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When I recommend kmeleon, people enter to this page and says:
Whats this??¿?, I don't have time to waist, bye bye!
and maybe they are loosing one of the best things they could ever do in internet life, installing kmeleon.
I love kmeleon, is superfast, light and solid as a rock.
but is a pitty that this old boring homepage kills an excellent project as kmeleon is.
Please, put some nice screenshots in the front page, make then know that this is a browser!! Make people want to install it! Place a huge nice download button, as every browser homepage does.
Greatings
The only Home page I am aware of is
[http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/]
What is the exact URL of the page to which you allude.
Charlie
~~If it ain't broke, why screw it up?~~
kmeleon.sourceforge.net is not very inviting. Too many details that few people care about, not enough emphasis on the things that really matter. Making every other word a light blue link on a white background doesn't really help either: the homepage doesn't need to look like a Wikipedia entry.
The current homepage sort of screams: "K-Meleon is a tool for geeks who code HTML in Notepad and navigate their overclocked computers through the command line." That's not the way to attract new users who just want to doubleclick something and have it work without having to bother with all sorts of minor details.
Let's take the opening paragraph:
K-Meleon is an extremely fast, customizable, lightweight web browser for the Win32 (Windows) platform based on the Gecko layout engine (the rendering engine of Mozilla). K-Meleon is free, open source software released under the GNU General Public License.
"Fast," "customisable," and "lightweight" is what makes K-Meleon an attractive browser, so these three words needs to be big, bold, and clear.
"Win32," "Gecko," and "GNU" is stuff for in a footnote at the bottom of page 6. Some people care about these things, most people don't.
Second paragraph:
You may read through the list of Features available in K-Meleon before you Download the latest release version to try it out. You can also see some Screenshots first if you want to know what K-Meleon looks like.
"Latest release version?" As if a first time user cares about older releases or experimental beta versions. A link to the latest version that works, that's more than enough for the homepage.
A "list of features" that requires me to click away from the main page? Can't we replace this with a short description of the two or three unique selling points, illustrate this with one or two (thumbnails that link to some) screenshots? Let's put a link to the full list of features in the navigation bar on the left side of the page, and add a big bright button to open the download page instead of that tiny link that's easily overlooked in between all those other, similarly formatted links.
Third:
The latest information on K-Meleon's development is found in the News section. Other news, including links to external articles and reviews of K-Meleon can be found at the PressCenter.
A link to the news section and press center in the navigation strip will suffice. The third paragraph can be removed from the landing page.
The rest of the homepage can be streamlined in a similar way. A single paragraph, a thumbnail of a screenshot or two, a couple of keywords that are not buried in lengthy sentences, and a large button that leaves no doubt about where to click to get to the download page.
My vote is for "K-Meleon is a tool for geeks who code HTML in Notepad and navigate their overclocked computers through the command line."
I like K-Meleon as tool for GEEKS.
(Really not for geeks else for people that know read and read, not look beatiful images and ask about all in forum without read Documentation first)
K-Meleon in Spanish
It's all about conveying information. Who wants to waste time and file-space loading junk. KM isn't trying to attract buyer's. So why build a forest where there are no trees? Bells and whistles are for Povlov's dogs and flashing lights for cop's.
Charlie
~~If it ain't broke, why screw it up?~~
What is the more important: appearance or efficiency ?
A+
Mozilla/5.0 (x11; U; Linux x86_64; fr-FR; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Ubuntu/12.04 K-Meleon/76.0
Web: http://jujuland.pagesperso-orange.fr/
Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr
Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc
K-Meleons's homepage is not at all efficient.
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make windows xp behave
That's obvious. We just need someone to do it.
Would this be a good start?
k-meleon_homezip: http://ifile.it/3852tgk
________________________________
make windows xp behave
Yes! and we put some funny image as this at right side of text:
Image made with PhotoShape Classic 1.1 (Freeware)
K-Meleon in Spanish
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/27/2008 12:48AM by desga2.
I think we need to be a bit more creative here
I don't think those using-Internet Explorer kind of people would be able to cope with K-Meleon. K-Meleon is a browser for more advanced users. Maybe try introducing them to Firefox first?
Everyone can use K-M. There's no need to attack all those config files with a text editor if you don't want to.
________________________________
make windows xp behave
i agree with this. i like this web browser. i found it from a review on open source web browsers. i didnt think much of it from the homepage, but it has been proven to be very useful. i dont take the time to edit config files or attack macros and command lines. it would be nice if there was a quick help shortcut keys guide included with it though. i never new middle click will close a tab. i recently found out that double clicking closes the tab. this makes things easiear. open last layers is also nice. or ctrl-g to search. this brouser has many uses.
Kmeleon for geeks only?????
Kmeleon browser is ready for the masses!
We could have a S3xy K-M Screenshot Contest. i won't enter, my weblizard is too geeky.
The biggest problem is, only a small percentage of the surfing public is capable of dealing with an unfamiliar interface. They have no idea what they are doing, don't know what is in their own computers.
A few days ago, someone asked me how she got into "this page" when she opened Yahoo to get her e-mail. Well...there was an Excel file on the desktop (it was her husband's computer) named Yahoo_something - or - other. She hit it because it said Yahoo.
When people tell me that they "can't get on the Internet" I have to go through a long question and answer session to find out what they mean by that. Usually it is not a connection problem, they just can't find the shortcut to Internet Explorer.
It's sad, but they are never going to use K-Meleon. Jazzing up the home page won't help that.
It is simple, you install them K-Meleon and they will use it. They will use anything you give them and to be honest, why should it be more difficult to get used with K-M then with any other browser? It is just a matter of with which you have first contact.
Eugen
I'm going to make a post with a different twist that people aren't looking at...
When I have made content, which can be used for the website, or other content, who can I contact?
It's a bit too difficult to find a contact to send stuff to, especially when it doesn't fit in a specific catogory named on the website (like skins).
I have never tried but PPL that have a K-Meleon bug tracker account seem to be able to write in the wiki.
Forum posts show real contact mail for some PPL / some posts refer to wiki pages where they posted info such as macros (- I am certain that e.g. alain can write in the wiki ( if You find no other way contact one that has posted in wiki ).
Greeting to beautiful .NL from .DE
Use this forum to talk about a feature you're missing.
What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
Kubiak
Date: April 18, 2008 02:55AM
When I recommend kmeleon, people enter to this page and says:
Whats this??¿?, I don't have time to waist, bye bye!
and maybe they are loosing one of the best things they could ever do in internet life, installing kmeleon.
I love kmeleon, is superfast, light and solid as a rock.
but is a pitty that this old boring homepage kills an excellent project as kmeleon is.
Please, put some nice screenshots in the front page, make then know that this is a browser!! Make people want to install it! Place a huge nice download button, as every browser homepage does.
Greatings
Re: What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
caktus
Date: April 18, 2008 08:22PM
Quote
Kubiak
people enter to this page and says:
Whats this??¿?, I don't have time to waist, bye bye!
The only Home page I am aware of is
[http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/]
What is the exact URL of the page to which you allude.
Charlie
Re: What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
666
Date: April 21, 2008 06:54PM
kmeleon.sourceforge.net is not very inviting. Too many details that few people care about, not enough emphasis on the things that really matter. Making every other word a light blue link on a white background doesn't really help either: the homepage doesn't need to look like a Wikipedia entry.
The current homepage sort of screams: "K-Meleon is a tool for geeks who code HTML in Notepad and navigate their overclocked computers through the command line." That's not the way to attract new users who just want to doubleclick something and have it work without having to bother with all sorts of minor details.
Let's take the opening paragraph:
K-Meleon is an extremely fast, customizable, lightweight web browser for the Win32 (Windows) platform based on the Gecko layout engine (the rendering engine of Mozilla). K-Meleon is free, open source software released under the GNU General Public License.
"Fast," "customisable," and "lightweight" is what makes K-Meleon an attractive browser, so these three words needs to be big, bold, and clear.
"Win32," "Gecko," and "GNU" is stuff for in a footnote at the bottom of page 6. Some people care about these things, most people don't.
Second paragraph:
You may read through the list of Features available in K-Meleon before you Download the latest release version to try it out. You can also see some Screenshots first if you want to know what K-Meleon looks like.
"Latest release version?" As if a first time user cares about older releases or experimental beta versions. A link to the latest version that works, that's more than enough for the homepage.
A "list of features" that requires me to click away from the main page? Can't we replace this with a short description of the two or three unique selling points, illustrate this with one or two (thumbnails that link to some) screenshots? Let's put a link to the full list of features in the navigation bar on the left side of the page, and add a big bright button to open the download page instead of that tiny link that's easily overlooked in between all those other, similarly formatted links.
Third:
The latest information on K-Meleon's development is found in the News section. Other news, including links to external articles and reviews of K-Meleon can be found at the PressCenter.
A link to the news section and press center in the navigation strip will suffice. The third paragraph can be removed from the landing page.
The rest of the homepage can be streamlined in a similar way. A single paragraph, a thumbnail of a screenshot or two, a couple of keywords that are not buried in lengthy sentences, and a large button that leaves no doubt about where to click to get to the download page.
Re: What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
desga2
Date: April 21, 2008 08:41PM
My vote is for "K-Meleon is a tool for geeks who code HTML in Notepad and navigate their overclocked computers through the command line."
I like K-Meleon as tool for GEEKS.
(Really not for geeks else for people that know read and read, not look beatiful images and ask about all in forum without read Documentation first)
K-Meleon in SpanishRe: What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
caktus
Date: April 21, 2008 09:41PM
It's all about conveying information. Who wants to waste time and file-space loading junk. KM isn't trying to attract buyer's. So why build a forest where there are no trees? Bells and whistles are for Povlov's dogs and flashing lights for cop's.
Charlie
Re: What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
JujuLand
Date: April 22, 2008 07:03AM
Quote
My vote is for "K-Meleon is a tool for geeks who code HTML in Notepad and navigate their overclocked computers through the command line."
What is the more important: appearance or efficiency ?
A+
Mozilla/5.0 (x11; U; Linux x86_64; fr-FR; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Ubuntu/12.04 K-Meleon/76.0
Web: http://jujuland.pagesperso-orange.fr/
Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr
Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc
Re: What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
666
Date: April 23, 2008 05:04PM
K-Meleons's homepage is not at all efficient.
________________________________
make windows xp behave
Re: What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
Dorian
Date: April 26, 2008 06:11PM
That's obvious. We just need someone to do it.
Re: What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
666
Date: April 26, 2008 10:06PM
Would this be a good start?
k-meleon_homezip: http://ifile.it/3852tgk
________________________________
make windows xp behave
Re: What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
desga2
Date: April 27, 2008 12:42AM
Yes! and we put some funny image as this at right side of text:
Image made with PhotoShape Classic 1.1 (Freeware)
K-Meleon in SpanishEdited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/27/2008 12:48AM by desga2.
Re: What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
Dorian
Date: May 01, 2008 08:45AM
I think we need to be a bit more creative here
Re: What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
Unnamed
Date: May 01, 2008 03:29PM
Quote
When I recommend kmeleon, people enter to this page and says:
Whats this??¿?, I don't have time to waist, bye bye!
I don't think those using-Internet Explorer kind of people would be able to cope with K-Meleon. K-Meleon is a browser for more advanced users. Maybe try introducing them to Firefox first?
Re: What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
666
Date: May 09, 2008 06:40AM
Everyone can use K-M. There's no need to attack all those config files with a text editor if you don't want to.
________________________________
make windows xp behave
Re: What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
bob dole
Date: May 09, 2008 10:12PM
Quote
666
Everyone can use K-M. There's no need to attack all those config files with a text editor if you don't want to.
i agree with this. i like this web browser. i found it from a review on open source web browsers. i didnt think much of it from the homepage, but it has been proven to be very useful. i dont take the time to edit config files or attack macros and command lines. it would be nice if there was a quick help shortcut keys guide included with it though. i never new middle click will close a tab. i recently found out that double clicking closes the tab. this makes things easiear. open last layers is also nice. or ctrl-g to search. this brouser has many uses.
Re: What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
Tom
Date: May 10, 2008 10:30PM
Kmeleon for geeks only?????
Kmeleon browser is ready for the masses!
Re: What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
Arual the Wyrd
Date: June 28, 2008 03:15AM
We could have a S3xy K-M Screenshot Contest. i won't enter, my weblizard is too geeky.
The biggest problem is, only a small percentage of the surfing public is capable of dealing with an unfamiliar interface. They have no idea what they are doing, don't know what is in their own computers.
A few days ago, someone asked me how she got into "this page" when she opened Yahoo to get her e-mail. Well...there was an Excel file on the desktop (it was her husband's computer) named Yahoo_something - or - other. She hit it because it said Yahoo.
When people tell me that they "can't get on the Internet" I have to go through a long question and answer session to find out what they mean by that. Usually it is not a connection problem, they just can't find the shortcut to Internet Explorer.
It's sad, but they are never going to use K-Meleon. Jazzing up the home page won't help that.
Re: What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
Eugen Mezei
Date: July 11, 2008 02:07PM
It is simple, you install them K-Meleon and they will use it. They will use anything you give them and to be honest, why should it be more difficult to get used with K-M then with any other browser? It is just a matter of with which you have first contact.
Eugen
Re: What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
DasFox
Date: July 31, 2008 02:44AM
I'm going to make a post with a different twist that people aren't looking at...
Re: What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
datiswous
Date: August 12, 2008 10:37AM
When I have made content, which can be used for the website, or other content, who can I contact?
It's a bit too difficult to find a contact to send stuff to, especially when it doesn't fit in a specific catogory named on the website (like skins).
Re: What kills kmeleon is this old homepage.
Posted by:
guenter
Date: August 13, 2008 02:11AM
I have never tried but PPL that have a K-Meleon bug tracker account seem to be able to write in the wiki.
Forum posts show real contact mail for some PPL / some posts refer to wiki pages where they posted info such as macros (- I am certain that e.g. alain can write in the wiki ( if You find no other way contact one that has posted in wiki ).
Greeting to beautiful .NL from .DE
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