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multiple browser windows why?
Posted by: Xiadix
Date: February 20, 2001 04:37PM

Why worry about adding tabbed multiple browser windows? I though we were going for little or no bloat?

Xiadix

BTW, I want to give my thanks to the orginal and the succeding developers. I love what you have done so far.

Xia

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RE: multiple browser windows why?
Posted by: Sebastian Späth
Date: February 20, 2001 09:51PM

The reason why Opera had the tabbed windows is because of resource savings. While every new Netscape Window was spawning a nwe instance, the Opera way, saved some resources be reusing them. So it it not necessarily bloat to add this feature.

Nothing is however decided and we just want to get a feeling for the browsing habits of potential K-Meleon users. I guess we might publish a couple of questions on this site once in a while to get a feeling for what you actually want most. This might help preventing bloat by *not* implementing not needed features.

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RE: multiple browser windows why?
Posted by: scratch
Date: February 21, 2001 01:44AM

No, each netscape window is not a separate instance. They are all the same instance, just separate windows. M$IE has an option to start a separate instance for each window, but that eats a ton of memory, and isn't necessary if you have a stable product (the only advantage is that then when one window crashes the others stay open).

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RE: multiple browser windows why?
Posted by: Eldeis
Date: February 21, 2001 03:37AM

why can't you have both options be implemented, and each user can decide for themself?

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RE: multiple browser windows why?
Posted by: Eldeis
Date: February 21, 2001 03:40AM

why not implement both and let the user decide which to use through the preference menu?

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RE: multiple browser windows why?
Posted by: Barcode
Date: February 21, 2001 05:05AM

If you go with the Netscape or Opera model, you have the problem of one window crashing and taking everything else with it. When I use Netscape (not often) it sometimes crashes and *every* Netscape window open goes bye-bye. With IE, at least there is an option of launching in a new process. And let's face it.. if it's running on Windows, (in most cases) it could be more stable.

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RE: multiple browser windows why?
Posted by: Eldeis
Date: February 22, 2001 01:56AM

opera has the option to recover from a crash

kmeleon should also

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RE: multiple browser windows why?
Posted by: Pawson
Date: February 24, 2001 10:07AM

If there is any feature that would make me NOT use K-Meleon, it would be the use of the same window interface as Opera. I simply can't stand that method.


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RE: multiple browser windows why?
Posted by: KINJIRU
Date: March 18, 2001 07:15AM


While i *DO* like Opera (heck, it's all i can trust with Netscape so
bloated and IE's stupid bookmark handling method), i can
understand why some folks would be a bit out-there when it
comes to the use of multiple panels/panes. It took me a bit to get
used to also (and i've been "In this" for more years than i care to
count) it might make for a nice feature for those who would
rather use panes than spawn new browser windows, but it
would be NICE if you could elect to have a pane "OUTSIDE" the
main panel (so you could minimize the others with 1 click while
still keeping the point of focus active/maximized).

PLEASE GET RID OF THE I.E. WAY OF HANDLING
BOOKMARKS THOUGH!!! THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING! IT
WASTES SPACE AND IS *FAR* FROM EFFICIENT!

That's the ONLY thing that had me use Netscape over IE to this
day: The bookmarks. Netscape had it right by making 1 file with
*ALL* your bookmarks in it. Microsnot is so used to bloating
everything they make that even their method of saving bookmarks
and favorites is all boinked up to heck with stupidity. :<


Dr. B. KINJIRU


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RE: multiple browser windows why?
Posted by: Sebastian Späth
Date: March 18, 2001 09:25AM

"...but it would be NICE if you could elect to have a pane "OUTSIDE" the
main panel (so you could minimize the others with 1 click while
still keeping the point of focus active/maximized). "

Isn't this the Windows Taskbar you describe? That is my "click between browser window area"

As for the bookmarks. They are implemented as plugin and you can get totally rid of them. A Nestscape bookmark plugin is planned and on the way...

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RE: multiple browser windows why?
Posted by: Rob
Date: March 25, 2001 06:32AM

I think you shouldn't do what Opera has done, I like using alt-tab to switch, think making k-meleon would annoy me more than improve things.

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RE: multiple browser windows why?
Posted by: KINJIRU
Date: March 26, 2001 08:18AM

"As for the bookmarks. They are implemented as plugin and you
can get totally rid of them. A Nestscape bookmark plugin is
planned and on the way..."

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMEN!!!

You sold me, Sebastian!!! Time to download!!!

Dr. B. Kinjiru


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