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More emoticons for K-meleon Phorum (macro)
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: June 22, 2015 04:18PM

A macro to have additional emoticons for posting in K-meleon Phorum.




2015-06-23: udpate to 1.1



P.S.: this is not the macro I was working a couple of months ago.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/22/2015 11:20PM by JohnHell.

Attachments: more_emoticons_for_KMPhorum.zip (3.9 KB)   more_emoticons_for_KMPhorum 1.1.zip (3.9 KB)  
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Re: More emoticons for K-meleon Phorum (macro)
Posted by: siria
Date: June 22, 2015 10:05PM

Whoa - 70 smileys!! grinning smiley
And some very nices ones, many look familiar from other forums, although a few others I'd probably never use here... Must admit, as much as I love smileys, usually am too lazy to switch on JS and reload again for the rare use. But who knows, perhaps will now do it more often in the future when needing a special one

PS: there's no working URL-check in it

Can't resist as usual, sorry tongue sticking out smiley but personally I'd split it in 2 parts:
_more_emoticons_KMPhorum{
if(index($URL,"kmeleon.sourceforge.net/forum/posting.php")>-1) &_more_emoticons_KMPhorum2;
if(index($URL,"kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/posting.php")>-1) &_more_emoticons_KMPhorum2;
}
_more_emoticons_KMPhorum2{
$_smilJH=readfile(getfolder(ProfileFolder)."\\macros\\more_emoticons_for_KMPHorum.js");
$_smilJH>"" ? 0 : ....

And hey, you're writing such an informative readme-text, and then don't keep it around for later checks, what a pity! Why not give it the same name as the kmm and js, just adding the _readme, for later reference? Or put it in the subfolder, or put a copy inside.

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Re: More emoticons for K-meleon Phorum (macro)
Posted by: rodocop
Date: June 22, 2015 10:07PM

WOW!!!

La Joga bonita!

P.S. ¡Yo quiero la pelota smile!


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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/22/2015 10:13PM by rodocop.

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Re: More emoticons for K-meleon Phorum (macro)
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: June 22, 2015 11:32PM

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siria
Whoa - 70 smileys!! grinning smiley
And some very nices ones, many look familiar from other forums, although a few others I'd probably never use here... Must admit, as much as I love smileys, usually am too lazy to switch on JS and reload again for the rare use. But who knows, perhaps will now do it more often in the future when needing a special one

Hey, I'm not either, but sometimes... I enable JS for color, bold, size and also emoticons, so... I added these few more to enhance. As you see, lately I was adding new or different when posting. Look at you using them in the Yahoo thread !!!

The 68 are from an old forum I was user from (back to 2004). There were more, but aren't "generic" to be used here and most of them were selected from different sources to use on that forum (by the admin, not me). I found them in the hard disk the other day.

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siria
PS: there's no working URL-check in it

Can't resist as usual, sorry tongue sticking out smiley but personally I'd split it in 2 parts:

Hey, you found it. There was a check ;)

And you were right, and you weren't.

Actually the original macro wasn't standalone and it was in 2 parts, a check and and run, so in the conversion I went straight to the macro.

Ok, but got it, changed. I don't know as a mere user, but maybe that saves some KB of memory in the onload process

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siria
And hey, you're writing such an informative readme-text, and then don't keep it around for later checks, what a pity! Why not give it the same name as the kmm and js, just adding the _readme, for later reference? Or put it in the subfolder, or put a copy inside.

Nah, readme should be a one time use. After that, is up to the user to keep the file for later cheks. I won't be making the life of users so easy

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rodocop
P.S. ¡Yo quiero la pelota smile!

Mmmmm, what!?

The rolling smiley?

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Re: More emoticons for K-meleon Phorum (macro)
Posted by: guenter
Date: June 23, 2015 06:14AM

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JohnHell

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rodocop
P.S. ¡Yo quiero la pelota smile!

Mmmmm, what!?

The rolling smiley?

Ball smiley maybe?



from http://www.animationlibrary.com/sc/100/Soccer/



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/23/2015 06:19AM by guenter.

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Re: More emoticons for K-meleon Phorum (macro)
Posted by: rodocop
Date: June 23, 2015 08:21PM

Ja, ja! Das ist Fantastisch! grinning smiley


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Re: More emoticons for K-meleon Phorum (macro)
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: June 24, 2015 01:14AM

But, is that one the requested emoticon?

I could add it and post a new update for that. Just confirm it and I'll do.

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Re: More emoticons for K-meleon Phorum (macro)
Posted by: guenter
Date: June 24, 2015 06:18AM

So it seems a ball (probably in a smaller size like the others) is the feature request.

First. Lets all look around for a good one.

p.s. And thank You JohnHell for Your macro.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/24/2015 06:19AM by guenter.

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Re: More emoticons for K-meleon Phorum (macro)
Posted by: siria
Date: May 01, 2017 04:27PM

That's a great macro, love it, but being used to surf without JS I keep forgetting it :-/ So since many years am still using an ancient context menu macro with some modifications (KmBBcode, although mostly for text styling and quoting etc.)
Have now made an own smiley macro for the context menu, with a personal selection of internal forum smileys, plus some of 'your' emoticons above, plus a few of the hidden forum-smileys that you just discovered grinning smiley (still missing a few old favorites, maybe add later)
Now wondering, before publishing it for other users, do you mind if my menu macro includes the same postimg-links as yours?

Attachments: Smileys4KM.kmm (6.4 KB)  
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Re: More emoticons for K-meleon Phorum (macro)
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: May 01, 2017 04:34PM

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siria
Now wondering, before publishing it for other users, do you mind if my menu macro includes the same postimg-links as yours?


There is not restriction on bandwidth or such, AFAIK, so use them.


I see you placed in kmm:
"external smilies hosted by JohnHells macro, use only for KM-Forum"


If you don't want to use them any other site, just place a domain check for kmeleon.sourceforge.net. kmeleon.sf.net and kmeleonbrowser.org.




Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/01/2017 04:48PM by JohnHell.

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Re: More emoticons for K-meleon Phorum (macro)
Posted by: rodocop
Date: May 01, 2017 04:53PM

trying to use data:URI instead the linked image:

OOPS!
failed


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Re: More emoticons for K-meleon Phorum (macro)
Posted by: siria
Date: May 01, 2017 06:58PM

Okay thanks. Actually I'd prefer to allow usage elsewhere too, just thought you had written somewhere not to. Perhaps remember wrong.
This line would forbid only the hidden forum smileys in other places:
menugrayed=(index(hostname($URL),"kmeleon")!=0)*(index($ARG,"[img]http://kmeleon")==0);

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Re: More emoticons for K-meleon Phorum (macro)
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: May 01, 2017 07:59PM

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siria
Okay thanks. Actually I'd prefer to allow usage elsewhere too, just thought you had written somewhere not to. Perhaps remember wrong.

I remember I said, somewhere, other thread I guess, that the smileys would be available depending on the availability of postimg, that if they don't display, is not my fault, or something like that.

Concerned that, in someways, I was hotlinking and postimage could ban the access to those images. Something like that I said.

(Searching the forum for where I wrote it..... no way )



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/01/2017 08:07PM by JohnHell.

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Re: More emoticons for K-meleon Phorum (macro)
Posted by: siria
Date: May 01, 2017 08:14PM

cool smiley
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readme
- If for any reason postimg stops its image hosting service, the macro will stop working as expected.

Yes that part is obvious. For that case it helps a bit if at least the images had a telling name.

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Re: More emoticons for K-meleon Phorum (macro)
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: May 01, 2017 08:19PM

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siria
cool smiley
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readme
- If for any reason postimg stops its image hosting service, the macro will stop working as expected.

Yes that part is obvious. For that case it helps a bit if at least the images had a telling name.


BBCode doesn't allow ALT or TITLE text, so, no way.

Using a personal macro for that purpose would be useless, as visitors won't see those ALT and/or TITLE.

Not my fault, again tongue sticking out smiley

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Re: More emoticons / Unicode Emojis
Posted by: siria
Date: June 04, 2017 11:55PM

Sorry slightly off-topic, not related to this macro but to smilies in general. There exist also "Unicode-Emojis", which are just 1 character of special fonts. Those can contain hundred thousand other Unicode-pictures too. Examples:

😻 💕 😴 🌠 🍀

See little images here? Great, you can stop reading cool smiley
Or see only little rectangles with numbers inside??

That was my prob for many years! All the time I thought there's not much to do about it, that this ancient computer would probably need some deep system hacking or such - which just learned was wrong! All it took was to download one of those fonts, and it worked instantly

Some may not look very pretty (depending on the used font), and a real prob is that they look rather different for other people if they have other fonts installed. But at least it would be nice to have a rough idea WHAT sort of image someone has posted!
Here are some smilies and other stuff for a quick check:
https://unicode-table.com/en/sets/emoji/

At the moment I've just downloaded this small (0.5 MB) font "OpenSansEmoji" into the windows fonts folder. It contains only a small subset of those hundred thousand unicode characters:
https://github.com/MorbZ/OpenSansEmoji/blob/master/OpenSansEmoji.ttf
Other fonts are called "EmojiSymbols" or "Symbola", may try those later too.

each Unicode-smilie also has a text-name:
https://nds.wiktionary.org/wiki/Anhang:Unicode/Emoticons



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/06/2017 01:13AM by siria.

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Re: More emoticons / Unicode Emojis
Posted by: rodocop
Date: June 05, 2017 01:23PM

Great! I cannot stop reading you, siria!

Write more! Over and over!


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Re: More emoticons / Unicode Emojis
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: June 05, 2017 05:37PM

Siria, I already told in this forum earlier, as earlier as, at least, the YesScript macro (when you asked about the forbidden symbol), when I said that if you wanted to see UTF-8 icons (characters, actually) you needed those fonts.

In fact, I use Symbola (free to use):
http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/


Anyway, going on topic too, the problem with these characters is that not all users have them installed, even though the latests OSs, Windows 10 in my mind, come with little support for them, but, also, as a parser, to display them as icons instead characters.

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Re: More emoticons / Unicode Emojis 👀
Posted by: siria
Date: June 06, 2017 01:12AM

Ah yes, thanks for the reminder, had it completely forgotten. Oops. Time is always running so incredibly fast, no chance to do or learn even 10% of what I'd like to, sigh. Meanwhile had downloaded the same Symbola font too, but noticed your link is a different one - and its font file newer!

So far this Symbola font works best for me, seems a good allround Unicode font. 8.000 characters for all sorts of signs, mathematical stuff etc., it covers all basic font-smilies (emoticons/emojis), and WORKS even on Windows98 - without the slightest tricks! Simply dropping the ttf-file into the windows fonts folder, without even a browser restart!
There's a complete character map for Symbola:
http://www.fontspace.com/unicode-fonts-for-ancient-scripts/symbola/37632/charmap
With this unicode font installed, this basic emoticons page shows up complete: http://classic.getemoji.com/
The modern version only partly: http://getemoji.com/

Have also tried to find yet more alternatives, a font with prettier emojis, aside from Symbola and OpenSansEmoji, but none is running on this old system. The only third one was Google-Noto-basic, but ugly as hell and very few pics too. All the other pretty shiny fancy ones need younger systems. Oh well, guess am stuck with stoneage again. But still 100x times better as not seeing anything at all, just rectangles.

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Re: More emoticons / Unicode Emojis 👀
Posted by: siria
Date: June 06, 2017 02:05AM

1800 emojis already!! https://emojipedia.org/faq/
This font-smilie technique is developing at lightning speed, and long since grown out of baby shoes!
Variations of "flushed face" in different modern apps: https://unicode-table.com/en/1F633/
Or Android history:
http://blog.emojipedia.org/content/images/2017/05/android-o-emoji-evolution.jpeg

Really, this has already gotten completely crazy:
formerly simple, basic icons now even come all in male+female version, and additionally in 2x5 skin shades!! (slightly exaggerated huh)
https://emojipedia.org/female-police-officer-type-5/

And not only did they manage to have real multicolor images as "font character", but lately they are even getting animated!
Am still under shock:
this font-smilie system is definitely not just an upcoming hype anymore, but already the current smiley-standard! Never realized. Even when seeing a bunch of sophisticated smilies in modern apps, who would have guessed those are actually FONTS now, not IMAGES anymore?!

Yes a big prob is that they can look very different with different fonts used:
https://unicode-table.com/en/1F64B/
And the size seems quite tiny by default, so a nice set of normal image-smilies for forums is still needed. But as additional possibility those font-tricks are incredibly handy. Hundreds of exotic graphics possible *everywhere*, no need to upload an image to some server first, no prob later anymore with broken images and links. It just works everywhere, by merely coping a little text character. Even in plain text files it works! And wastes no server space either.
And not working on old systems either, but that train is long since departed. And it IS possible to get at least a bit basic support, in systems as old as Win98, with the help of this Symbola-font smiling smiley

For copy-paste such a page is handy:
http://classic.getemoji.com
Or for checking how it looks in other systems/apps:
https://unicode-table.com/en/blocks/emoticons/
https://unicode-table.com/en/blocks/miscellaneous-symbols-and-pictographs/

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Re: More emoticons / Unicode Emojis 👀
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: June 06, 2017 02:19PM

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siria

The modern version only partly: http://getemoji.com/

All are displayed here. They should be displayed as well with Symbola in Windows 98.

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siria
For copy-paste....

Even though for Windows 98 it supports only until Unicode 5.1 (we are in 9.0), you can use BabelMap. Or maybe it does run the newest, but I doubt it. Even for Windows 2000, from 9.0.0.1 to 9.0.0.3 he dropped the possiblity to run it (not valid Win32 application) without change the .exe :/
http://www.babelstone.co.uk/Software/BabelMap.html

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Re: More emoticons / Unicode Emojis 👀
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: June 09, 2017 07:07PM

I uploaded the version 9.0.0.1 of BabelMap, compressed with UPX to save disk space, as this is a Win32 compatible application and maybe could work with kernelex in Windows 98. I have no idea, anyway, but you could give a try.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/0d7jfq7y2y29cjn/babelmapupx+9.0.0.1+2016-07-03+unicode+9.0.7z

I also contacted the developer and the next version should be compatible with Windows 2000 too. He changed the compiler, as I guessed and didn't enable the compatibility.



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Re: More emoticons / Unicode Emojis 👀
Posted by: siria
Date: June 09, 2017 10:18PM

Thanks for the tip! We have a quite similar taste in apps smiling smiley

Have tried BabelMap yesterday, the version from the homepage, and the current Version9 didn't even start. With or without KernelEx. He's also offering an old Version5 for Win9X on the website, but that one is so extremely outdated and old, it's a joke (8 years old, most emojis missing).
Long standing grudge, I'll never understand why it goes without saying that someone saying "XP" probably means SP2 or even SP3, but when it comes to win98 all app developers always mean ONLY the very first initial version sad smiley As if it never would have gotten any MS updates ever.
Anyway, then tried to find the previous version somewhere, and got it only from un unknown risky website. Just hope it's clean, and turns out this version8 does run without ANY probs and even without needing kernelex in windows98se!
Except the window is a bit too high, and that size is hardcoded, but suspect that's probably not system related.

Exactly what I needed! Took a bit experimenting, but then found it can do nearly everything, especially can paste a sign or 'rectangle' from some website and BabelMap then tells what it is smiling smiley
emojipedia.org can do that too, needing JS, but greatly prefer a little local tool.

Then tried BabelPAD too, but that's a harder nut. Also had to take the previous version8. At first it looks fine, menus and all. But when opening a sub sheet like for "searching" CTRL+F, all texts consist only of underscores "____"

Never mind, BabelMAP was much more important and this one works (almost) fully smiling smiley

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Re: More emoticons / Unicode Emojis 👀
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: June 09, 2017 10:24PM

You could always use archive.org, if the page is available, as a clean source:
https://wayback.archive.org/web/20160428103016/http://www.babelstone.co.uk:80/Software/BabelMap.html

And if you don't trust the file, use sites as Jotti ;):
https://virusscan.jotti.org/


TIP: if your paste and then click F2 key, it will search it too.



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Re: More emoticons / Unicode Emojis 👀
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: July 11, 2017 03:06PM

Small update to Symbola Font:
http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

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Re: More emoticons / Unicode Emojis 👀
Posted by: siria
Date: July 11, 2017 05:48PM

Thanks for your great tips, John! smiling smiley

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