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hermes
@roytam1

Is there any prospect of KM emergence on Goanna/4.x engine?

It may happen, just don't know when will it happen. Since either source of KM or Goanna need to be patched in order to build, but I have no free time for that right now.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/08/2018 03:20AM by roytam1.

@roytam1

I understand, of course, if possible. You and so done in fact a grandiose front of work.
With gratitude will wait for the new release (when you have time).



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/07/2018 02:31PM by hermes.

@roytam1

Noticed a problem (I wrote about it little earlier), but this time this is not solved by siria's recommendation.
...
Address example with this problem https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpc-hc/
(but this effect is now found on many pages of SF).

Remarkable is that switching to offline mode (by siria's advice) does not give any effect, like as and when fully closing of browser altogether. That is, when you fully save page with all pictures (as Web Page, Complete), process of saving simply does not reach the creation of an HTML file next to folder of pictures, styles (and etc) from this page.

This tip great works entirely on Gecko (for example, KM 76 RC2), but has no effect on Goanna.
...
A couple of times this page can happen preserved (not clear how), but consistently repeat successfully this didn't work.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2018 08:39PM by hermes.

Link to K-Meleon Goanna on rthost non-available for now

Mirror on GitHub



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/21/2018 02:59PM by rodocop.

Change o.rthost.cf to o.rths.cf to make links work again .

Seeing as there hasn't been a weekly since well, 2 months ago, I'd personally like to see this given a stable release with the usual KM installer etc. and announced on the homepage: it's incredibly stable right now for me on XP.

I don't think there's even a better browser for XP out there, or Vista, it's lightweight enough, flexible and I think if we have a stable, easy-to-install exe for the common newbie we'll see more new KM folk

Anyone else's thoughts?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/22/2018 06:02PM by Plythi.

@Plythi

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Anyone else's thoughts?

You can always convert base archive to SFX and it will not be different from installer. If you use WinRar, it can easy create shortcuts for you (for example, on desktop and start menu, for 7z this is done with help of an extra-package from SF).
...
But honestly, I do not understand meaning of these actions. What can be bad (is a PORTABLE app)?! Any consequences are limited to application folder only. Moreover, it is very convenient for operation and safety in General.

Steady desire to get an installer is just a habit (imposed on everything that should be through
an installer). For operation and configuration of application, this no makes sense (just personal opinion).



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/23/2018 08:35AM by hermes.

There better be XPsp3 support cause I say so.
No nerd arguments about flaunting your bleeding edge systems and taking a dump on any one not using bleeding edge systems.
EOL is not a valid arg.
Nerds seek to destroy all that is a good in the world to put them selfs on a pedestal, ergo don't be a nerd like that you /guys/.
Lastly is it possible to add the patches used by LawtiFox and PCXfox for security & memory? Info on their patches:
https://pcxfirefox.wordpress.com/
I'm not sure why lawliet's versions of the same with some of his own tweaks is more stable:
Ers52 ver works on XP great it's my 2nd browser to kmelon
https://sourceforge.net/projects/lawlietfox/files/ESR/52.x/

"Include features below :
- BetterPGO list v0.80
- Optimize option fp:recise for gfx
- More module to PGO optimize
- Include part of tete009, pcxfirefox, cppinfo patches
- Support libportable the portable mode, multi-thread render support
- Anti Hook support, may enhance stability(about detail please see portable.ini)
- Enhance Security! Anti buffer overflow(Flash, JAVA etc..)"

I'm not a coder perse, but these patches make FF so much better.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/26/2018 10:37PM by FenFen.

Hi fellows,

If anyone who is watching my palemoon27 repo, there is a new commit resolving cloudflare's rocket loader issue. (sites like XDA use it)
So a new KM76G build is coming
Just I don't know if more changes I can do it or not before Saturday.

@roytam1

Just great !
...
I correctly understand, that this advanced mod on Goanna 3.x engine, i.e. not 4.x yet?

Maybe can fix and this problem:
(that is, when you fully save page with all pictures (as Web Page, Complete), process of saving simply does not reach the creation of an HTML file next to folder of pictures, styles (and etc) from this page. Address example with this problem https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpc-hc/ )
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OLD post
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?19,143253,148028#msg-148028 ?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/01/2018 03:43PM by hermes.

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hermes
@roytam1

Just great !
...
I correctly understand, that this advanced mod on Goanna 3.x engine, i.e. not 4.x yet?

Maybe can fix and this problem:
(that is, when you fully save page with all pictures (as Web Page, Complete), process of saving simply does not reach the creation of an HTML file next to folder of pictures, styles (and etc) from this page. Address example with this problem https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpc-hc/ )
--
OLD post
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?19,143253,148028#msg-148028 ?

since it is KM76G, it will still use Goanna 3.x.
for Goanna 4.1.x based KM is still planning.
and for saving bug, I had a look on it but I can't find where the bug occurs in the source code so I don't know how to fix it.

@roytam1

There is still a small bug, it is not critical, but sometimes interferes: when you right-click on link (with holding down [Ctrl] key), we open link in a new background tab, but here appears context menu (even if you release [Ctrl] key) is it possible to fix it? To be able to open many tabs in background by holding [Ctrl] and simply clicking on links (as works in 76RC2 / Gecko).

And even more cosmetic defect, if additional tab settings are active:

user_pref("browser.tabs.closeButtons", 1); // show [x] to close tab
user_pref("kmeleon.tabs.multiline", 2); // use more than one tab line (whether tabs in two rows)

When you open enough tabs (to make second row appear) on this additional row, [x] on tabs does not work. Tabs are closed by other methods.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/02/2018 02:22PM by hermes.

New regular/weekly KM-Goanna release:
https://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/KM-Goanna-20181103.7z

Changelog:

Out-of-tree changes:
* update Goanna3 to git 84be542d0...e1975531d:
- import changes from tenfourfox#517 for solving cloudflare rocket loader issue:
- #517: fake out current Rocket Loader (0bbf06e)
- #517: a couple tune-ups (5f47da2)
- #517: more complete workaround for Rocket Loader (3926185) (68339dcfa)
- ported changes from tenfourfox: bug1470260-p1, bug1480092, bug1466577, bug1469348, bug1461706
- #334: get around a Telemetry stub crash by disabling MOAR TELEMETRY (e3663e02b) (e1975531d)

* Notice: the changelog above may not always applicable to XULRunner code which K-Meleon uses.

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hermes
@roytam1

There is still a small bug, it is not critical, but sometimes interferes: when you right-click on link (with holding down [Ctrl] key), we open link in a new background tab, but here appears context menu (even if you release [Ctrl] key) is it possible to fix it? To be able to open many tabs in background by holding [Ctrl] and simply clicking on links (as works in 76RC2 / Gecko).

And even more cosmetic defect, if additional tab settings are active:

user_pref("browser.tabs.closeButtons", 1); // show [x] to close tab
user_pref("kmeleon.tabs.multiline", 2); // use more than one tab line (whether tabs in two rows)

When you open enough tabs (to make second row appear) on this additional row, [x] on tabs does not work. Tabs are closed by other methods.

hmm, I may the a look to see if I can fix it or not.

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hermes
... when you right-click on link (with holding down [Ctrl] key), we open link in a new background tab, but here appears context menu (even if you release [Ctrl] key) is it possible to fix it?

Ummm. On my box I have WordWeb set to open on Ctrl+R-Click. All my browsers open a context menu for R-Click.

@hermes - Shouldn't that be Ctrl+L-Click? That is the usual "New Tab" shortcut. IE opens the new tab in background, all Gecko forks open it in foreground.

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Understanding the scope of the problem is the first step on the path to true panic. [Florence Ambrose, "Freefall" 01372 January 22, 2007 http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1400/fv01372.htm]

Thanks for new build!

Regarding the context menu bug, I can't check it myself at the moment, but do mousegestures have this too? I noticed that prob some time ago, but can't remember which browser that was, not even sure if it was KM or FF2... At every right-click the context menu popped up, when using gestures hundreds of times in each sessions that's a huge prob. But again, no idea which browser that was, perhaps someone else can do a quick test.

@roytam1

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and for saving bug, I had a look on it but I can't find where the bug occurs in the source code so I don't know how to fix it.

The last time this was observed about three years ago:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?8,135856,136413#msg-136413
That is, can try to see difference of code between dates November 18, 2015 (K-Meleon 76 Beta) and next release (K-Meleon 76 Beta 2, November 21, 2015 or similar).

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What's new since beta :
- Fixed save as page complete

Code must be here, apparently this is the same code (which was fixed)
https://sourceforge.net/p/kmeleon/source/ci/cc5aa31ec82243b985a2792c0158f41a88a87611/





@gordon451

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@hermes - Shouldn't that be Ctrl+L-Click? That is the usual "New Tab" shortcut. IE opens the new tab in background, all Gecko forks open it in foreground.

http://kmeleonbrowser.org/wiki/FAQ#mouseaccels (this is default accelerators for mouse)

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hermes
@roytam1

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and for saving bug, I had a look on it but I can't find where the bug occurs in the source code so I don't know how to fix it.

The last time this was observed about three years ago:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?8,135856,136413#msg-136413
That is, can try to see difference of code between dates November 18, 2015 (K-Meleon 76 Beta) and next release (K-Meleon 76 Beta 2, November 21, 2015 or similar).

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What's new since beta :
- Fixed save as page complete

Code must be here, apparently this is the same code (which was fixed)
https://sourceforge.net/p/kmeleon/source/ci/cc5aa31ec82243b985a2792c0158f41a88a87611/

same code is already in the XULRunner tree of KM-Goanna since I was patching Goanna for KM in the beginning, but the bug is still here. So I'm no clue why does it happen.

@roytam1

Thanks for trying : ). And thank you very much for new fixed build.
I will hope that problem will disappear when KM is ported on Goanna/4.x engine.



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hermes
@gordon451

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@hermes - Shouldn't that be Ctrl+L-Click? That is the usual "New Tab" shortcut. IE opens the new tab in background, all Gecko forks open it in foreground.

http://kmeleonbrowser.org/wiki/FAQ#mouseaccels (this is default accelerators for mouse)

I actually had not seen that documentation And I've had WordWeb forever, so Ctrl+R-Click was never considered as a browser accelerator: WW implements it as a system hook which will override any browser prefs. Not to mention I've never wanted to use mouse gestures anyway

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Understanding the scope of the problem is the first step on the path to true panic. [Florence Ambrose, "Freefall" 01372 January 22, 2007 http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1400/fv01372.htm]



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/04/2018 01:46AM by gordon451.

@roytam1

v1103 has a weird bug, sometimes it lost flash player plugins without reason, but in the mean time, v0825 works fine.

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jasonliul
@roytam1

v1103 has a weird bug, sometimes it lost flash player plugins without reason, but in the mean time, v0825 works fine.

thats strange since there is no change around plugin's code in Goanna or KM.

Thank you for the update.

Nothing to report yet

@roytam1

Strange, puffin browser use flash as normal, but K-Meleon. i re-installed twice.
Looks nothing wrong today.

I've found 2 problems:
1) when YouTube video is playing, K-Meleon doesn`t block PC from turning off display (and, I believe, from entering standby/hibernation mode), so I cannot watch the video more than 5 minutes - my Windows setting for turning off display.
2) if "Hide K-Meleon app Title Bar" option is set up and loading of last session is turned on (so that some site is opened, not about:blank page), K-Meleon window gets wrong position at startup, and I need to enter and leave fullscreen mode to fix it.

Since GitHub updated javascript making KM76 not working well, I'm thinking if I can make more progress on making Goanna-4.1.x and/or Gecko45TFF to be KM-compatible.

My main palemoon profile had just been updated to PM28.

EDIT:

spoofing to ESR 60 seems working at the moment:
general.useragent.override.github.com = Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 (Pale Moon)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/05/2018 04:14PM by roytam1.

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roytam1

I'm thinking if I can make more progress on making Goanna-4.1.x and/or Gecko45TFF to be KM-compatible.

It would be like a breath of fresh air! : )

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roytam1
Since GitHub updated javascript making KM76 not working well, I'm thinking if I can make more progress on making Goanna-4.1.x and/or Gecko45TFF to be KM-compatible.

My main palemoon profile had just been updated to PM28.

EDIT:

spoofing to ESR 60 seems working at the moment:
general.useragent.override.github.com = Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 (Pale Moon)

besides this, enabling dom.fetch.enabled in about:config is needed as well.

Thanks

New regular/weekly KM-Goanna release:
https://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/KM-Goanna-20181117.7z

Changelog:

Out-of-tree changes:
* update Goanna3 to git e1975531d..a6bf60af2
- ported mozilla upstream changes:
- Nikhil Marathe - Bug 1139665 - Check content load policy in FetchDriver. r=baku (25ded6c22f64)
- Nikhil Marathe - Bug 1143857 - Add FormData serialize support to Fetch API. r=ehsan (1ff28a6f0b77)
and enable fetch API in pref. (a6bf60af2)

* Notice: the changelog above may not always applicable to XULRunner code which K-Meleon uses.