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Re: new search engines
Posted by: ndebord
Date: February 22, 2005 12:02AM

Drahken,


Hmmm. <<Ditto Images>> gave me a macro redefinition error. I changed the name to <<Ditto>> and it worked. Wonder if the space between Ditto and Images was the problem?

Thanks for the web image services. In the same vein, wonder if there is an ORG out there that does similar to these commercial services? Not that I'm complaining mind you!

N

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: Drahken
Date: February 22, 2005 12:47AM

It's possible that the space messes it up, I have't tried it myself. It'd probably be a good idea to remove the spaces from WS gallery/community ones, and any others that have spaces.

I thought the wikipedia one would have already been done as well, but I checked and it wasn't.

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: jsnj
Date: February 22, 2005 12:53AM

Yeah that's why it's best not to have spaces in macro names. Anyway, I've added them to the Search Engines page. Replaced Hotbot's with the UK version since the .com version uses Google. Also added Geeves. I haven't tackled the maps/directions engines yet. I made an old one a couple years ago with MapQuest but it was a bit rudimentary. I'll probably make a separate macro page for that & maybe Yahoo maps that'll allow you to input & save your address so that you can just highlight a destination address and get the directions.

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: ndebord
Date: February 22, 2005 05:37PM

jsnj,

Good to know that it is the space thing. I'll try to make sure that my future posts do not include spaces. The hotbot thing is interesting too for it points to one of the problems of consolidation by the bigger search engine companies. That being that a lot of search engines are just rebundled Google or Yahoo or whatever.

Yes I too tried to make Mapquest work with KM, but failed miserably. After repeated failures with variations on what I thought should work I gave up in the hopes that somebody else could make it work or find a different map site that would work.

Yahoo Maps was one that ALMOST worked for me, but I think my problem was in not figuring out how to ignore the airport default search paraameter. Or at least that is where I think I was going wrong.

<sigh>

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: ndebord
Date: February 22, 2005 05:42PM

Drahken,

You're right, there was no mention of the Wikipedia engine on the Wiki. I think the Wikipedia one had been posted here in the forums but not yet updated in the Wiki. Sometimes there is a lag time between posting new search engines and the documentation being updated.

Jsnj made an interesting point about the Hotbot engine which you alluded to when you discussed the "Inktomi" engine. I refer to the almost omnipresent dominance of Google out there as the underlying search engine for all kinds of search engine sites. I'm going to have to look very closely at that when I post possible new engines for the Wiki.

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: jsnj
Date: February 22, 2005 08:46PM

Wikipedia is not mentioned in wiki because it's part of the default setup :-). Just like regular Google, Yahoo, and OneLook aren't mentioned since they are part of the default file.

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: jsnj
Date: February 22, 2005 08:57PM

If you're interested, here's a link to the mapquest directions macros I wrote when I was first starting to understand macros, so they are not too polished but they should work. When I revamp them I'll post them to the macro library.

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: jsnj
Date: February 22, 2005 08:57PM
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Re: new search engines
Posted by: Drahken
Date: February 22, 2005 10:25PM

Heh, I never paid much attention to the default engines. :-\

If you're taking out the hotbot.com engine, then we'll need one for ask/askjeeves (hotbot.com covered both google and ask).

So.... here ya go:
=============

MENUS.CFG

Engines{

macros(Ask)


MACROS.CFG

Engines{

Ask{
&OldSearch; $search = "Ask";
$eng = "http://web.ask.com/web?qsrc=0&o=0&q=";;
&SetSearch;
}

EngineSync{

setcheck("macros(Ask)", getpref(STRING, $sen) == "Ask" ? true:false);

==========


Here's a search for software, Snapfiles.com (formerly webattack) is a freeware/shareware site that I have used for years.

============

MENUS.CFG

Engines{

macros(Snapfiles)


MACROS.CFG

Engines{

Snapfiles{
&OldSearch; $search = "Snapfiles";
$eng = "http://www.snapfiles.com/downloadfind.php?action=s&search=Find&st=";;
&SetSearch;
}

EngineSync{

setcheck("macros(Snapfiles)", getpref(STRING, $sen) == "Snapfiles" ? true:false);

=============


Does anyone know a way to make one of these macros with a site that only accepts post data? http://tvtome.com is a great site for info on tv shows (past, present, and future), but I can't get it to accept a get type search from the url.

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: ndebord
Date: February 23, 2005 12:26AM

jsnj,

<<Wikipedia is not mentioned in wiki because it's part of the default setup :-). Just like regular Google, Yahoo, and OneLook aren't mentioned since they are part of the default file.>>

You're right, but perhaps it should be a complete listing in the Wiki nonetheless? What do you say?

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: Drahken
Date: February 23, 2005 01:17AM

Is it possible to include the URL of the current site in all this? I was thinking that a very useful tool would be a "search this site" feature. The end result would be something like "http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.tvtome.com&q=transformers"; (this particular one searches tvtome.com for the search string "transformers"). It seems like it could be done by inserting the $url property in there somewhere, but I don't know where.

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: ndebord
Date: February 23, 2005 02:19AM

jsnj,


Now that is some SERIOUS coding in that macro for MapQuest!

I've loaded it up, but I looke forward with great anticipation to your next map engine macro instead!

<wry grin>

N

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: jsnj
Date: February 23, 2005 02:49AM

Yeah, I mentioned that I added ask jeeves, but in my post i spelled it with a G :-/. Anyway, the site search sounds simple enough. I'll check it out and see if it is.

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: jsnj
Date: February 23, 2005 03:40AM

This worked when I just tried it:

Site{
$var=hostname($URL); &OldSearch; $search = "'".$var."'";
$eng = "http://www.google.com/search?q=site:".$var."&q=";;
&SetSearch;
}

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: ndebord
Date: March 17, 2005 03:20AM

Finally figured out how to do Yahoo Maps, although with reduced capability. This version does City and State only.

N

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MENUS.CFG
macros(Maps)


MACROS.CFG

# ----ENGINES----

Maps{
&OldSearch; $search = "Maps";
$eng = "http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?csz=";;
&SetSearch;
}

EngineSync{

setcheck("macros(Maps)", getpref(STRING, $sen) == "Maps" ? true:false);

===============================

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: jsnj
Date: March 17, 2005 08:15AM

Yup I posted that to the search engines page a few days ago, but the address I used was slightly different. I don't know if it makes a difference or not. Your address looks cleaner.

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: ndebord
Date: March 17, 2005 05:01PM

jsnj,

Ah, didn't look at the Wiki to see if you had posted or not. I'll look now.

<g>

N

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: ndebord
Date: March 22, 2005 01:06AM

Everyone,

Well, I've been looking for a travel search engine for some time that will work with KM's macro search language, with absolutely no success until now.

This one gives me limited succes. Handles the destination side of the equation. But half a loaf is better than no loaf, yes?

N

MENUS.CFG

Engines{

macros(Travel)

MACRO.CFG

# ----ENGINES----

Travel{
&OldSearch; $search = "Travel";
$eng = "http://www.findtravelto.com/cgi-bin/search/findtravel.to.cgi?x=&db=&Terms=";;
&SetSearch;
}

EngineSync{

setcheck("macros(Travel)", getpref(STRING, $sen) == "Travel" ? true:false);

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: Drahken
Date: March 26, 2005 02:42PM

Here's an unusual one that you'll either find very useful, or totally useless. It's an acronym finder/dictionary:

Engines{

macros(Acronym)


MACROS.CFG

Engines{

Acronym{
&OldSearch; $search = "Acronym";
$eng = "http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exact&Find=Find&Acronym=";;
&SetSearch;
}

EngineSync{

setcheck("macros(Acronym)", getpref(STRING, $sen) == "Acronym" ? true:false);

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: jsnj
Date: March 26, 2005 06:15PM

Someone already added the acronym finder to the search engine library awhile ago :-)

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: Rapido
Date: April 09, 2005 11:06AM


Hi! How about adding some more searchengine for example: IceRocket and FindTarget. This is some good searchengines I think.

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: Rapido
Date: April 09, 2005 01:42PM


Hi! Again! I want to tell Drahken about an small error in the Inktomi engine. When you try to search you aint getting any search results instead you only get a strange message that says Inktomi was not able to give you any searchresults because of an
error in searchstring. My searchstring was very simple and here is what I wrote: ACDC. That is what I tried to search for in Inktomi and I've got this return from the engine: red:ACDC could not search because of an error in searchstring.

Could someone see what is wrong with the macro for this searchengine please?

Yours: Rapido

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: jsnj
Date: April 09, 2005 08:59PM

Hotbot UK uses the same engine. Most if not all of the engines in this thread are at the search engine library as well as others.

http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?id=Search+Engines#H

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: Drahken
Date: April 16, 2005 08:51PM

MSN ENcart encyclopedia:

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MENUS.CFG

Engines{

macros(MSNcarta)


MACROS.CFG

Engines{

MSNcarta{
&OldSearch; $search = "MSNcarta";
$eng = "http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/search.aspx?q=";;
&SetSearch;
}

EngineSync{

setcheck("macros(MSNcarta)", getpref(STRING, $sen) == "MSNcarta" ? true:false);

===================
MSN maps
-----------------------------

MENUS.CFG

Engines{

macros(MSNmaps)


MACROS.CFG

Engines{

MSNmaps{
&OldSearch; $search = MSNmaps";
$eng = "http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/MapCenter/Map.aspx?searchTextMap=";;
&SetSearch;
}

EngineSync{

setcheck("macros(MSNmaps)", getpref(STRING, $sen) == "MSNmaps" ? true:false);


=========================

Is it possible to stick the query in the URL, and then stick .html right after it? MSNcarta's dictionary/thesaurus doesn't use a normal search function. It's done in the format:
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/QUERY.html
http://encarta.msn.com/thesaurus_/QUERY.html

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: Drahken
Date: April 18, 2005 05:19PM

Wisenut
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MENUS.CFG

Engines{

macros(Wisenut)


MACROS.CFG

Engines{

Wisenut{
&OldSearch; $search = Wisenut";
$eng = "http://www.wisenut.com/search/query.dll?q=";;
&SetSearch;
}

EngineSync{

setcheck("macros(Wisenut)", getpref(STRING, $sen) == "Wisenut" ? true:false);

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: ndebord
Date: April 19, 2005 12:09AM

Drahken,

MS Encarta, both the encyclopedia and the map search engine are very nice additions indeed.

Much thanks,

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: Dekan
Date: April 19, 2005 01:31PM

Thesaurus:

MENUS.CFG

Engines{

macros(Thesaurus)


MACROS.CFG

Engines{

Thesaurus{
&OldSearch; $search = "Thesaurus";
$eng = "http://thesaurus.reference.com/search?q=";;
&SetSearch;
}

EngineSync{

setcheck("macros(Thesaurus)", getpref(STRING, $sen) == "Thesaurus" ? true:false);

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: jsnj
Date: April 21, 2005 04:27PM

Is it possible to stick the query in the URL, and then stick .html right after it? MSNcarta's dictionary/thesaurus doesn't use a normal search function. It's done in the format:


In the present search macro script, not easily. It's possible of course in its own separate macro.


Are any posters in this thread comfortable adding these latest engines to the wiki search engine library? I usually do it and I will, but it'd be nice if others would too :-)

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: ndebord
Date: April 22, 2005 04:48AM

jsnj,

I would be willing to enter new search engines into the Wiki. Caveat. Having never done that before, I realize I don't know how to get to the search engine page from the Wiki main menu and if I did get there, how to edit it. I have registered my name with sourceforge though.

As you already know from my posts, most of the time I'm just asking how to modify macros to work, but simple posting seems like something I could do to help out.

N

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Re: new search engines
Posted by: jsnj
Date: April 24, 2005 05:48PM

It's only available from the Web Search Options menu via the Add Engines macro. Here's the link:

http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?id=Search+Engines

To edit the page, just click the EditThisPage link at the bottom of the page(you may have to scroll horizontally).

Then, the site will probably ask you to login. After you login, hit the back button a couple times until you see the search engine wiki page in edit mode.

At first glance, the page in edit mode may look a little daunting but it's not as difficult as it may look. Just copy one of the engine sections starting from it's title down to %%%, and then paste it where you're going to place the new engine(alphabetically) and right above another search engine title.

Now replace the copied engine info with your new engine info. Then click the Preview button at the bottom to see the results and to correct any errors. If all looks good, fill in the captcha phrase and then click Save. :-)

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