change from tenfourfox:
- chemspill: M1537924 M1538006 (backported to ESR45) (b22dfbd77) (161cf6eb4)
- import changes from rmottola/Arctic-Fox:
- Bug 1140586 part 1. Add some asserts about us not caring too much about the parents of native functions. (dd735591e)
- Bug 1140586 part 2. Stop passing non-null funobjArg to js::NewFunction and js::NewFunctionWithProto. (b4d148f53)
- Bug 1137180 - Only mark inner scripts as having failed a bounds check after bailing out (22ded5bd9)
- Bug 1140582. Remove the parent argument from JS_NewObjectWithUniqueType. (a49a25f88)
- Bug 1139993 - Add VectorBase::ConstRange that gives out |const T&| entries. (409317be0)
- Bug 1136906 part 1. Stop passing parents to JS_NewObject in ctypes code. (14412c561)
- Bug 1136906 part 2. Stop passing a parent to JS_NewObject in xpconnect code. (e5769c27d)
- Bug 1136906 part 3. Remove the parent arg from JS_NewObject. (98f1b9c37) (ee2d17418)
- import changes from rmottola/Arctic-Fox:
- Bug 1140670 part 1. Just use the global, not the proto's parent, as the default parent in NewObjectWithGivenTaggedProto. (d2ef7ee90)
- Bug 1140670 part 2. Just use the global as the parent in js::CreateThis and js::CreateThisForFunctionWithProto. (025d25703)
- Bug 1140670 part 3. Add an assertParentIs() for asserting the parent is something specific and use it in various places to eliminate getParent() calls. (d814a6344)
- Bug 1140573 part 1. Drop the parent argument from JS_NewFunction. (d657e25c7)
- Bug 1140573 part 2. Drop the parent argument from JS_NewFunctionById. (2259f4027)
- Bug 1140573 part 3. Drop the parent argument from js::NewFunctionWithReserved. (84ab2d944)
- Bug 1140573 part 4. Drop the parent argument from js::NewFunctionByIdWithReserved. (a10821f1a)
- Bug 1142266. Remove the parent argument from js::NewObjectWithProto. (efe9144e3)
- Bug 1142241. Stop using getParent() in js::GetObjectEnvironmentObjectForFunction. (b04a4a38e)
- some pointer style for better patching (608e1a6ad) (c1ae338ae)
- import change from rmottola/Arctic-Fox:
- Bug 1133085 - PropDesc::initFromPropertyDescriptor should understand JSPROP_GETTER without JSPROP_SETTER and vice versa. (d83f16200) (d86d78c8b)

* Notice: the changelog above may not always applicable to XULRunner code which K-Meleon uses.

A goanna3 source tree that has kmeleon adaption patch applied is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/tree/kmeleon76



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/01/2019 01:22AM by roytam1.

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rodocop
Thank you, roytam1!

Could you say, is there any chance, that KM (and Goanna 3) will support aliexpress.com and rutube.ru?

Aliexpress doesn't load some crucial script (or something else), making site almost useless:


Rutube doesn't load any video at all:

it seems that they want features from newer gecko engines.

roytam1 thank you!

@roytam1 Thanks!

Hi Roytam1, first of all thanks for giving us the world of KM Goanna, I very much appreciate.
secondly, there is a problem with all KM versions (official+Goanna), and that is it does not display this site, mostly blanks pages:
daraz.pk

see details here:

http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?1,148823
I humbly request you to solve this issue, any suggestion will be appreciated.
Thanks



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/01/2019 03:09PM by JohnHell.

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WasiFH
Hi Roytam1, first of all thanks for giving us the world of KM Goanna, I very much appreciate.
secondly, there is a problem with all KM versions (official+Goanna), and that is it does not display this site, mostly blanks pages:
daraz.pk

see details here:

http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?1,148823
I humbly request you to solve this issue, any suggestion will be appreciated.
Thanks

the site initialize indexeddb in wrong way.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/01/2019 03:09PM by JohnHell.

A very good browser it is very fast.
But there are some errors: When I open a link, the browser reopens completely instead of opening a new tab.
And why is Youtube displayed in the old design?
If you open a new tab, for example, only the first letter of the website will be displayed, you could make the tab slightly larger.

You could also integrate the Ublock Origin extension, which blocks more advertising ads.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/01/2019 03:10PM by JohnHell.

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Avoid changing threads subjects, please. Append text, if you will, but don't change its main topic.

Thank you.
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