KM 76 and TLS1.3?????
Posted by: gordon451
Date: June 24, 2017 06:10AM

http://www.networkworld.com/article/3202319/internet/its-time-to-upgrade-to-tls-13-already-says-cdn-engineer.html

Currently, KM76 config only goes to
security.tls.version.max;3
which is
TLS 1.2 is the minimum required / maximum supported encryption protocol.
according to http://kb.mozillazine.org/Security.tls.version.%2A

It seems Cloudflare has already deployed TLS1.3 to its customers.

How are we going for upgrades?

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Re: KM 76 and TLS1.3?????
Posted by: Yogi
Date: June 24, 2017 10:06AM

Mozilla added support for TLS 1.3 in Firefox 49. It is enabled by default since v52.
In latest FirefoxESR 52.2.0, TLS 1.3 is still not enabled by default.

I'm afraid that a K-Meleon based on a newer Gecko engine would be the only solution.

Re: KM 76 and TLS1.3?????
Posted by: gordon451
Date: June 25, 2017 12:20AM

Um. This is awkward. KM is the only browser that meets my (admittedly peculiar) security requirements, and it is a pleasure to use.

FF itself is a walking disaster zone, Pale Moon is marginally better than Chrome, and IE is, well, IE.

No news on Dorian's status?

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Re: KM 76 and TLS1.3?????
Posted by: 4td8s
Date: July 07, 2017 07:44AM

Quote
gordon451

No news on Dorian's status?

read guenter's latest post here.

Re: KM 76 and TLS1.3?????
Posted by: giro1991
Date: November 07, 2018 01:21AM

Quote
gordon451
FF itself is a walking disaster zone, Pale Moon is marginally better than Chrome, and IE is, well, IE?

That got a chuckle. So true.

Re: KM 76 and TLS1.3?????
Posted by: giro1991
Date: June 17, 2019 03:56PM

Am }I the only one who thinks all these endless protocol updates is taking things a bit too far?
Wheres the need? As if 256bit encryption isn't enough?

getting tired of all this unsubstantiated paranoia in tech circles. The people who push it need a great big SLAP or a bucket of ice.



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Re: KM 76 and TLS1.3?????
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: June 17, 2019 05:35PM

I told the other day and I had say in other words earlier, that is so sad that early adoption, because there isn't any real need, any real chance of real scenario attack, less directly to normal users, from low budget crackers/organizations, to really, really, be continuously adopting the latest, and it is sad how Internet is forcing quick browsers obsolescences.

The fact is that we are now a connected society, the "keep up to date" or "always updated" is a quite deep seed in the average people and with the always online there is no chance to wait, breath, and stay back with "old software".

Is paranoid, but we can't do anything.

True, bugfixes, beyond security, is important, but this is too much quick development. In some way, is one of the reasons we don't have official K-meleon versions with Dorian. It is just impossible to follow the quick changes/adoption of the engines. I applaud roytam with the Goanna engine, but this is crazy. And I bet it stills lags a lot behind the latests version.

As is being said in spanish, "too much for my body" (as can't follow meaning).



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Re: KM 76 and TLS1.3?????
Posted by: siria
Date: July 04, 2019 02:17PM

Quote

Currently, KM76 config only goes to
security.tls.version.max;3
which is TLS1.2

Only know that roytam1's KM-Goanna builds (KG74+KG76) have much better TLS as older KM-Gecko.
Please clarify a bit. Is it max=4 now?

Re: KM 76 and TLS1.3?????
Posted by: anonymous
Date: July 04, 2019 06:22PM

@siria
Look at the library version numbers in about:support.

Re: KM 76 and TLS1.3?????
Posted by: anonymous
Date: July 04, 2019 08:59PM

@siria
Use max=4 with NSS 3.3 or newer.

Re: KM 76 and TLS1.3????? / TLS1.0 + 1.2 completely killed in 2020
Posted by: siria
Date: July 20, 2019 04:43PM

And the senseless destruction of harmless public websites continues:

All Major Web Browsers Will Remove TLS 1.0 and TLS 1.1 Support in 2020
https://thehackernews.com/2018/10/web-browser-tls-support.html

Quote

Since TLS implementation in all major web browsers and applications supports downgrade negotiation process, it leaves an opportunity for attackers to exploit weaker protocols even if a server supports the latest version.
According to the press releases published by four major companies, Google, Microsoft, Apple and Mozilla, their web browsers will completely drop TLS 1.0 and 1.1support by default in the first half of 2020.

All the tech companies recommended websites that do not support TLS 1.2 or newer to move off of the old versions of the protocol as soon as possible and is practical.

Furthermore, the PCI Data Security Standard (PCI DSS) compliance also requires websites to disable SSL/TLS 1.0 implementation by June 30, 2018.

Those modern browsers have no prob to handle modern TLS of course, but ALL https-WEBSITES are forced to offer that too, no matter how harmless their content.
How many non-corporate owners of very old but still very useful websites will have huge problems to update their sites to that most modern standards? That is, if they even are still around, considering the mass of abandoned sites??
And also wondering - are those offering automatic TLS downgrade for old browsers on their public sites now even FORCED to completely kick out old browsers too??

IMO that whole stuff is just to enforce yet more exclusive web monopolies for big corporations.
While authors of old useful, public websites and users of old systems and (less spyware infested) old browsers get completely kicked out for good sad smiley sad smiley



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