this happened when entering a home page -> url=
http://www.angelfire.com/fl/tracehome/index.html
it happened twice in a row, I had to use an MSIE 5.5
to go there.

message read.

K-MELEON verursachte eine allgemeine Schutzverletzung
in Modul KRNL386.EXE bei ddfa:00000952.
Register:
EAX=501f36bf CS=501f EIP=00000952 EFLGS=00000297
EBX=00022954 SS=2d0f ESP=00008c38 EBP=00428c54
ECX=00022d0f DS=2d0f ESI=000054c8 FS=1287
EDX=8193002d ES=2d0f EDI=00000000 GS=16ce
Bytes bei CS:EIP:
c2 09 66 68 f0 12 36 01 66 68 00 00 03 00 ea 56
Stapelwerte:
108b54c8 000008af 383716ce 001c0000 00000bcc 54c80000 09af0000 24478c69 000108bf 16ce0000 00003837 2954001c 093e0002 217f501f 00008070 27372d0f

system win ME - with - K-Meleon 0.8.2

does this come from my system - how to avoid this in future?

or is this from the page or the pop-up-advertisements.

greetings

I noticed my cpu load go up when i visited this site mainly cuase of the ad banner uses javascript . K-meleon didn't crash for me though an my cpu went down back to normal after it loaded . I'm on Windows ME an K-meleon was the only thing running at the time.

hi ken,

thanks for the info.

guess you must be right, it must have been the ad that put me out.
because k-meleon was not the only program running.
thunderbird mail was running at stanby, becouse I was waiting for an e-mail.
it is normally no problem on an athlon1000. I always do that.
MSIE 5.5 does less checking of security with scripts, I think.
so msie was less demanding for the cpu, I pressume.
But that is one of the reasons why I prefer my k-meleon
- more security & just as fast, or faster.

I use an older version k-meleon and the k-meleon0.8.2
the older was not passing out so often. so I was wondering.
(and daughter is only using the older, I made it to look like MSIE icons and almost all.)


greetings

sneaky sneaky

it has either to do with my hardware or software setup or:

the fault can be reproduced.
I can anyway. with this setup and hardware.
if I jump directly to the place ->k-meleon0.8.2 will stay (normally) alive.
but if I go step by step k-meleon is killed.

way:
http://www.thebubblegumhouse.net/
http://www.thebubblegumhouse.net/Basement.html

3 criter top left go to trace
http://www.angelfire.com/fl/tracehome/index.html

at trace's k-meleon 0.8.2 passed out. on each of down below faults and stayed alive 2 times. k-meleon 0.7.1 did not pass out.

there are JavaScripts AND one applet, that ist surching for missing children.

<applet code="NCMECbanner.class"
codebase="http://banner.missingkids.com/java/"; TARGET="_top"
align="baseline" hspace="8" width="342" height="128">
</applet>

many scripts and an applet. it is perhaps a known fault, if - I am sorry.
it is possibly the way.

because I could not reproduce the fault on the downloaded page from hdd.

it could be possibly a known fault, it is not the cpu load. which ken and me first presumed.
a fault concerning java. and or java and java script combined. or my plugins?
because if I go to the place where it happened - following the same procedure - it almost always kills my k-meleon0.8.2 with only k-meleon running, too.

looked by chance into my jpi_cache & regognized a foto from the page where the first two faults were. I looked because I had a pass out of k-meleon just after my last post.

there was an applet and java script on that site too. I think.
gecko recently altered something with the working-together of javascript and applet.
if I remember correctly.

that was this fault at that other site.

K-MELEON verursachte einen Fehler durch eine ungültige Seite
in Modul WEBBRWSR.DLL bei 016f:0141276d.
Register:
EAX=00000000 CS=016f EIP=0141276d EFLGS=00010246
EBX=00000000 SS=0177 ESP=0067eb40 EBP=0067eb64
ECX=0067eb5c DS=0177 ESI=000013aa FS=1287
EDX=0067eb5c ES=0177 EDI=0000078c GS=0000
Bytes bei CS:EIP:
8b 40 14 85 c0 89 01 74 06 8b 08 50 ff 51 04 33
Stapelwerte:
0040ca84 107bb544 0067eb5c 0000078c 000013aa bff44505 0000078c 00000000 bff44505 bff42366 01381b36 0067eb90 0067eb88 0067eb94 00000000 00000c0c

java applet and a script. - if I understand the html code of the page rightly.
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/manchaca/525/bebutflyc.html
but this was the only fault at that home site - which is many applet amd script pages big.

meanwhile checked source code of where I had the first two crashes.
after some attempts to go there.


http://www.angelfire.com/fl/tracehome/index.html
second fault - I did not record the first.

K-MELEON verursachte eine allgemeine Schutzverletzung
in Modul KRNL386.EXE bei ddfa:00000952.
Register:
EAX=501f36bf CS=501f EIP=00000952 EFLGS=00000297
EBX=00022954 SS=2d0f ESP=00008c38 EBP=00428c54
ECX=00022d0f DS=2d0f ESI=000054c8 FS=1287
EDX=8193002d ES=2d0f EDI=00000000 GS=16ce
Bytes bei CS:EIP:
c2 09 66 68 f0 12 36 01 66 68 00 00 03 00 ea 56
Stapelwerte:
108b54c8 000008af 383716ce 001c0000 00000bcc 54c80000 09af0000 24478c69 000108bf 16ce0000 00003837 2954001c 093e0002 217f501f 00008070 27372d0f

K-MELEON verursachte einen Fehler durch eine ungültige Seite
in Modul USER32.DLL bei 016f:bff439d1.
Register:
EAX=00003a0f CS=016f EIP=bff439d1 EFLGS=00010202
EBX=0067fbec SS=0177 ESP=0067fbe0 EBP=0067fc30
ECX=00000004 DS=0177 ESI=00008c3e FS=16ef
EDX=00003a0f ES=0177 EDI=00008c32 GS=0000
Bytes bei CS:EIP:
0f bf 02 83 c2 02 89 03 83 c3 04 e2 f3 5b 0f b7
Stapelwerte:
0067fbfe 0067fbec 1b260000 00002d2f 7a6d8bf8 bff439b3 0000016f 8c022d2f 2d2f2d2f 686c0000 00028c54 40b80003 76b86d08 00000157 00000000 00000000


K-MELEON verursachte einen Fehler durch eine ungültige Seite
in Modul USER32.DLL bei 016f:bff439d1.
Register:
EAX=0000394f CS=016f EIP=bff439d1 EFLGS=00010202
EBX=0067fbec SS=0177 ESP=0067fbe0 EBP=0067fc30
ECX=00000004 DS=0177 ESI=00008c3e FS=16ef
EDX=0000394f ES=0177 EDI=00008c32 GS=0000
Bytes bei CS:EIP:
0f bf 02 83 c2 02 89 03 83 c3 04 e2 f3 5b 0f b7
Stapelwerte:
0067fbfe 0067fbec 1b1e0000 00002d4f 7a6d8bf8 bff439b3 0000016f 8c022d4f 2d4f2d4f 60ac0000 00028c54 40b80003 76b86d08 00000157 00000000 00000000


K-MELEON verursachte einen Fehler durch eine ungültige Seite
in Modul USER32.DLL bei 016f:bff439d1.
Register:
EAX=000039b7 CS=016f EIP=bff439d1 EFLGS=00010202
EBX=0067fbec SS=0177 ESP=0067fbe0 EBP=0067fc30
ECX=00000004 DS=0177 ESI=00008c3e FS=16ef
EDX=000039b7 ES=0177 EDI=00008c32 GS=0000
Bytes bei CS:EIP:
0f bf 02 83 c2 02 89 03 83 c3 04 e2 f3 5b 0f b7
Stapelwerte:
0067fbfe 0067fbec 1b1e0000 00002d27 7a6d8bf8 bff439b3 0000016f 8c022d27 2d272d27 6f8c0000 00028c54 40b80003 76b86d08 00000157 00000000 00000000


K-MELEON verursachte eine allgemeine Schutzverletzung
in Modul KRNL386.EXE bei 0002:0000766e.
Register:
EAX=501f0167 CS=0157 EIP=0000766e EFLGS=00000212
EBX=000222bc SS=2cff ESP=00008c32 EBP=00428c38
ECX=00022cff DS=0167 ESI=00002214 FS=16ef
EDX=81930000 ES=2cff EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes bei CS:EIP:
8b 38 8e 58 02 8b 5e 02 c1 e3 02 ff 71 02 ff 31
Stapelwerte:
00002cff 8c5474ec 08af108b 1b1e0000 00003af7 02d4001c 00000000 000074ec 8caa09af 08bf2447 00000001 3af71b1e 001c0000 0002a1e8 501f03a8 8070217f

K-MELEON verursachte einen Fehler durch eine ungültige Seite
in Modul USER32.DLL bei 016f:bff439d1.
Register:
EAX=00003ccf CS=016f EIP=bff439d1 EFLGS=00010202
EBX=0067fbec SS=0177 ESP=0067fbe0 EBP=0067fc30
ECX=00000004 DS=0177 ESI=00008c3e FS=16ef
EDX=00003ccf ES=0177 EDI=00008c32 GS=0000
Bytes bei CS:EIP:
0f bf 02 83 c2 02 89 03 83 c3 04 e2 f3 5b 0f b7
Stapelwerte:
0067fbfe 0067fbec 1b1e0000 00002d47 7a6d8bf8 bff439b3 0000016f 8c022d47 2d472d47 38a00000 00028c54 40b80003 76b86d08 00000157 00000000 00000000

K-MELEON verursachte eine allgemeine Schutzverletzung
in Modul KRNL386.EXE bei 0002:0000766e.
Register:
EAX=501f0167 CS=0157 EIP=0000766e EFLGS=00000212
EBX=000222bc SS=410f ESP=00008c2a EBP=00428c30
ECX=0002410f DS=0167 ESI=00002214 FS=2db7
EDX=81930000 ES=410f EDI=00420000 GS=0000
Bytes bei CS:EIP:
8b 38 8e 58 02 8b 5e 02 c1 e3 02 ff 71 02 ff 31
Stapelwerte:
0000410f 8c4c95d8 08af108b 2dee0000 0000496f 0534001c 00420000 000095d8 8ca209af 08bf2447 00000001 496f2dee 001c0000 000287b0 501f0980 8070217f

greetings

this is off topic and sorry for it but, guenter, have u thought about distributing the "IE" skin for KM? i wouldnt use it but i know of a few people that would. just a thought.

dear efosb,

I am sorry for posting out of place. please ask the moderator to remove my post.
I did not know, or understand that buggs was not the proper place. i hope You are not too angry about me beeing so dumb.

i stoped using msie - when after a so called "update" i could not go to applet places anymore - doing that is my hobby.

with alternative browsers i looked into the forums, when i had a problem.
or posted as much information as i could find out on my machine so that someone could help me to solve faults on my pc.

- else i removed the browser. if no solution was found.

there are several msie-skins availabel where you get all the k-meleon skins.
i think they are still there. the rest is done with a resource editor. it takes some hours.

i am not going to do that with k-meleon 0.8.2 - it has been been removed from my system

because - nobody knew a solution, i did not find one on my own
-> that was it for this brew of k-meleon.

& i am very sorry for posting out of place - it will not happen again.

greetings guenter

guenter,

You didn't post out of place. efosb was saying that his post was out of place because it didn't answer your question but he wanted you to post a copy of your IE skin. If you want to post your bug here:

http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/bugs/

the developers can look into it further.

Dear Andrew, Dear efosb,

i am sorry.

but i cannot post that skin in public.
it is a resource hack like that the k-m on cd people did.
i used msies original icons. I think they are not my copyright.
besides that it is for an older version of k-meleon (0.7.1) & is based on one of the skins that were already posted. i doubt the *.exe will run with components of 0.8.2

my second instalation of k-m 0.8.2 runs better - but still less stable than k-m 0.7.1.

greetings

lol, im sorry i made u think i was angry. andrew was right when he said i was talking about my post be off topic. as for the skin, too bad. maybe u could tell me how i could make it ;-) just a note, im in ME with 0.8.2 and i havent run into any problems yet. :-)

dear efosb,
for further info see:
<a href="http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?f=1&i=12534&t=12527">this thread</a>and
<a href="http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?f=1&i=12057&t=12042">this thread</a>
however, this does not change the problem - we have.
neither of us has the copyright to the icons and graphics involved.
we can IMHO only distribute these changes on a private basis to friends or family.

greetings

i was just picking, i wouldn't try to make a MSIE skin with copywrited icons. if i did i would probebly have microsoft coming down on me hard, lmao. "if" i did make a MSIE skin with copywrited icons, i would proebebly destroy it right after i finish. anywho, i hope you problem gets fixed. i know i wasnt any help with your problem here, sorry. :-)

dear efosb,

thanx for asking after k-m0.8.2 the 2nd, he is fine!
my second install is from the same files. it works fine: one blackout on a known-isue (so far // a leaky testsuite opens too many windows).
one reoccuring fault-warning-chime - I can live with that.

Question: have You tested k-m0.8.2 with a leaner Java (e.g. 1.3) yet.
i ask because my warning chime-message is pertaining to java.
if You find out anything ->e. g. how well the older javas work
->let me know-> where You post Your findings, thanx

icons & destroy - i am not so sure ->You would destroy
->the ms flag is exploding so nicely : )

No, You were right too, the fault messages read: it is windows kernel etc.
and You could not know - that my system was otherwise stable.
nobody could know that something had happened to the my k.m.exe during install/unpacking. & that reinstaling was the key to solve my problem.: (

Andrews councel: the bug team: (was right too)
they would have seen it from the fault-messages, i think.
but why ask the "hackers" before everything else has been tried to get k-m working without consuming their time.

IMHO we are here to help others and to get help. to filter, never to flame.
there are no stupid questions (except from known trolls).
many people tend panik when they run into trouble with a progi.
it usually prevents them from reading the posts (well enough).

Re-Instal: perhaps - it is a solution for other strange things with other people too.

we have to remember that a faulty instal can happen! (with our favourite progi too)
->You are in the forum more often than me; )

and You do not have to be or to say: sorry: ; ) -> I should say it to You
for I "forgot" to mention that i would not leave our k-m uninstaled ; )
stupid me: ) to reinstall: it one of my standart procedures, programs are machines, they break down sometimes. I just would not beleave that this had happened to my brand new k-m0.8.2. that is the problem if you like a progi too much. no common sence any more. with a faulty MSIEchen i would have done/tried this right away.
greetings

dear efosb,
we push a solved "problem" up
stupid me again; )
if You find anything about java ->You can perhaps "post" there->
my mail: 1770.779 bei htp-tel.de
"bei" without spaces @
// i hope spam-harvester-bots do not get here, but to make sure
greetings

i have tried the jave runtime 1.3.1 and to me it serves its purpose and doesnt hog everything like the runtime i had before. i cant hide the systray icon for the jre but thats only a little problem for me.

dear efosb,
thats good news for me - thanx.
greetings