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Re: K-Meleon 74.0 Final Release (gre 24.7)
Posted by: George Hall
Date: October 21, 2014 12:36AM

You do not nned to add speedial to K-Meleon 74. Yo can have it with the two extensions below.

There is a Speed Dial http://kmext.sourceforge.net/extensions/speeddial.7z extension which creates a homepage with 12 websites with thumbnails at K-Meleon Extensions Central.

Another extension multipagine4 NT http://kmext.sourceforge.net/extensions/multipagine4-NT.7z | multipagine4 9x http://kmext.sourceforge.net/extensions/multipagine4-9x.7z| which is similar to Speed Dila however the thimbnails are generated locally. Also it supports upto 18 pages.

Adding it speed diak to k-Meleon 74 is making mork than we need to when their are some extensions simiilar to Speed Dial.

Re: K-Meleon 74.0 Final Release (gre 24.7)
Posted by: guenter
Date: October 21, 2014 03:38AM

Quote
Meroveus
Great work!

My wishlist.

1) Speeddial
2) Clone Tab support in tab menu
3) Firefox Sync (password sync, history etc) support
4) Fully integrated Adblock with all feautures

then this done, K-meleon will be the browser of my dreams...

2.) Work around under F2.
3.) Is this an addon? Most that do not require XUL GUI support work.

I do not care what Your nightmares and dreams are - as long as I like it.

Re: K-Meleon 74.0 Final Release (gre 24.7)
Posted by: JamesD
Date: October 21, 2014 04:11AM

I do not understand what is meant by "clone tab support".

Re: K-Meleon 74.0 Final Release (gre 24.7)
Posted by: siria
Date: October 21, 2014 04:15AM

2) Clone Tab

Am not completely sure if that is what you mean, but click Edit > Configuration > Menus
then insert those lines, save and restart:

!New{
Clone Tab=macros(Go_New)
}

Note, this works only if this is the currently active tab.
Note-2: This is just a copy of the native function which is on the Go-Button:
Right-click that button and choose "Open in New Page"
Note-3: due to some old bug with the rebarmenu-plugin I'd recommend to rather add those lines at the end of the the global menus.cfg, found in folder "defaults/settings"

Re: K-Meleon 74.0 Final Release (gre 24.7)
Posted by: George Hall
Date: October 21, 2014 05:08AM

Quote
siria
2) Clone Tab

Am not completely sure if that is what you mean, but click Edit > Configuration > Menus
then insert those lines, save and restart:

!New{
Clone Tab=macros(Go_New)
}

Note, this works only if this is the currently active tab.
Note-2: This is just a copy of the native function which is on the Go-Button:
Right-click that button and choose "Open in New Page"
Note-3: due to some old bug with the rebarmenu-plugin I'd recommend to rather add those lines at the end of the the global menus.cfg, found in folder "defaults/settings"

K-Meleon Extensions Central has and extension macro called Dublicate Tab http://kmext.sourceforge.net/extensions/dublicatetab.7z at the bottom of the Enhancements Extensions Web Page.

Creatiing an extension or addon to clone tabs is not neccessary becuasue a method of cloning tabs for K-Meleon already exists.

Re: K-Meleon 74.0 Final Release (gre 24.7)
Posted by: Meroveus
Date: October 22, 2014 01:06AM

siria, George Hall, JamesD
Thank you very much for your help!

Quote
guenter
Quote
Meroveus
3) Firefox Sync (password sync, history etc) support
3.) Is this an addon? Most that do not require XUL GUI support work.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-set-up-firefox-sync

When you set up Firefox Sync on your computer, all of your data and preferences (such as your bookmarks, history, passwords, open tabs and installed add-ons) gets stored securely on the Mozilla servers. You can share all this information across all your devices.

maybe LastPass can work on K-meleon or something else? This is not a complete replacement for Firefox Sync, but a little better than nothing.

Re: K-Meleon 74.0 Final Release (gre 24.7)
Posted by: George Hall
Date: October 22, 2014 01:44AM

Quote
Meroveus
siria, George Hall, JamesD
Thank you very much for your help!

Quote
guenter
Quote
Meroveus
3) Firefox Sync (password sync, history etc) support
3.) Is this an addon? Most that do not require XUL GUI support work.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-set-up-firefox-sync

When you set up Firefox Sync on your computer, all of your data and preferences (such as your bookmarks, history, passwords, open tabs and installed add-ons) gets stored securely on the Mozilla servers. You can share all this information across all your devices.

maybe LastPass can work on K-meleon or something else? This is not a complete replacement for Firefox Sync, but a little better than nothing.

Firefox Symc most likely would not work with K-Meleon 74 becasue bookmarks are stored differently in K-Meleon in bookmarks.html

Forfox stores both bookmarks and history in places.sqlite.

Also firefox sync must makes sytem calls to one or both omni.ja. K-Meleon 74 does not have all the files from browser/omni.ja that firefox may need to use for Firefox Sync.

Re: K-Meleon 74.0 Final Release (gre 24.7)
Posted by: guenter
Date: October 22, 2014 01:57AM

Quote
Meroveus

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-set-up-firefox-sync

When you set up Firefox Sync on your computer, all of your data and preferences (such as your bookmarks, history, passwords, open tabs and installed add-ons) gets stored securely on the Mozilla servers. You can share all this information across all your devices.

maybe LastPass can work on K-meleon or something else? This is not a complete replacement for Firefox Sync, but a little better than nothing.

No idea if it works - I would not try to store my data online.

Last Pass lite is on K-Meleon Extension Pages page one. I have never tested it.

Last Pass for Firefox is an addon that does not work for K-Meleon74. XUL errors.

You can try to combine the old K-Meleon extension with this.

Make a new extension from it. Name, install.rdf... from the Firefox addon, only chrome files, kmm if needed from the old K-Meleon addon.

Else try older versions of lastpass for firefox from about k-m 1.6 or 1.5.4 times.
There was one after all used to create the K-Meleon version.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/22/2014 02:05AM by guenter.

Re: K-Meleon 74.0 Final Release (gre 24.7)
Posted by: Meroveus
Date: October 22, 2014 02:09AM

Quote
George Hall
Firefox Symc most likely would not work with K-Meleon 74 becasue bookmarks are stored differently in K-Meleon in bookmarks.html

Forfox stores both bookmarks and history in places.sqlite.

Also firefox sync must makes sytem calls to one or both omni.ja. K-Meleon 74 does not have all the files from browser/omni.ja that firefox may need to use for Firefox Sync.

well, what is K-Meleon Sync and how does it work? i tried to find something about it at the forum but didnt find anything.

Or this just "stub" from big brother Firefox?

Re: K-Meleon 74.0 Final Release (gre 24.7)
Posted by: George Hall
Date: October 22, 2014 02:28AM

Quote
Meroveus
Quote
George Hall
Firefox Symc most likely would not work with K-Meleon 74 becasue bookmarks are stored differently in K-Meleon in bookmarks.html

Forfox stores both bookmarks and history in places.sqlite.

Also firefox sync must makes sytem calls to one or both omni.ja. K-Meleon 74 does not have all the files from browser/omni.ja that firefox may need to use for Firefox Sync.

well, what is K-Meleon Sync and how does it work? i tried to find something about it at the forum but didnt find anything.

Or this just "stub" from big brother Firefox?

That is is for Syncing a Whitelist for FlashBlock.

Re: K-Meleon 74.0 Final Release (gre 24.7)
Posted by: George Hall
Date: October 22, 2014 02:54AM

The Firfox Extnsions Password Exporter can work if do the following

4 Extract macros\pwexporter.kmm from pwexporter.7z to K-Meleon 74's macro folder.

Then Exporting Password for K-Meleon 74 works, For some reason passwordexporter.jar from the Firefox Extesnion does not work for K-Meleon 74.

Someone should figure out why Importing Paswords does not work with K-Mleeon 74,
If that is done we would have a method of Importing and Exporting Passwords for K-Meleon 74.

Instead of keeping a copy of key3.db and signons.sqlite to copy into our profile to import passwords.

Attachments: {B17C1C5A-04B1-11DB-9804-B622A1EF5492}.xpi.zip (76.1 KB)
Window Diversion inefficient
Posted by: JujuLand
Date: October 22, 2014 05:13PM

Hi,

Whatever the choice for 'Window diversion' in new tab or in a new window,
'Open Help menu options in a new tab instead of a new Windows' doesn't work.

All others option always opens in the current tab ...

Under XP and Linux

A+

Mozilla/5.0 (x11; U; Linux x86_64; fr-FR; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Ubuntu/12.04 K-Meleon/76.0

Web: http://jujuland.pagesperso-orange.fr/
Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr

Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc

Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 10/22/2014 05:15PM by JujuLand.

Re: Window Diversion inefficient
Posted by: siria
Date: October 22, 2014 05:26PM

Ah yes, now I remember having reported that earlier.
This option was introduced by desga years ago for 1.6, but the new KM seems to be mostly or completely based on 1.5.4. So this option, while surprisingly showing up in the pref sheets, wasn't copied over into the current main.kmm too. I remember it's very easy to fix, just change a few lines in main.kmm, search for "openWindow" and compare with the 1.6-main.kmm, but not enough time to look up details now myself.

Posted by: guenter
Date: October 22, 2014 07:01PM

Quote
George Hall
Someone should figure out why Importing Paswords does not work with K-Mleeon 74,
If that is done we would have a method of Importing and Exporting Passwords for K-Meleon 74.

Instead of keeping a copy of key3.db and signons.sqlite to copy into our profile to import passwords.

Why? Because it throws a Script error about an ID that it cannot find.

If that is the only thing You want someone to figure out.

I attached a version that works for 74.0 of Password Exporter for K-Meleon 1.6 to Your post as: {B17C1C5A-04B1-11DB-9804-B622A1EF5492}.xpi.zip. Download & then please rename to: {B17C1C5A-04B1-11DB-9804-B622A1EF5492}.xpi and try whether PWD import works for You now.

I used the back-wind You suggested and hot-wirred the resulting addon with 74.0+1 because it has a functioning console2.

The styles are changed. I replaced the old default CSS with <?xml-stylesheet type="text/css" href="chrome://global/skin/"?> that K-Meleon has now.

To do: change the name of the addon to something at K-Meleon.org.

BTW. The current Firefox Password Exporter Addon works out of the box for K-Meleon 74.0+1.

It adds PWDs and checks for redundant PWDs that exist.
I have not tested more items. I will not use it.

K-Meleon 74.0+1 has more Firefox chrome support already. naruman works on it.

I find to copy key3.db and signons.sqlite convenient enough.

Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 10/23/2014 12:50AM by guenter.

Re: Window Diversion inefficient
Posted by: JujuLand
Date: October 23, 2014 03:43AM

Hi, Siria

I've been able to modify wiki and Welcome

# ----- Special Opening (based on OpenURL)

$pref_helpmenu="kmeleon.plugins.macros.helpmenu.openintab"; Open_TextAsURL{ macroinfo=_("Open the selected text as URL");$OpenURL=$SelectedText;$OpenURL==""?0:&OpenURL_Selected;
}

macroinfo=_("View basic information on the K-Meleon project");
$__l=getpref(STRING,"general.useragent.locale"); #open("file://".getfolder(RootFolder).($__l=="en-US"?"/browser": ("/locales/".$__l))."/readme.html"); if (getpref(BOOL,$pref_helpmenu))
{ $OpenURL="file://".getfolder(RootFolder).($__l=="en-US"?"/browser": ("/locales/".$__l))."/readme.html"; &OpenURL_InNew; } else { open("file://".getfolder(RootFolder).($__l=="en-US"?"/browser": ("/locales/".$__l))."/readme.html"); } } Open_KMWiki{ macroinfo=_("Go to the K-Meleon Wiki"); #open("http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/wiki/Welcome";); if (getpref(BOOL,$pref_helpmenu)) { $OpenURL="http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/wiki/Welcome";; &OpenURL_InNew; } else { open("http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/wiki/Welcome";); } } But for other entries, I haven't found it. Probably in K-Meleon, or in chrome ? A+ Mozilla/5.0 (x11; U; Linux x86_64; fr-FR; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Ubuntu/12.04 K-Meleon/76.0 Web: http://jujuland.pagesperso-orange.fr/ Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc Options: ReplyQuote Re: Window Diversion inefficient Posted by: siria Date: October 23, 2014 07:30AM Oops... looks like the other help links are moved inside this omni.ja thing! At least a file search locates "faq" inside there. But to my surprise, in 74gre31 my 7z cannot open it anymore??! In 74.0 it still worked, and looks like there those missing help options are inside an "about.xhtml" They are now all "<!ENTITY" elements. (incl. the link to "wiki/ReleaseNotes15" ) ..... Okay, found it.... Nothing changed fundamentally, again just the KM1.6 stuff could be copied over: the block of help-items are at the end of main.kmm. Just as syntax-Example: hm_FAQ { macroinfo=_("View the K-Meleon FAQ"); if (getpref(BOOL,$pref_helpmenu)) { \$OpenURL="http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/wiki/FAQ"; &OpenURL_InNew; } else { id(ID_LINK_KMELEON_FAQ); }
}

If the whole block from KM1.6 main.kmm gets copied into the new main.kmm again, and then in global "menus.cfg", in the "help" chapter, the ID-commands are replaced again with the macros from main.kmm (copy again from KM1.6 menus.cfg), it should work again.

-----

Something else related:
The 3 docinfo-prefs are missing among the default prefs.
Their names are listed in the beginning of "docinfo.kmm"
Adding them in about:config makes the grayed out checkboxes at the end of F2>Window Diversion accessible.

----
Edit: Oh great, the forum now auto-inserts ; after links? Huh??
Could disable bbcode, but then there could be no formatting either. Have removed the ; after the link, so now there is only 1 ; again

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/23/2014 07:36AM by siria.

Re: K-Meleon 74.0 Final Release (gre 24.7)
Posted by: JamesD
Date: October 23, 2014 09:05PM

Quote
siria
In F2>macros there are two native ones declared as "user-defined": places.kmm + tuxhelper.kmm

Quote
JujuLand
tuxhelper is a macro which allows to use some features not possible with wine under Linux (due to some protocols not implemented in wine, like mailto, for exemple...)

As it's include in the setup, I think it should be shown like others macros, and not user-defined. But it's a detail ...

It is easy to fix if you know all the languages required. I know only English.

For languages other than English the definitions are found in Root\locales[language code] \ [language code].jar\kmprefs\kplugins\ in the file named macros.properties.

For English the file is located in Root\browser\omni.ja\chrome\en-US\locale\kmprefs\kplugins\in the file named macros.properties.

Re: Window Diversion inefficient
Posted by: JujuLand
Date: October 24, 2014 02:22AM

Here are the two modified files to correct the problem:

main.kmm to put in macros

Mozilla/5.0 (x11; U; Linux x86_64; fr-FR; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Ubuntu/12.04 K-Meleon/76.0

Web: http://jujuland.pagesperso-orange.fr/
Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr

Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc

Attachments: Windows_Diversion.zip (11.2 KB)
Re: K-Meleon 74.0 Final Release (gre 24.7)
Posted by: siria
Date: October 24, 2014 02:46AM

Quote
JamesD
Quote
siria
In F2>macros there are two native ones declared as "user-defined": places.kmm + tuxhelper.kmm

Quote
JujuLand
tuxhelper is a macro which allows to use some features not possible with wine under Linux (due to some protocols not implemented in wine, like mailto, for exemple...)

It is easy to fix if you know all the languages required. I know only English.

It would already be a huge difference to have at least the english fallback description instead of nothing, only "user-defined". Perhaps we should first start there? Suggestions...?

tuxhelper: Provides more features on Linux systems running KM in wine?
places: History function, allows to remember location of visited pages?

Macro description in kmpref
Posted by: JujuLand
Date: October 24, 2014 03:35AM

Hi, siria,

I have give shorten titles:

Linux helper (mailto and more)
Assistant Linux (mailto et plus)
Linux gehilfe (mailto und mehr)
Linux asistente (mailto y mas)

Browsing history
Browsing verlauf
Historial de navigación

Tell me if I'm wrong (I never talk german that I thought too much difficult)

Here are the modified files:

browser/omni.ja
locales/de
locales/es-ES
locales/fr

sorry for russian and chinese, but I'm not able to do it ...

A+

Mozilla/5.0 (x11; U; Linux x86_64; fr-FR; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Ubuntu/12.04 K-Meleon/76.0

Web: http://jujuland.pagesperso-orange.fr/
Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr

Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/24/2014 03:41AM by JujuLand.

Re: Macro description in kmpref
Posted by: guenter
Date: October 24, 2014 12:56PM

Quote
siria
Oops... looks like the other help links are moved inside this omni.ja thing!
At least a file search locates "faq" inside there.
But to my surprise, in 74gre31 my 7z cannot open it anymore??!
In 74.0 it still worked, and looks like there those missing help options are inside an "about.xhtml"
...snip...

Means that omni.ja was packed with the Mozilla packing method/tools. The table of content is at the begining not at the end of the archive for faster use. Improves FF's startup.

7.z 9.26 or higher support it. But even then You cannot just click on it but must use 7.z menus for Open... At least on my PC.

Quote
JujuLand
Hi, siria,

I have give shorten titles:

Linux helper (mailto and more)
Assistant Linux (mailto et plus)
Linux gehilfe (mailto und mehr)
Linux asistente (mailto y mas)

Browsing history
Browsing verlauf
Historial de navigación

Tell me if I'm wrong (I never talk german that I thought too much difficult)

Here are the modified files:

browser/omni.ja
locales/de
locales/es-ES
locales/fr

sorry for russian and chinese, but I'm not able to do it ...

A+

Yes, siria is the much better German translator.

Translation correct enough for me. Only that nouns are capitalized in written German.

Linux Gehilfe (mailto und mehr) - or maybe: Linux Helfer (Mail und mehr)

Verlauf (with capital letter is sufficient for me)

BTW. helper -> Helfer is a regular sound change from
English and Low German -> Standart German
(helped me to extend the vocabulary without learning)
End of German class.

You can give me a French lesson when I ever make it to Southern France again.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/24/2014 01:31PM by guenter.

Re: Macro description in kmpref
Posted by: JujuLand
Date: October 24, 2014 02:52PM

Quote
guenter
Yes, siria is the much better German translator.
ok, I'll wait for siria translation

Quote
guenter
7.z 9.26 or higher support it. But even then You cannot just click on it but must use 7.z menus for Open...
No problem under Linux with file-roller, but I'm not sure that it saves with the mozilla way.
Can you confirm ?

Quote
guenter
You can give me a French lesson when I ever make it to Southern France again.
No problem ... when ?

A+

Mozilla/5.0 (x11; U; Linux x86_64; fr-FR; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Ubuntu/12.04 K-Meleon/76.0

Web: http://jujuland.pagesperso-orange.fr/
Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr

Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc

Re: Macro description in kmpref
Posted by: siria
Date: October 24, 2014 03:29PM

Tsss.... I'm lousy at translations too, somehow in german literal translations tend to sound just silly, but anyway:

--------
7z:
How exactly do you open it, step-by-step??

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/24/2014 03:31PM by siria.

Re: Macro description in kmpref
Posted by: JujuLand
Date: October 24, 2014 06:47PM

Using Ubuntu

de.jar updated

A+

Mozilla/5.0 (x11; U; Linux x86_64; fr-FR; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Ubuntu/12.04 K-Meleon/76.0

Web: http://jujuland.pagesperso-orange.fr/
Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr

Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/24/2014 06:55PM by JujuLand.

Re: Macro description in kmpref
Posted by: JamesD
Date: October 24, 2014 08:26PM

Quote
siria
7z:
How exactly do you open it, step-by-step??

I am using 7-Zip version 9.20 on Win 7. I just did a right-click on the omni.ja file to get a menu which included "7-Zip". When I selected 7-Zip I got a menu with two "Open Archive" items. I used the second one which is a popup with file type selections. I choose the one marked "zip". That opened the 7-Zip console where I could open folders until I found the one that had the file "macros.properties". I did a right-click on macros.properties and selected "Edit" from the menu. That opened the file in Notepad. I added the two lines and then did "File > Save" to save the file. Then I exited Notepad and I was asked if I wanted to update the archive. I chose to do that. Then I exited 7-Zip.

Re: Macro description in kmpref
Posted by: rodocop
Date: October 24, 2014 08:29PM

I work with jar and ja-files in Total Commander transparently (like with zips)

ru-locale:

Linux helper (mailto and more)
Linux-ассистент (для ссылок mailto: и т.п.)

Browsing history
История навигации

Latest Release KM75.1 Latest dev KM76RC ||| Visit The K-Meleon Place and join me there!
Old good stuff: K-Meleon-1.6db+NS // KM-16-S2014 // 1.6beta2.6 // K-Meleon Twin+

Re: Macro description in kmpref
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: October 24, 2014 09:33PM

If we are talking about zip methods. WinRAR 4.11 and 7-zip 9.20. No problems at all.

To compress them better, I recommend to extract omni.ja and recrompress again as zip.

Is it slower?, I don't know, I just prefer to save disk space. And no problems until now.

Re: Macro description in kmpref
Date: October 25, 2014 12:38AM

Guys, anyone having the problem of NOT being able to find the Edit button in Facebook messages (status messages are ok)?

Re: Macro description in kmpref
Posted by: George Hall
Date: October 25, 2014 01:47AM

Quote
JohnHell
If we are talking about zip methods. WinRAR 4.11 and 7-zip 9.20. No problems at all.

To compress them better, I recommend to extract omni.ja and recrompress again as zip.

Is it slower?, I don't know, I just prefer to save disk space. And no problems until now.

If use 7zip 9.20 - 9.22 Beta you can not extract omni.ja files, However if 7zip 9.32 alpha 9.34 alpha use can extract onmi,ja files.

Otherwise you have to use a different progrma such as WinRAR to extract onm.ja files. Or rename onmi,ja to omni.zip and treated as a compressed folder to extract with Windows builtin compression zipfldr.dll.

When recompressing on omni.ja as a zip with 7zip or other programa such as WiRAR, use compression level store becuase I found storing at any other compression level can cause lag when watching some flash Videos with kMeleon 74 and some ealier versions of K-Meleon as well.

Re: Macro description in kmpref
Posted by: siria
Date: October 25, 2014 02:34AM

omni.ja:
I still can only open the omni in 74g24, but not the one in 74g31.
Tried with 9.26 and 9.30.
9.34 doesn't run anymore on win98