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Only use IE for MS Windows Update? Get the Neptune plugin for Netscape based browsers. It requires that IE is at least installed, but you never need leave your lizard again! Use this macro to run MS Windows Update in a K-Meleon window via Neptune plugin!
In macros.cfg place these lines:
[---snip---]
win_update {
menu="&Windows Update";
opennew(" javascript: function IE() { document.write('\<HTML\>\<HEAD\>\<title\>IE Browsing Frame (via Neptune plugin)\</title\>\</head\>\<body marginheight=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" leftmargin=\"0\" bottommargin=\"0\" rightmargin=\"0\" topmargin=\"0\"\>\n\n\<embed type=\"application/x-meadco-neptune-ax\" pluginspage=\"http://www.meadroid.com/neptune/download/\" width=\"100%\" height=\"100%\" param-location=\"http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/\"\>\</embed\>\n\n\ </BODY\>\</HTML\>'); document.close(); } void(IE()); ");
}
[---snip---]
IMPORTANT: The line(s) in bold must be ALL ONE LINE in the macros.cfg file, or else this will not work.
Then somewhere in menus.cfg in a existing menu definition (e.g., &View {...} ) place this line:
macros(win_update)
That's all folks!
Confirmed to work on XP with windows update v4.
BTW, K-Meleon (and Gecko) rocks more than crackhead on disability!
Shelumi`El
Jordan
S.D.G
I meant to post this in the General forum...can it be moved easily or should I just point a link to here from there?
I am ok with it. I even deleted my IE shortcuts.
is there any way to make this generic?
I need to use several sites regularly than do not work with anything but ie.
Thanks
Patrick
I have another thread open about that, I can't figure out how yet, it is in the General section, titled ATTN: Hugo...
Shelumi`El
Jordan
S.D.G
I think this requires IE5 at least, not IE4 on your computer?
N
Thanks
ndebord:
IE5, yes, but Windows Update v4 (i.e., the latest version of the software that the Windows Update uses).
Sorry for the confusion.
Patrick:
asmpgmr provided the answer to get that macro listed on the other thread working! Now it can take dynamic input and will browse in a neptune frame, any URL you enter!
Working macro is now listed on the other thread.
Shelumi`El
Jordan
S.D.G
MS,
Could you document this so I could post something for people who have this question about WindowsUpdate?
Andrew:
Sure thing. I'll add the macro, the Neptune plugin download URL, and instructions (about no line breask, etc.), in the mecros section under the misc. subsection in just a bit.
Shelumi`El
Jordan
S.D.G
Andrew:
Done.
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/resources/macros/library.php?c1=1&c2=3
Shelumi`El
Jordan
S.D.G
Good tips. I still have to use the old IE at work tho.
Quattro:
Check out this one.
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/resources/macros/library.php?c1=1&c2=3&c3=29
Also see the thread on the General section ATTN: Hugo..., it has jsnj's great variation too, and a compare macro to show half the screen in ie and half in K-M.
Shelumi`El
Jordan
S.D.G
Could it prevent this working if I make sortcuts to the 2 dll files rather than extract them?
Well I have to correct a few omissions in the macro plugin install as It were, And that is When You go to this neptune site and download the file, download It to Your C:\Program Files\K-Meleon folder and rename It from MeadCo_Neptune.exe.pl to MeadCo_Neptune.exe, then install It, Then copy the contents of the folder MeadCo_Neptune to the plugins folder and all should be ok.
Now as to the macros(win_update) install in the Views menu, What I did was go down to the line (in the "menus.cfg" area in Preferences) that says " fullscreen(&Full Screen\tF11)" and pressed return and added the line "macros(win_update)" after " fullscreen(&Full Screen\tF11)", So that It would match like so below.
fullscreen(&Full Screen\tF11)
macros(win_update)
Otherwise what MonkeeSage (---.sd.sd.cox.net) on Date: 02-27-03 14:18 said was and is true.
I'm not sure what I said that was untrue, but the instructions I gave here work fine for getting and installing the plugin:
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/resources/macros/library.php?c1=1&c2=3&c3=28
Shelumi`El
Jordan
S.D.G
I'm sorry I didn't mean to imply that anything You or anyone else said was untrue, I just meant to say, Here are some more concise instructions, It's How I implemented what You were trying to convey in what You said, So I thought I'd pass It along.
zoom:
Right on.
Shelumi`El
Jordan
S.D.G
Besides It's really great to go to M$ Windows Updates website and Not use IE 6.0x, I love It, Now All I need is an Open Source Windows Compatible OS! Keep on swatten those bugs and adding features, As this is really great, As I can hardly wait for 0.8.
I dunno why but the macros always give me trouble, the pref's are fine but these macros are so speciffic as to how they need typed in.
Zoom,
I'm curious about your reasons for changing the menus.cfg setup for Neptune?
N
I didn't really, All I did was to outline or state how I installed It, And also It wouldn't install any other way without renaming It too. Which was/is a minor problem, Why I don't know, But It does work, And since I was not only able to go to Windows Update, But I was also able to Download and for some reason Sloooowly Install the latest update for Windows XP Pro, Which is Q814995 and It seemed like It took forever to Install, But It's there and with nothing but an M$ dialog box during both the dowload and the install, I'm happy, I just wish the install wasn't so slow, But IE 6.0 is/was no-where to be seen. LOL
Now when I renamed the plugin installer, It had a .pl extension which is/was like this .exe.pl So all I did was to remove the .pl and then I installed It.
Does anyone know how to get the Neptune plugin to work on a 98lite or ieradicted Win98 SE installation? I have the dll's necessary for favorites to work (mshtml, shdocvw, 50comupd.exe, etc), but what else do I need? Can it be done without having an real install of IE? Thanks.
Have you tried? I had some IE probs awhile back and used eradicater to uninstall it b4 reinstalling... and b4 reinstalling, neptune still worked. I don't use it anymore though because it isn't any faster to load than just bringing up IE from a KM menu, the address bar always shows java language...and more importantly it always produces an error window that I have to close even though it does bring up the site.
Twigboy,
I too couldn't get Neptune to work after running IErdicator. I reinstalled, then ran IE-OFF instead. I also took the precaution of renaming IEXPLORE.EXE to IEXPLORE, then booted to DOS and looked for INDEX.DAT files and deleted them all to remove as much of the IE droppings as I could.
N
Does IE-Off leave IE alive but just dis-integrated from Windows, or does it remove it?
D Rider,
IE-OFF requires Windows 98/98SE or ME, in other words FAT32. No NT, 2000 or XP.
Here's the blurb:
<<Tired of Win98's "integration" of Microsoft Internet Explorer and the
Active Desktop? This little one-button utility from the writers of
"Windows 98 Annoyances" will turn off (or turn back on) the MSIE component
of Win98. The browser itself is *not* affected and can still be used if
and as desired. IE-OFF is harmless, reversible, and effective.>>
N
If you want to completely remove IE from win9x then get IEradicator from http://www.litepc.com/ieradicator
Note this won't work with win2000 service release 2 or later or winxp because M$ added some crappy "file protection" which keeps a hidden copy of all the "critical files" (files critical to their monopoly) and will automatically restore them if you try to delete them.
K-Meleon development related discussions.
Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
MonkeeSage
Date: February 27, 2003 07:18PM
Only use IE for MS Windows Update? Get the Neptune plugin for Netscape based browsers. It requires that IE is at least installed, but you never need leave your lizard again! Use this macro to run MS Windows Update in a K-Meleon window via Neptune plugin!
In macros.cfg place these lines:
[---snip---]
win_update {
menu="&Windows Update";
opennew(" javascript: function IE() { document.write('\<HTML\>\<HEAD\>\<title\>IE Browsing Frame (via Neptune plugin)\</title\>\</head\>\<body marginheight=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" leftmargin=\"0\" bottommargin=\"0\" rightmargin=\"0\" topmargin=\"0\"\>\n\n\<embed type=\"application/x-meadco-neptune-ax\" pluginspage=\"http://www.meadroid.com/neptune/download/\" width=\"100%\" height=\"100%\" param-location=\"http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/\"\>\</embed\>\n\n\ </BODY\>\</HTML\>'); document.close(); } void(IE()); ");
}
[---snip---]
IMPORTANT: The line(s) in bold must be ALL ONE LINE in the macros.cfg file, or else this will not work.
Then somewhere in menus.cfg in a existing menu definition (e.g., &View {...} ) place this line:
macros(win_update)
That's all folks!
Confirmed to work on XP with windows update v4.
BTW, K-Meleon (and Gecko) rocks more than crackhead on disability!
Shelumi`El
Jordan
S.D.G
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
MonkeeSage
Date: February 27, 2003 07:27PM
I meant to post this in the General forum...can it be moved easily or should I just point a link to here from there?
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
Fulvio Perini
Date: February 27, 2003 07:55PM
I am ok with it. I even deleted my IE shortcuts.
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
Patrick
Date: February 28, 2003 12:17AM
is there any way to make this generic?
I need to use several sites regularly than do not work with anything but ie.
Thanks
Patrick
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
MonkeeSage
Date: February 28, 2003 12:44AM
I have another thread open about that, I can't figure out how yet, it is in the General section, titled ATTN: Hugo...
Shelumi`El
Jordan
S.D.G
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
ndebord
Date: February 28, 2003 07:45AM
I think this requires IE5 at least, not IE4 on your computer?
N
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
Patrick
Date: February 28, 2003 03:18PM
Thanks
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
MonkeeSage
Date: February 28, 2003 08:44PM
ndebord:
IE5, yes, but Windows Update v4 (i.e., the latest version of the software that the Windows Update uses).
Sorry for the confusion.
Patrick:
asmpgmr provided the answer to get that macro listed on the other thread working! Now it can take dynamic input and will browse in a neptune frame, any URL you enter!
Working macro is now listed on the other thread.
Shelumi`El
Jordan
S.D.G
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
Andrew
Date: February 28, 2003 10:13PM
MS,
Could you document this so I could post something for people who have this question about WindowsUpdate?
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
MonkeeSage
Date: February 28, 2003 10:24PM
Andrew:
Sure thing. I'll add the macro, the Neptune plugin download URL, and instructions (about no line breask, etc.), in the mecros section under the misc. subsection in just a bit.
Shelumi`El
Jordan
S.D.G
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
MonkeeSage
Date: February 28, 2003 11:21PM
Andrew:
Done.
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/resources/macros/library.php?c1=1&c2=3
Shelumi`El
Jordan
S.D.G
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
Quattro
Date: March 05, 2003 04:43PM
Good tips. I still have to use the old IE at work tho.
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
MonkeeSage
Date: March 05, 2003 08:43PM
Quattro:
Check out this one.
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/resources/macros/library.php?c1=1&c2=3&c3=29
Also see the thread on the General section ATTN: Hugo..., it has jsnj's great variation too, and a compare macro to show half the screen in ie and half in K-M.
Shelumi`El
Jordan
S.D.G
I'm doing something wrong here
Posted by:
RottweilerKing
Date: March 10, 2003 07:38PM
Could it prevent this working if I make sortcuts to the 2 dll files rather than extract them?
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
zoom
Date: March 11, 2003 12:25AM
Well I have to correct a few omissions in the macro plugin install as It were, And that is When You go to this neptune site and download the file, download It to Your C:\Program Files\K-Meleon folder and rename It from MeadCo_Neptune.exe.pl to MeadCo_Neptune.exe, then install It, Then copy the contents of the folder MeadCo_Neptune to the plugins folder and all should be ok.
Now as to the macros(win_update) install in the Views menu, What I did was go down to the line (in the "menus.cfg" area in Preferences) that says " fullscreen(&Full Screen\tF11)" and pressed return and added the line "macros(win_update)" after " fullscreen(&Full Screen\tF11)", So that It would match like so below.
fullscreen(&Full Screen\tF11)
macros(win_update)
Otherwise what MonkeeSage (---.sd.sd.cox.net) on Date: 02-27-03 14:18 said was and is true.
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
MonkeeSage
Date: March 11, 2003 01:37AM
I'm not sure what I said that was untrue, but the instructions I gave here work fine for getting and installing the plugin:
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/resources/macros/library.php?c1=1&c2=3&c3=28
Shelumi`El
Jordan
S.D.G
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
zoom
Date: March 11, 2003 03:57AM
I'm sorry I didn't mean to imply that anything You or anyone else said was untrue, I just meant to say, Here are some more concise instructions, It's How I implemented what You were trying to convey in what You said, So I thought I'd pass It along.
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
MonkeeSage
Date: March 11, 2003 04:00AM
zoom:
Right on.
Shelumi`El
Jordan
S.D.G
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
zoom
Date: March 11, 2003 06:20AM
Besides It's really great to go to M$ Windows Updates website and Not use IE 6.0x, I love It, Now All I need is an Open Source Windows Compatible OS!
Keep on swatten those bugs and adding features, As this is really great, As I can hardly wait for 0.8. Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
RottweilerKing
Date: March 11, 2003 05:56PM
I dunno why but the macros always give me trouble, the pref's are fine but these macros are so speciffic as to how they need typed in.
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
ndebord
Date: March 13, 2003 08:17PM
Zoom,
I'm curious about your reasons for changing the menus.cfg setup for Neptune?
N
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
zoom
Date: March 14, 2003 12:28AM
I didn't really, All I did was to outline or state how I installed It, And also It wouldn't install any other way without renaming It too. Which was/is a minor problem, Why I don't know, But It does work, And since I was not only able to go to Windows Update, But I was also able to Download and for some reason Sloooowly Install the latest update for Windows XP Pro, Which is Q814995 and It seemed like It took forever to Install, But It's there and with nothing but an M$ dialog box during both the dowload and the install, I'm happy, I just wish the install wasn't so slow, But IE 6.0 is/was no-where to be seen.
LOLRe: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
zoom
Date: March 25, 2003 05:37AM
Now when I renamed the plugin installer, It had a .pl extension which is/was like this .exe.pl So all I did was to remove the .pl and then I installed It.
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
twigboy2
Date: May 20, 2003 11:22PM
Does anyone know how to get the Neptune plugin to work on a 98lite or ieradicted Win98 SE installation? I have the dll's necessary for favorites to work (mshtml, shdocvw, 50comupd.exe, etc), but what else do I need? Can it be done without having an real install of IE? Thanks.
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
jsnj
Date: May 21, 2003 04:53AM
Have you tried? I had some IE probs awhile back and used eradicater to uninstall it b4 reinstalling... and b4 reinstalling, neptune still worked. I don't use it anymore though because it isn't any faster to load than just bringing up IE from a KM menu, the address bar always shows java language...and more importantly it always produces an error window that I have to close even though it does bring up the site.
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
ndebord
Date: May 23, 2003 03:23AM
Twigboy,
I too couldn't get Neptune to work after running IErdicator. I reinstalled, then ran IE-OFF instead. I also took the precaution of renaming IEXPLORE.EXE to IEXPLORE, then booted to DOS and looked for INDEX.DAT files and deleted them all to remove as much of the IE droppings as I could.
N
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
D Rider
Date: June 06, 2003 05:24PM
Does IE-Off leave IE alive but just dis-integrated from Windows, or does it remove it?
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
ndebord
Date: June 07, 2003 03:10AM
D Rider,
IE-OFF requires Windows 98/98SE or ME, in other words FAT32. No NT, 2000 or XP.
Here's the blurb:
<<Tired of Win98's "integration" of Microsoft Internet Explorer and the
Active Desktop? This little one-button utility from the writers of
"Windows 98 Annoyances" will turn off (or turn back on) the MSIE component
of Win98. The browser itself is *not* affected and can still be used if
and as desired. IE-OFF is harmless, reversible, and effective.>>
N
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
asmpgmr
Date: June 07, 2003 02:16PM
If you want to completely remove IE from win9x then get IEradicator from http://www.litepc.com/ieradicator
Note this won't work with win2000 service release 2 or later or winxp because M$ added some crappy "file protection" which keeps a hidden copy of all the "critical files" (files critical to their monopoly) and will automatically restore them if you try to delete them.
Re: Never need to run IE again?
Posted by:
alain.NOSPAM.aupeix@wanadoo.fr
Date: June 07, 2003 02:27PM
English