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What K-Meleon version are you using?
1) This problems happend for your olds Win95 libraries (dll's).
Please read
FAQ requeriments for Win9x OS.
2) I think that it's the same problem that 1 old Win95 OS with old libraries (dll's).
As I said, I've got the latest K-Meleon (1.5.1), and the system is freshly installed. I've installed all the libraries they ask, and all the updates I've managed to find, which, since Microft cut-off windowsupdate for the Windows 95 OS, it's way harder to do.
So if someone could help with this I would greatly appreciete it.
The only idea I've got about it would be updating to a higher MS Explorer (5.5 it's the last for Windows 95). I've already installed Office 2000, also the latest Office for Win95, wich adds IE5.0 and it hadn't fixed it. I hope to find the update than fix it and then send the reditributable or dll than fixes it to be added at the FAQ,
Telling me to use Win98 so I've installed the toolbar DLLs of IE6 does not
fix the issue and goes against the spirit of K-Meleon, a lighter and smaller but fully compatible browser to run in old / underpowered systems.
After all, GMail works well in IE6 too, so I could just tell the developers to mark Win95 as unsupported and leave it be. Remember, IE 5.0 may be slower but
works fine in both issues. It doesn't hang and it's toolbar works fine.
The issue could range from an incompatibility of my video card drivers with the graphical effect of the toolbar, to the suspected dll-hell frack-up. But I think it could be fixed compiling the nest version with an older compiler, or against the floating toolbars of IE 3.0 (so it would work on Win95 straight out-of-the-box), or IE 4.0 and add the redist for it. Unluckily, I don't own another video card (well, another old enought so I can plug it on this motherboard, AGP 2x cards only), so I could test the formar case.
That's why I'm asking here: so we can guess if it's a genuine bug or a 'feature'
, and if it could be fixed on a later version, or it is too much work for little gain. Anyway, the browser still works even if you must restart it from time to time, and the first point is just a cosmetic issue.
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3) This accelerators (both) aren't used by K-Meleon lastest versions.
I'm using spanish keyboard and spanish Windows OS and never have this problem.
Well, I'm using the latest version, and Spanish OS and keyboard, and I've the problem. Just go to the menu bar and open /Ver/Zoom/, and you will see /Aumentar zoom sobre la página Ctrl+Alt++/. The accelerator IS there.
Since you aren't telling me if you are answering me from Spain or any south-american country, I'm going to throw a shoot in the dark as a possible cause and say this:
1. In many of those countries, they use a 'International spanish keyboard distribution', which does have the {+} and {-} keys on the numbers' row, like the US|English keyboards. In the 'Traditional Spanish keyboard distribution' commonly used in Spain, {+} is in the second row of keys, next to the keyboard, and the {AltGr} combination produces the right|closing square bracket, The {-} it's next to the right shift key, and doesn't have a third form, therefore it doesn't present this problem. So, if you are using Windows 9x and those keyboard distributions, it may not be an issue to
you, but it may be to others.
2. You are NOT using any Win9x. Instead you are using Win2k or superior, or any modern Unix/Linux which doesn't have this problem (my XP machine also doesn't have it). Those OSes do implement accelerators correctly, so the program doesn't have to rely on ther workaround I mentioned in my previous posts (workaround than existed since MSDOS).
3. You are using a USB or multimedia keyboard. The drivers provided for them in Windows 98, or the ones installed with the hardware also have the issue fixed, so the multimedia keys can work right. I'm tring to find a driver of one of those for Win95 to try to fix the issue. If I do succeed I wlii post it here, but IF it is result of intrinsec DOS/Win95 behaviour, I won't be able to do so. so implementing the workarround should be proposed, eighter in the code, or in the accel.cfg.
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4) You can close tabs with middle click, i think that this method is better than a close button for each tab, but if you like it you can set it in last 1.5.1 version.
If tou reread my post you will see how I had done that already. My question was: On Windows 95, the middle button and the wheel are usually ignored by the default mouse driver so no problem there. I use the right click on the toolbar to open a new tab.
The problem was is that sometimes I left-doubleclick witout meaning it when choosing a tab, and don't want to trigger any of the options (new, close, open/close and popup menu). In the user.js those are encoded respectively as number 1, 0, 3 and 2. I want to do neiter of those, so i've edited it and put the value 4 to the double click action, wich makes it do nothing, just as I want. Still, I'm saying that the 'Do nothing' should appear on the preferences dialog instead of relying on a hack.
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I don't agree with you. I'm use since a lot of time Win9x OS and Win98SE is better than Win95.
I run old K-Meleon versions with out problems in Win98SE with IE6. (All in spanish)
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Also you can search in the internet for your old sound card drivers, there are a lot of web pages with old win9x drivers.
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The Win98 installed size is similar to Win95, about 200/250 MB (I think remember).
I have installed in my old computer: Pentium I 200 MHz with a 2 GB disk and memory 256 MB.
It is not about footprint or soundcards. I remember using it on a Pentium 133 and 128MB just fine. And the integrated drivers for the Soundblaster 16 ISA work just fine for me. There are two reasons for it.
First. The thing it is that I manged to salvage a OLD isa data adquisition card. You know, one of those things that you can use to operate/monitor automatons. I'vent managed to find a brand or anything, and only have a couple of floppies with drivers and compilation libraries on Dos/Windows 3.1. Since I heve no documentation and the DOS compiler was non standard, and I don't have it eigther, I though of using the Win3.1 libraries wich
seem to be for a Borland compiler. If not i will end throwing it away. But I won't update then.
The second reson and the most important is that I do NOT own one. Specially on a forum of an Open Source and Free program, one shouldn't recomend pirated software. And if I repair it enought to use it as a browsing machine / info quiosk at my job, I don't want to have an inspector crucifying my boss because I wasn't using legal software, when I just bought 2 Win95 OEM licenses, the booklets still covered in plastic, paying 10 euros in a junk shop. We already had one of those thanks to my bosses in one of my old jobs.
And... I'm ranting at you and you are not to blame. I'm very, VERY, sorry about the rant, but after half an hour to write and translate it, i'm not rewriting it any.
Please, don't take it as anything against you.
And if anyone can help, thank in advance.