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Bookmarks finally.
Posted by:
Bernard Mercier
Date: November 23, 2001 07:11PM
Having seen no guidance on the bookmark problem I raised, I decided to uninstall 0.6 and reinstall it.
I followed the same steps as before. No IE bookmarks, only NS bookmarks to be imported. I indicated the directory where the Mozilla bookmarks are and install finished.
To my surprise I have now bookmarks.
Dunno what went wrong on the first time install.
I changed some bookmark and I got indeed the question, whether or not I wanted to save the bookmark file.
I replied to save, and I find myself now with a 169k bookmark file in stead of the original 185k one.
Yes I know it's probably due to the limit K-meleon has on bookmarks.
And yes I did backup the original bookmark file.
So in view of this I have following remarks:
1 - the open bookmarks function should have warned me, that I am exceeding the limit.
2 - the save window should have mentioned (like Windows does) that I wanted to replace bookmarks.html ar xxx bytes of yyyy date with www bytes and zzz date.
I was warned then thet I wanted to overwrite my 185k bookmarks file with a 169k one.
3 - K-meleon should have backed up the Mozilla bookmarks file first.
4 - In fact it is not a good practice to use another programs data unless the program is out of beta and every aspect is tested fully in order not to corrupt the other pragram's data file(s).
5 - It would have been better to have an import facility, and create a bookmarks file within K-meleon's directory structure and work with that one.
6 - It would have been an added value if in this case K-meleon provided a synchronize function.
I give this remarks, as I find that K-meleon is worthwhile to be successful.
Bernard
Re: Bookmarks finally.
Posted by:
Jeff
Date: November 23, 2001 07:53PM
The difference is probably in the manner that kmeleon stores bookmark entries. Netscape more than just the URL (times accessed, etc), while K-Meleon doesn't.
Brian has done most of the bookmark code, so I'm not sure, but I think it does prompt you if your bookmark limit has been exceeded and will not overwrite the file in that case. Try viewing both the NS and the K-Meleon bookmark files to see if your entries are all there.
-- Jeff
Re: Bookmarks finally.
Posted by:
Bernard Mercier
Date: November 23, 2001 09:11PM
I loaded both files in K-meleon's windows and indeed I have no loss of the url.
Then I checked with notepad for differences and indeed Mozilla stores more info lik last modified and las used character set or somthing alike.
That explain's the difference in size.
But in fact you give me an extra argument to say that K-meleon may not alter another program's data file, if it don't excactly replicate and respect the internal data structure.
I hope changes will be made in that sense to the bookmark part.
Bernard
Re: Bookmarks finally.
Posted by:
Brian
Date: November 24, 2001 07:13AM
I'm very glad you got the bookmarks working finally.
I don't know if it was in 0.6 or not, but in the most recent version of the bookmark plugin, it does preserve all the information in the bookmarks (even though it doesn't use it). also, k-meleon *always* asks before it overwrites the old file, so there is no danger of k-meleon just wiping away mozilla's bookmarks (unless you hit yes, in which case it's your own fault). K-Meleon doesn't have to use mozilla/netscape's bookmarks, it can have it's own file if you want. simply tell it "no" when it asks to locate the bookmarks, or if you already installed, go to bookmarks->config and change the bookmarks file location.
Re: Bookmarks finally.
Posted by:
Bernard Mercier
Date: November 24, 2001 09:48AM
Brian,
Having more then one program using the same data file (in this case the bookmarks) isn't a bad idea, but each program should respect the structure.
I am using 0.6 and the info isn't preserved. Maybe you use a newer not yet published version. Hope I will see this solved in 0.7. (as well as the limit of 1400)
Bernard