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KM75 Start BREAKS; sessions.json
Posted by: visionhelp
Date: August 02, 2015 05:38PM

Hi,
after weeks 75.0 working - most - OK, now the start of K-Meleon breaks with the (german) message:
K-Meleon Web Browser hat ein Problem festgestellt und muss beendet werden.
(. . . has found a problem and must be ended.)
Problemsignatur (signature of problem)
MOdVer 10.0.30319.1 ModName: msvcr100.dll Offset: 00002910

(Only Avast Free AntiVir was installed as change, and is running - but: disabled, most times - already about 7 to 10 days before that start-error of K-Meleon, now.)

[A ´hmtl-5 video´ has been played still before, before XP crashed with blue-screen again, since (some) whiles, but only when online.]

Bericht nach schwerem Fehler: (report after fatal error)
BCCode : c2 BCP1 : 00000007 BCP2 : 00000CD4 BCP3 : 00005FDE
BCP4 : 860381D0 OSVer : 5_1_2600 SP : 3_0 Product : 256_1

Because of perhaps depending of these two things, I am telling it here.

CrashReport:
Submission succeeded, The report was submitted with the number 1991. 1993.


If I would know, that I do not have to fear about the bookmarks, last session and the options-settings, I could try to install new - again -, without un-install before.



Edited 16 time(s). Last edit at 08/13/2015 05:49AM by visionhelp.

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Re: K-Meleon Start b r e a k s (XP SP3)
Posted by: visionhelp
Date: August 05, 2015 09:37AM

You are leaving me alone, with this.

Please, tell me, which and where are the files of the:
settings,
bookmarks,
last session.
(For version 75.0. With XP Prof. SP3.)
Then I at least am able to try to install new.
Thanks.
(If there is a better thread to put this theme to, then put it to there and delete it here, please; but - and - tell me, please.)



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Re: K-Meleon Start b r e a k s (XP SP3)
Posted by: rodocop
Date: August 05, 2015 01:19PM

Avast may change some system files with ones of different version, for example.

Try to run (Start button -> Run) the next command:
sfc /scannow

You'll need the XP installation disk or its content copy on your hard drive

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Re: K-Meleon Start b r e a k s (XP SP3)
Posted by: rodocop
Date: August 05, 2015 01:22PM

There in your profile folder are:

prefs.js - all your customized preferences
bookmarks.html - bookmarks
sessions.json - sessions info (including last one)

Backup these files.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/05/2015 01:23PM by rodocop.

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Re: K-Meleon Start b r e a k s (XP SP3)
Posted by: Dorian
Date: August 05, 2015 04:33PM

From the crash report I can tell you're not using the final release. The problem is due to sessions but I don't have more details.

Please install the final release and try again. Send a new crash report if it still crashes.

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Re: K-Meleon Start b r e a k s (XP SP3)
Posted by: visionhelp
Date: August 05, 2015 05:11PM

OK., thanks, big thanks.

Perhaps from NOT un-installing 74.x and installing 75 to it, but worked, until Avast, more: until this html5-video.

I have some works now. Thanks again. I´ll ´feed´ back.

"sfc /scannow" did not solve this.

"you're not using the final release.": "NOT un-installing 74.x".

"The problem is due to sessions":
K-Meleon offers the last session to start with, but with "yes" AND "no" it does not work.

I do now the copies and install new.



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Re: K-Meleon Start b r e a k s (XP SP3)
Posted by: visionhelp
Date: August 05, 2015 06:30PM

Un-installed twice,

1st: without removing the settings-files.

2nd: with deleting these files, and CrashReport.exe.

Each without rebooting after un-installing.

Now un-install all. And Reboot. Install 75.0. And install CrashReport. And try again.

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Re: K-Meleon Start b r e a k s (XP SP3)
Posted by: visionhelp
Date: August 05, 2015 06:48PM

CrashRepost 1995.
In spite of un-installed with all settings - and reboot - the new installation offers to start with a recovery of the last session . . . still.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/06/2015 06:55AM by visionhelp.

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Re: K-Meleon Start b r e a k s (XP SP3)
Posted by: visionhelp
Date: August 06, 2015 01:22PM

Feed back:

after the un-installation of K-Meleon I still had to delete manually the folder \K-Meleon\
in:
\Dokumente und Einstellungen[user-name]\Anwendungsdaten\.
(What it is called in english, please do someone else better.)

Now the new installation does work and KM starts, again.

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Re: K-Meleon Start b r e a k s (XP SP3)
Posted by: visionhelp
Date: August 06, 2015 02:36PM

Does the file ´dbghelp.dll´ - left after un-installation - in ´\Programme\K-Meleon\´-folder belong to ´K-Meleon´-installation ?

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Re: K-Meleon Start b r e a k s (XP SP3)
Posted by: Dorian
Date: August 06, 2015 05:39PM

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visionhelp
Feed back:

after the un-installation of K-Meleon I still had to delete manually the folder \K-Meleon\
in:
\Dokumente und Einstellungen[user-name]\Anwendungsdaten\.
(What it is called in english, please do someone else better.)

Now the new installation does work and KM starts, again.

You deleted your profile, and therefore the session causing the crash.
To fix the problem, I would need your "sessions.json" file, if you did keep it.

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visionhelp
Does the file ´dbghelp.dll´ - left after un-installation - in ´\Programme\K-Meleon\´-folder belong to ´K-Meleon´-installation ?

Yes, for the crash report plugin.

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Re: K-Meleon Start b r e a k s (XP SP3)
Posted by: visionhelp
Date: August 07, 2015 06:41AM

No, Dorian,

after ´html5´-video KM did not start again, not with and not without the (start-)option to start with - or without - last session recovery.

Un-installing KM - without manually deleting in ´Documents and Settings´ the folder \K-Meleon\ - did not work properly, so that from this the new installation did not solve this problem.
First deleting manually - and then the new installation - did solve this problem, now.

(I have all the copies from ´\Programs\K-Meleon\´-settings and from ´Documents and Settings\...\K-Meleon\´-folder. I hope to get back all with this.
Just have still to do, next.

"Yes, for the crash report plugin.": Thanks.

(off-topic: what is wrong with my time setting UTC +1 ?; do not get the mail-note from this by time, I think.)



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Re: K-Meleon Start b r e a k s (XP SP3)
Posted by: visionhelp
Date: August 07, 2015 05:35PM

Quote: "You deleted your profile, and therefore the session causing the crash":

While viewing the file ´sessions.json´ - with the size of 163 KB; with 2739 lines - I do not wonder, it crashes the start of KM, when I choose "Yes", but with "No" . . . ?

There are not only the used TABs-URLs once: they are there more then double and triple.
It more looks like a log-file than saved TABs only.

So now I have to fear, when putting it to the belonging folder, this (start-)error could happen again.

If I imagine right, then the many URLs You do not need, Dorian. Is there something special, You need from this file ?, what I can send to You ?
(Perhaps the two last lines; sorry, they are not to copy easily.
They look like a log-file of my firewall Agnitum Outpost, very old version.
And CAN not belong to a sessions-file.
I think about to delete this first - into another file -, before putting it ´back´.
I think, this is very special weird.)



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 08/08/2015 05:43PM by visionhelp.

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Re: K-Meleon Start b r e a k s (XP SP3)
Posted by: Dorian
Date: August 07, 2015 08:35PM

@visionhelp, I've sent you a private message

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Re: K-Meleon Start b r e a k s (XP SP3)
Posted by: visionhelp
Date: August 08, 2015 05:46PM

To Dorian,

found a sufficient solution, I think; send PM again, please.

(I do not really think, that this could be belonging to this theme:
(URL, offline created) TABs ´sessions save´ does not save this TAB; I actually recognized.)



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 08/08/2015 09:20PM by visionhelp.

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Re: K-Meleon Start b r e a k s (XP SP3) / old 2015
Posted by: siria
Date: January 14, 2020 10:30PM

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Dorian
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visionhelp
Does the file ´dbghelp.dll´ - left after un-installation - in ´\Programme\K-Meleon\´-folder belong to ´K-Meleon´-installation ?

Yes, for the crash report plugin.

Bit late, but if someone in the future has startup crash probs again:
There can be many reasons, and "dbghelp.dll" can actually be one of them.
Just try if it helps to delete it.

Deleting it did help last year when my KM1.6 started crashing after installation of a newer KernelEx version. Of course, the culprit was rather this slightly buggy Kex version, but anyway, there can be compatibility probs.
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?19,146040,146099#msg-146099

While at it, IIRC another reason for startup-crashes in older KM-versions turned out the updater plugin. It checks the website, which occasionally is down, then it crashed. But guess this was fixed in newer KM-versions.

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