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At every 25min of viewing/listening time the videos freeze/stop (the sound too).
On KM Pro however, only the image freezez while the sound still works tho.
Is there a fix for this on Goanna? This seems to happen with all videos on Goanna for months now at least in my case.
I'm using:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/3.4 Firefox/52.9 K-Meleon/76.0 (portable) on XP Pro SP3. I've already did that video video decoder swap yet the result is the same.
Any ideas?
I'm afraid there is no solution. This is an old bug that even mozilla can't fix.
I see, well at least it's not that huge of a problem i just have to refresh the page every 30min.
PS
Thank you very much for all the hard work you've put in in giving us Goanna
@Rain
If flash is involved, there was a user who accepted a solution (link) for Firefox two years ago. You can post a link where this happens for others to test.
@roytam1
Something on bugzilla?
Similar discussions, just much more detailed, but related engines:
https://msfn.org/board/topic/177125-my-build-of-new-moon-temp-name-aka-pale-moon-for-xp/?page=57
@Rain
I used to have something like this, but I completely disabling all kinds of caching and use tricky traffic filtering helped and now there is no problem. Some types of caching cant be disabled through interface (not all).
pref("browser.cache.disk.enable", false);
pref("browser.cache.disk.capacity", 0);
pref("browser.cache.disk_cache_ssl", false);
pref("browser.cache.memory.enable", false);
pref("network.http.use-cache", false);
pref("media.cache_size", 0);
pref("browser.cache.offline.capacity", 0);
pref("browser.cache.offline.enable", false);
pref("extensions.getAddons.cache.enabled", false);
pref("browser.sessionstore.privacy_level", 2);
pref("browser.sessionstore.privacy_level_deferred", 2);
Checked on two BBC videos (40 minutes each) all worked without freezing. By the way, often after a certain time on YouTube exist embedded advertising (and incomplete blocking, which leads to attempts to run unavailable ad unit). Here it is necessary to block even a ping of a resource. Problem was relevant about six months ago, now everything works well.
@hermes
Tried it (except for the last two, they didn't appear in options) same issue after 25min...
@anonymous
I haven't installed Flash Player since portable KM didn't seem to need it, am i wrong here? And in need of a portable flash file?
@siria
Bookmarked it and will read it this weekend. Thank you.
A little off topic, but is there a Goanna-like thread on the PM forums where roytam still releases XP versions of NM?
@Rain
Just make sure that about:addons -> Plugins shows nothing. XP SP3 test platform is available, but the link you used and the modified preference settings from about:support are still unknown.
@anonymous
This is what i have:
I guess i can deactivate/uninstall them but i would keep the SumatraPDF plugin if possible.
@Rain
The entries in about:plugins should cause no problems. Need one of your YouTube links and the modified media related preference settings (if any) from about:support to start testing.
You mean this?
I don't think theres any need to waste any more time on this. And ALL YouTube videos over 25min long freeze, no need for a particular link.
I think it's still worth a bit time, considering it's not only your prob, but a general one.
And this anonymous here has given some extremely helpful tips in the past too.
Would try those 2 as well, since Hermes says they are needed.
Just add them manually in about:config, right-click and create new...
Just because a pref doesn't appear in options or aboutconfig, doesn't mean anything at all: Lots of fundamental prefs are hidden this way from users! For example the global useragent override pref, or the pref for default-blocking of iframes (FB&twitter everywhere), for Ajax (XHR-pref), font-downloading, html5-videos (media) etc.
If unsure, just make a backup copy of current prefs.js in the current profile folder before testing.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/09/2018 10:49AM by siria.
@siria
I've manually created the last two as you said (boolean has no numbers option so i made them string instead or should they be integer?)
EDIT: Same issue after adding those two. Freezez at 25.
I was not trying to imply that anonymous was not helpful. I just didn't want people to waste time on this if it was only important to me, but if we're all in the same pot, then sure, why not?
Yes it's certainly not just your own prob. Over at the msfn-forum it's been mentioned a couple times too.
If Hermes block-all-caching trick can help, then most people who do want caching probably won't use it, but if it's really annoying the them this group of prefs could be toggled all together in a little macro (just which GUI? keyboard shortcut? button? menu?)
If the values are not in "quotes" at the end of the pref lines, then they are pure number prefs, yes that means INT (=only whole numbers possible, no commas or dots, can have a minus)
How to change: right-click in about:config to "reset" them, close tab, open it again, and create prefs again as INT
Back again. Downloaded the latest version of Goanna and did all that hermes and you instructed me to do, the result is the same... The picture freezez at 25 and sound dies out 3-4 min later.
I mostly need this fixed so that i can listen to longer soundtracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjM9mFy22ks
On a side note about videos, not necessarily related to that youtube prob, but something that surprised me mighty the last days:
1) A KM76 or Goanna (?) user tried to get rid of plugin-container for videos. He disabled not only all ipc-prefs, but it sounded like he even deleted the plugin-container.exe completely, as was described in a tech article. Yet, that thing still DID run, although it didn't exist anymore, and all other things he tried didn't help a thing either. Then he found a solution:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?1,147592,147621#msg-147621
2) A user of NewMoon (Goanna-engine like KM) had trouble getting Netflix to play on XP. Had something to do with Netflix dropping silverlight and now needing DRM, which is not a native part of Goanna. At the msfn-forum they gave him lots of tips and instructions etc. Finally he got it running again, in Firefox. But:
https://msfn.org/board/topic/177768-netflix-playback/
Conclusion:
It's not only KM-settings and KM-plugins which matter, but also the settings and plugins in the Firefox appdata and userdata! Which KM seems to silently use too. I can already see the replies about how this would go without saying, nothing surprising... But it certainly was a huge surprise to me! Especially the first case, where Shiro had clearly disabled all the prefs in KM, yet the browser simply ignored that and borrowed the exe from neighbor Firefox!
So we have to consider now, when someone has a prob in KM, and another user has it not, the root of this difference might just be different Firefox plugins.
Regarding youtube, could it be that perhaps this messageChannel thing is somehow involved? Just a wild idea, because both probs were said to occur in Firefox only. Or some other privacy setting. Or perhaps that SSD-killer pref in FF, which caused already other video probs? (browser.sessionstore.interval=300000)
@Rain
Tested on some XP setups and can confirm what you found out.
@roytam1
Not related, but Screen-saver started when testing, because patch for BUG 1193610 is missing.
@siria
This is only about XP. How's your YouTube playback on 9x?
Are these the official sites where roytam hosts/updates his XP releases of NM?
https://msfn.org/board/topic/177125-my-build-of-new-moon-temp-name-aka-pale-moon-for-xp/
http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/search/label/browser
Yes. And for quick update checking you can even jump directly to his download links, for example KM-Goanna: https://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/
@anonymous:
Sorry but have long since given up trying to watch youtube directly, just not enough resources after they killed flash. Although html5 videos do start in Opera12.02 and KM74-goanna, but the frames load extremely slow, stammering and stuttering, 1 frame every few seconds... But downloading the mp4's with some web service (e.g. qdownloader.net) and then watching local still works great.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/16/2018 12:25PM by siria.
@siria
Never tested your KM74-g22, but YouTube should send VP8 files and no MP4 files for that browser. Acceleration is disabled because Gecko blacklists all old video drivers. We add exceptions for our drivers in forks. In one of the XP test setups, the freeze after 25 minutes test dropped frames and looked greenish in KM, before I added ffmpeg files.
Hmm, I suppose you're not explaining this mainly to me (slightly over my head again, and KMG74 way to crashy anyway), but in the hopes that other interested people can use it better.
But while you're here, please take a look over there too? :cool:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?2,146871
I'm gueesing it's related since podcast players seem to suffer from the same issue as mentioned in this thread. Just in case this info is of any use to someone.
OFF-TOPIC
@siria
Who else has used KM74-g22 on 9x more than once? It is crashy on 9x, because it contains a KM for W2K+.
About your teeny tiny addon:
Extract some unused xpi-addons from your collection. Search for string 'appstartup' in js-files in components folder. Pick the smallest XPI-file that works in KM. Add the UA init lines to the end of appstartup function. Test it.
It doesn't help for this 23min-prob, just as general info:
There have been several user reports already that some major websites (twitter, youtube etc.) have started boycotting XP. Especially video/media related, either they don't play at all or are stammering, and the websites will not tell you they do this intentionally. But users have reported that quite often those probs go away if they simply spoof their system in the useragent!
If you want to try it, you can for example copy your original string above and replace NT 5.1 with NT 6.1 (Win7)
If you don't know how, use either a macro like useragents2018 or open about:config, right-click and create that pref manually:
general.useragent.override = Mozilla.... (STRING)
OFF-TOPIC
Yes of course, but same goes for KM1.6, which is even for XP+, yet works quite stable Not from the beginning either, it took awhile, but there's hope it can be done. Other people have tried KMG74 over at the MSFN forum too, and it gets clearer that the main probs are caused by slightly buggy KernelEx update v17. But now that's finally in the works again. And my hopes are rising again
Will try again with the UA-site-init addon, just will take a lot of time searching around again for fitting examples.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/17/2018 08:38PM by siria.
OFF-TOPIC
@siria
It works if added to refcontrol and KM 1.6 still used multibyte.
Not sure what that means exactly:
adding ffmpeg files fixes that 23min bug...?
@siria
No. Adding ffmpeg filters fixed lost frames and greenish playback with lav filters using blacklisted Intel graphics drivers. It was just one of the hardware setups I used to confirm freezing.
An easy workaround for the 23min bug I found was to just hit RIGHT ARROW once when it happens.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/28/2018 09:11PM by giro1991.
Confirming both the 23m-bug itself and right-arrow solution (you should have the focus on the video frame to work)
You can talk about issues with k-meleon here.
YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
Rain
Date: September 06, 2018 09:44AM
At every 25min of viewing/listening time the videos freeze/stop (the sound too).
On KM Pro however, only the image freezez while the sound still works tho.
Is there a fix for this on Goanna? This seems to happen with all videos on Goanna for months now at least in my case.
I'm using:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/3.4 Firefox/52.9 K-Meleon/76.0 (portable) on XP Pro SP3. I've already did that video video decoder swap yet the result is the same.
Any ideas?
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
roytam1
Date: September 06, 2018 12:33PM
Quote
Rain
At every 25min of viewing/listening time the videos freeze/stop (the sound too).
On KM Pro however, only the image freezez while the sound still works tho.
Is there a fix for this on Goanna? This seems to happen with all videos on Goanna for months now at least in my case.
I'm using:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/3.4 Firefox/52.9 K-Meleon/76.0 (portable) on XP Pro SP3. I've already did that video video decoder swap yet the result is the same.
Any ideas?
I'm afraid there is no solution. This is an old bug that even mozilla can't fix.
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
Rain
Date: September 06, 2018 02:09PM
Quote
roytam1
I'm afraid there is no solution. This is an old bug that even mozilla can't fix.
I see, well at least it's not that huge of a problem i just have to refresh the page every 30min.
PS
Thank you very much for all the hard work you've put in in giving us Goanna
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
anonymous
Date: September 06, 2018 02:29PM
@Rain
If flash is involved, there was a user who accepted a solution (link) for Firefox two years ago. You can post a link where this happens for others to test.
@roytam1
Something on bugzilla?
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
siria
Date: September 06, 2018 02:41PM
Quote
Rain
At every 25min of viewing/listening time the videos freeze/stop (the sound too).
Similar discussions, just much more detailed, but related engines:
https://msfn.org/board/topic/177125-my-build-of-new-moon-temp-name-aka-pale-moon-for-xp/?page=57
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
hermes
Date: September 06, 2018 03:00PM
@Rain
I used to have something like this, but I completely disabling all kinds of caching and use tricky traffic filtering helped and now there is no problem. Some types of caching cant be disabled through interface (not all).
pref("browser.cache.disk.enable", false);
pref("browser.cache.disk.capacity", 0);
pref("browser.cache.disk_cache_ssl", false);
pref("browser.cache.memory.enable", false);
pref("network.http.use-cache", false);
pref("media.cache_size", 0);
pref("browser.cache.offline.capacity", 0);
pref("browser.cache.offline.enable", false);
pref("extensions.getAddons.cache.enabled", false);
pref("browser.sessionstore.privacy_level", 2);
pref("browser.sessionstore.privacy_level_deferred", 2);
Checked on two BBC videos (40 minutes each) all worked without freezing. By the way, often after a certain time on YouTube exist embedded advertising (and incomplete blocking, which leads to attempts to run unavailable ad unit). Here it is necessary to block even a ping of a resource. Problem was relevant about six months ago, now everything works well.
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
Rain
Date: September 07, 2018 10:46AM
@hermes
Tried it (except for the last two, they didn't appear in options) same issue after 25min...
@anonymous
I haven't installed Flash Player since portable KM didn't seem to need it, am i wrong here? And in need of a portable flash file?
@siria
Bookmarked it and will read it this weekend. Thank you.
A little off topic, but is there a Goanna-like thread on the PM forums where roytam still releases XP versions of NM?
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
anonymous
Date: September 07, 2018 06:10PM
@Rain
Just make sure that about:addons -> Plugins shows nothing. XP SP3 test platform is available, but the link you used and the modified preference settings from about:support are still unknown.
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
Rain
Date: September 07, 2018 07:19PM
@anonymous
This is what i have:
I guess i can deactivate/uninstall them but i would keep the SumatraPDF plugin if possible.
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
anonymous
Date: September 08, 2018 12:42AM
@Rain
The entries in about:plugins should cause no problems. Need one of your YouTube links and the modified media related preference settings (if any) from about:support to start testing.
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
Rain
Date: September 09, 2018 08:55AM
You mean this?
Quote
{
"application": {
"name": "K-Meleon",
"osVersion": "Windows_NT 5.1",
"version": "76.0",
"buildID": "7600",
"userAgent": "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/3.4 Firefox/52.9 K-Meleon/76.0",
"safeMode": false,
"supportURL": "[url
https://support.mozilla.org/1/firefox/76.0/[/url]\"WINNT\"/en-US/",
"numTotalWindows": 3,
"numRemoteWindows": 0,
"remoteAutoStart": false
},
"experiments": [],
"modifiedPreferences": {
"browser.cache.disk.enable": false,
"browser.cache.disk_cache_ssl": false,
"browser.cache.memory.enable": false,
"browser.cache.offline.capacity": 0,
"browser.cache.offline.enable": false,
"browser.cache.disk.capacity": 0,
"dom.report_all_js_exceptions": true,
"extensions.lastAppVersion": "76.0",
"image.http.accept": "image/webp,image/jxr,image/png,image/*;q=0.8,*/*;q=0.5",
"media.cache_size": 0,
"network.cookie.prefsMigrated": true,
"network.http.use-cache": false,
"places.database.lastMaintenance": 1536343833,
"places.history.expiration.transient_current_max_pages": 26830,
"plugin.importedState": true,
"storage.vacuum.last.index": 1,
"storage.vacuum.last.places.sqlite": 1536254002
},
"lockedPreferences": {},
"graphics": {
"numTotalWindows": 3,
"numAcceleratedWindows": 0,
"windowLayerManagerType": "Basic",
"windowLayerManagerRemote": true,
"numAcceleratedWindowsMessage": [
""
],
"adapterDescription": "ATI Radeon HD 5570",
"adapterVendorID": "0x1002",
"adapterDeviceID": "0x68d9",
"adapterSubsysID": "22931787",
"adapterRAM": "Unknown",
"adapterDrivers": "ati2dvag",
"driverVersion": "8.920.0.0",
"driverDate": "11-9-2011",
"adapterDescription2": "",
"adapterVendorID2": "",
"adapterDeviceID2": "",
"adapterSubsysID2": "",
"adapterRAM2": "",
"adapterDrivers2": "",
"driverVersion2": "",
"driverDate2": "",
"isGPU2Active": false,
"direct2DEnabled": false,
"directWriteEnabled": false,
"directWriteVersion": "0.0.0.0",
"direct2DEnabledMessage": [
""
],
"webglRenderer": "Google Inc. -- ANGLE (ATI Radeon HD 5570 Direct3D9 vs_3_0 ps_3_0)",
"info": {
"AzureCanvasBackend": "skia",
"AzureSkiaAccelerated": 0,
"AzureFallbackCanvasBackend": "cairo",
"AzureContentBackend": "cairo"
}
},
"javaScript": {
"incrementalGCEnabled": true
},
"accessibility": {
"isActive": false,
"forceDisabled": 0
},
"libraryVersions": {
"NSPR": {
"minVersion": "4.19",
"version": "4.19"
},
"NSS": {
"minVersion": "3.36.4",
"version": "3.36.4"
},
"NSSUTIL": {
"minVersion": "3.36.4",
"version": "3.36.4"
},
"NSSSSL": {
"minVersion": "3.36.4",
"version": "3.36.4"
},
"NSSSMIME": {
"minVersion": "3.36.4",
"version": "3.36.4"
}
},
"userJS": {
"exists": true
},
"extensions": [
{
"name": "NewsFox",
"version": "1.0.9.1",
"isActive": true,
"id": "{899DF1F8-2F43-4394-8315-37F6744E6319}"
}
]
}]
I don't think theres any need to waste any more time on this. And ALL YouTube videos over 25min long freeze, no need for a particular link.
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
siria
Date: September 09, 2018 10:39AM
I think it's still worth a bit time, considering it's not only your prob, but a general one.
And this anonymous here has given some extremely helpful tips in the past too.
Quote
Rain
@hermes
Tried it (except for the last two, they didn't appear in options) same issue after 25min...
Would try those 2 as well, since Hermes says they are needed.
Just add them manually in about:config, right-click and create new...
Just because a pref doesn't appear in options or aboutconfig, doesn't mean anything at all: Lots of fundamental prefs are hidden this way from users! For example the global useragent override pref, or the pref for default-blocking of iframes (FB&twitter everywhere), for Ajax (XHR-pref), font-downloading, html5-videos (media) etc.
If unsure, just make a backup copy of current prefs.js in the current profile folder before testing.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/09/2018 10:49AM by siria.
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
Rain
Date: September 09, 2018 11:41AM
@siria
I've manually created the last two as you said (boolean has no numbers option so i made them string instead or should they be integer?)
EDIT: Same issue after adding those two. Freezez at 25.
I was not trying to imply that anonymous was not helpful. I just didn't want people to waste time on this if it was only important to me, but if we're all in the same pot, then sure, why not?
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
siria
Date: September 09, 2018 11:59AM
Yes it's certainly not just your own prob. Over at the msfn-forum it's been mentioned a couple times too.
If Hermes block-all-caching trick can help, then most people who do want caching probably won't use it, but if it's really annoying the them this group of prefs could be toggled all together in a little macro (just which GUI? keyboard shortcut? button? menu?)
Quote
Hermes
pref("browser.sessionstore.privacy_level", 2);
pref("browser.sessionstore.privacy_level_deferred", 2);
Quote
Rain
I've manually created the last two as you said (boolean has no numbers option so i made them string instead or should they be integer?)
If the values are not in "quotes" at the end of the pref lines, then they are pure number prefs, yes that means INT (=only whole numbers possible, no commas or dots, can have a minus)
How to change: right-click in about:config to "reset" them, close tab, open it again, and create prefs again as INT
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
Rain
Date: September 10, 2018 07:42PM
Back again. Downloaded the latest version of Goanna and did all that hermes and you instructed me to do, the result is the same... The picture freezez at 25 and sound dies out 3-4 min later.
I mostly need this fixed so that i can listen to longer soundtracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjM9mFy22ks
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
siria
Date: September 10, 2018 08:42PM
On a side note about videos, not necessarily related to that youtube prob, but something that surprised me mighty the last days:
1) A KM76 or Goanna (?) user tried to get rid of plugin-container for videos. He disabled not only all ipc-prefs, but it sounded like he even deleted the plugin-container.exe completely, as was described in a tech article. Yet, that thing still DID run, although it didn't exist anymore, and all other things he tried didn't help a thing either. Then he found a solution:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?1,147592,147621#msg-147621
Quote
Shiro
I solved the problem imself
When i uninstall firefox completely k-meleon stop running the plugin
2) A user of NewMoon (Goanna-engine like KM) had trouble getting Netflix to play on XP. Had something to do with Netflix dropping silverlight and now needing DRM, which is not a native part of Goanna. At the msfn-forum they gave him lots of tips and instructions etc. Finally he got it running again, in Firefox. But:
https://msfn.org/board/topic/177768-netflix-playback/
Quote
WoodyXP
Well good news! I retried all my previous fixes. Then tried Firefox like you suggested and got Netflix working again. The funny part is that now Netflix works on Mypal and New Moon as well. Go Figure!
Conclusion:
It's not only KM-settings and KM-plugins which matter, but also the settings and plugins in the Firefox appdata and userdata! Which KM seems to silently use too. I can already see the replies about how this would go without saying, nothing surprising... But it certainly was a huge surprise to me! Especially the first case, where Shiro had clearly disabled all the prefs in KM, yet the browser simply ignored that and borrowed the exe from neighbor Firefox!
So we have to consider now, when someone has a prob in KM, and another user has it not, the root of this difference might just be different Firefox plugins.
Regarding youtube, could it be that perhaps this messageChannel thing is somehow involved? Just a wild idea, because both probs were said to occur in Firefox only. Or some other privacy setting. Or perhaps that SSD-killer pref in FF, which caused already other video probs? (browser.sessionstore.interval=300000)
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
anonymous
Date: September 11, 2018 12:34PM
@Rain
Tested on some XP setups and can confirm what you found out.
@roytam1
Not related, but Screen-saver started when testing, because patch for BUG 1193610 is missing.
@siria
This is only about XP. How's your YouTube playback on 9x?
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
Rain
Date: September 14, 2018 06:01PM
Quote
Rain
A little off topic, but is there a Goanna-like thread on the PM forums where roytam still releases XP versions of NM?
Are these the official sites where roytam hosts/updates his XP releases of NM?
https://msfn.org/board/topic/177125-my-build-of-new-moon-temp-name-aka-pale-moon-for-xp/
http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/search/label/browser
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
siria
Date: September 16, 2018 12:23PM
Quote
Rain
Are these the official sites where roytam hosts/updates his XP releases of NM?
https://msfn.org/board/topic/177125-my-build-of-new-moon-temp-name-aka-pale-moon-for-xp/
http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/search/label/browser
Yes. And for quick update checking you can even jump directly to his download links, for example KM-Goanna: https://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/
@anonymous:
Sorry but have long since given up trying to watch youtube directly, just not enough resources after they killed flash. Although html5 videos do start in Opera12.02 and KM74-goanna, but the frames load extremely slow, stammering and stuttering, 1 frame every few seconds... But downloading the mp4's with some web service (e.g. qdownloader.net) and then watching local still works great.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/16/2018 12:25PM by siria.
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
anonymous
Date: September 16, 2018 09:04PM
@siria
Never tested your KM74-g22, but YouTube should send VP8 files and no MP4 files for that browser. Acceleration is disabled because Gecko blacklists all old video drivers. We add exceptions for our drivers in forks. In one of the XP test setups, the freeze after 25 minutes test dropped frames and looked greenish in KM, before I added ffmpeg files.
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
siria
Date: September 16, 2018 11:17PM
Quote
anonymous
Never tested your KM74-g22, but YouTube should send VP8 files and no MP4 files for that browser. Acceleration is disabled because Gecko blacklists all old video drivers. We add exceptions for our drivers in forks. In one of the XP test setups, the freeze after 25 minutes test dropped frames and looked greenish in KM, before I added ffmpeg files.
Hmm, I suppose you're not explaining this mainly to me (slightly over my head again, and KMG74 way to crashy anyway), but in the hopes that other interested people can use it better.
But while you're here, please take a look over there too? :cool:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?2,146871
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
Rain
Date: September 17, 2018 07:09PM
I'm gueesing it's related since podcast players seem to suffer from the same issue as mentioned in this thread. Just in case this info is of any use to someone.
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
anonymous
Date: September 17, 2018 08:01PM
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@siria
Who else has used KM74-g22 on 9x more than once? It is crashy on 9x, because it contains a KM for W2K+.
About your teeny tiny addon:
Extract some unused xpi-addons from your collection. Search for string 'appstartup' in js-files in components folder. Pick the smallest XPI-file that works in KM. Add the UA init lines to the end of appstartup function. Test it.
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
siria
Date: September 17, 2018 08:35PM
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Rain
I'm using:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/3.4 Firefox/52.9 K-Meleon/76.0
(portable) on XP Pro SP3.
It doesn't help for this 23min-prob, just as general info:
There have been several user reports already that some major websites (twitter, youtube etc.) have started boycotting XP. Especially video/media related, either they don't play at all or are stammering, and the websites will not tell you they do this intentionally. But users have reported that quite often those probs go away if they simply spoof their system in the useragent!
If you want to try it, you can for example copy your original string above and replace NT 5.1 with NT 6.1 (Win7)
If you don't know how, use either a macro like useragents2018 or open about:config, right-click and create that pref manually:
general.useragent.override = Mozilla.... (STRING)
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anonymous
Who else has used KM74-g22 on 9x more than once? It is crashy on 9x, because it contains a KM for W2K+.
Yes of course, but same goes for KM1.6, which is even for XP+, yet works quite stable
Not from the beginning either, it took awhile, but there's hope it can be done. Other people have tried KMG74 over at the MSFN forum too, and it gets clearer that the main probs are caused by slightly buggy KernelEx update v17. But now that's finally in the works again. And my hopes are rising again
Will try again with the UA-site-init addon, just will take a lot of time searching around again for fitting examples.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/17/2018 08:38PM by siria.
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
anonymous
Date: September 17, 2018 10:39PM
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@siria
It works if added to refcontrol and KM 1.6 still used multibyte.
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
siria
Date: September 27, 2018 10:12PM
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anonymous
Acceleration is disabled because Gecko blacklists all old video drivers. We add exceptions for our drivers in forks. In one of the XP test setups, the freeze after 25 minutes test dropped frames and looked greenish in KM, before I added ffmpeg files.
Not sure what that means exactly:
adding ffmpeg files fixes that 23min bug...?
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
anonymous
Date: September 28, 2018 05:50AM
@siria
No. Adding ffmpeg filters fixed lost frames and greenish playback with lav filters using blacklisted Intel graphics drivers. It was just one of the hardware setups I used to confirm freezing.
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
giro1991
Date: October 28, 2018 09:10PM
An easy workaround for the 23min bug I found was to just hit RIGHT ARROW once when it happens.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/28/2018 09:11PM by giro1991.
Re: YouTube videos always freeze after 25min of viewing (Goanna)
Posted by:
rodocop
Date: October 28, 2018 11:55PM
Confirming both the 23m-bug itself and right-arrow solution (you should have the focus on the video frame to work)
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