A discussion thread about browsing Amazon with old browsers, probs, experiences, css-tweaks, trying little workarounds, userstyles, scripts, helper macros etc. Modern KM-versions work probably fine there (after the usual masking as Firefox in menu Tools>useragents>compatmode, or faking as the latest FF version), but can of course be discussed here too.

In my case that means tweaking ancient KM1.6, and here the #1 tip for users with prehistoric systems:
try Opera12.02 instead It even runs on Windows98 (SE) but has a much better engine as KM1.6, works wonders almost everywhere. If failing too, try Firefox9 or roytam1's Retrozilla. Or a newer system if you can ;-)

But personally I'm just an avid macros fan so prefer KM whenever possible. Macros also allow a few functions which otherwise would need resource-killing javascript, and luckily I can help myself tweaking them. It just takes an awful lot of time, and of course still doesn't mean that amazon could be made to run perfectly in 1.6, far from it, for example no digital downloads possible anymore.

Prob-1: Page navigation with KM1.6
There are no links visible to proceed to "page 2" of a wishlist or the "Saved for Later" list (below the Shopping Cart list)

Fix-1:
Set Tools>Useragent to IE7 and try again: the next page buttons show up. String:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1)
General disclaimer:
be aware a fake UA may possibly break other things, but you can always reset it again.

Prob-2:
Page too wide for 1024px screen, squeezing the search field in top bar only 3cm wide.
Amazon seems to expect a monitor width of at least 1280px nowadays. On smaller screens that stupid "PRIME" promo on the right of it covers the search field almost completely. If you have the same prob, get rid of that thing:

Workaround-2:
a CSS userstyle snippet
Add something like this to file adblock.css in your profile/chrome/adblocks.css
(Edit > Configuration > Adblocking Stylesheet)
or to whatever css-adblocker you use, and adjust your domain:

@-moz-document domain(amazon.com) , domain(amazon.de) {
/* search field on top squeezed to 3cm by Prime-ad at right-side => hide prime! */
div#nav-swmslot {display: none !important; }
div#nav-search {min-width: 800px !important; }
}

Attention: that's just trial-and-error, am not sure about possible collateral damage (hiding other stuff too?). If you discover a prob with it please post it here.
For testing you can simply toggle the native "adblock.css" On/Off during a session.
The easiest way is a button in the privacy toolbar.
Otherwise hit F2 > Page Display > Content Filters > CSS Adblocking
You can also try adding this code in profile/chrome/userContent.css, but in old KM-versions changes there need a session restart.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/11/2018 03:15PM by siria.

Prob-3:
Chapter "Technical Description" is too broad for small screens (1024px monitor)
If you have the same prob, make it smaller:

Fix-3:
a CSS userstyle snippet
Add something like this to file adblock.css in your profile/chrome/adblocks.css
(Edit > Configuration > Adblocking Stylesheet)
or to whatever css-adblocker you use, and adjust your domain:

@-moz-document domain(amazon.com) , domain(amazon.de) {
/* TechDat Chapter too wide for 1024px */
div#descriptionAndDetails {max-width: 950px !important;}
}

Quote
siria
...resource-killing javascript...

Me being on a limited monthly data plan, my somewhat related amazon problem--and with ebay--is they devour large amounts of data, much more data than typical sites (not including video, Facebook, Disqus, etc sites).

The bandwith discussion was continued in this separate thread:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?1,148240
(Reduce Data Volume, Bandwidth saving tips)

Back to amazon tweaks:

Prob-4:
The seller list is sometimes refused now, quite frustrating. Meaning the page linked from an article, showing which sellers offer it, for which price and conditions. It only shows a useless excuse page:
"Sorry, technical prob, we're working at it, ...."

Quote

DE: Tut uns Leid!
Während wir Ihre Eingabe ausführen wollten, ist ein technischer Fehler aufgetreten.
Wir arbeiten bereits daran und werden sobald wie möglich wieder für Sie da sein.

Fix:
Just change the useragent!
UA of Firefox 10, ancient IE, or other ancient browsers still works. Example:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.1

Only UA of Firefox 12 or newer shows me the Sorry-page, under certain conditions. Which exactly not sure, perhaps needing JS, other stuff, or a newer browser or system. Just strongly assuming it works with modern browsers. The URL is the same with FF10 (OK) and FF12 (broken).

Offtopic:
now even Wikipedia is completely blocking old browsers too! Also using that infamous TLS1.2 missing ciphers trick, like meanwhile 60-80% (own impression) of other websites too. Incl. github, twitter, developer.mozilla.org, sourceforge partly, and lots of others, plus some sites that work at first visit in session but soon afterwards start breaking and require a restart in KM (like amazon, and even happened on google search for first time now)