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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: D.J.
Date: June 15, 2020 07:21PM

Hi, I found a problem with this browser: the settings I made are not saved if the computer restarts or program is closed with task manager before normal exiting the browser! Thanks

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: June 18, 2020 01:00AM

The thread has been re-opened.

Please, focus on the thread topic.


This thread is about this version. For downloading, testing, news, congrats and reports for roytam and his Goanna K-meleon build.


For any other topic, if it is related to this build, this means a Goanna related talk, you can use the subforum that holds this thread; if it is related to the website or the forum, you have the General forum or Off-topic; for K-meleon general talk or issues, you have the General Forum or the Bugs Forum; for anything else, you have the whole forum with their own topics.

By follow these guidelines we make a more healthy community.

Thanks for your patience while this thread has been closed. It was really necessary for technical reasons by not following the above guidelines and the implications it had.

Regards.



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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: D.J.
Date: June 19, 2020 08:26AM

Hi,

Proposal for optimizing the loading of YouTube search results and videos: make browser to load only what is "on the screen" (so the results, chat and suggestions should be displayed only when we scroll over those items). This could be done for any other site. Thanks!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/19/2020 02:23PM by JohnHell.

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: J.G.
Date: June 19, 2020 12:30PM

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D.J.
Hi,
Proposal for optimizing the loading of YouTube search results and videos: make browser to load only what is "on the screen" (so the results, chat and suggestions should be displayed only when we scroll over those items). This could be done for any other site. Thanks!

Hi, @D.J., Edit > Preferences > Network/Performance > Disable Link Prefetching.
For Youtube, about:config,
general.useragent.override.youtube.com > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10; WOW64; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/62.0
general.useragent.override.gaming.youtube.com > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10; WOW64; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/62.0
(Note: NT 10 is for W10, NT 6.1 for W7, NT 6.2 for W8, NT 6.3 for W8.1).
I hope this will be fine. smiling smiley



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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: D.J.
Date: June 19, 2020 01:20PM

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J.G.
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D.J.
Hi,
Proposal for optimizing the loading of YouTube search results and videos: make browser to load only what is "on the screen" (so the results, chat and suggestions should be displayed only when we scroll over those items). This could be done for any other site. Thanks!

Hi, @D.J., Edit > Preferences > Network/Performance > Disable Link Prefetching.
For Youtube, about:config,
general.useragent.override.youtube.com > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10; WOW64; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/62.0
general.useragent.override.gaming.youtube.com > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10; WOW64; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/62.0
(Note: NT 10 is for W10, NT 6.1 for W7, NT 6.2 for W8, NT 6.3 for W8.1).
I hope this will be fine. smiling smiley

I will try what you wrote me, but the browser should have these settings already made, without complicating users to change them. Thank you



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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: June 19, 2020 02:24PM

Please, don't change the thread subject.

If you really want to talk about anything else, create a new thread.

Thank you.



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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: J.G.
Date: June 19, 2020 06:39PM

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JohnHell
Please, don't change the thread subject.
If you really want to talk about anything else, create a new thread.
Thank you.

This should be explained more carefully. As I understand, the only option to not change thread subject is just answering a post that contains similar common thread subject posted by @roytam1 each released version. Otherwise, how to reply to the other user without changing main thread subject itself? I meant, do we need to read first all subject of each post and not to answer if the subject is not the similar common one? :s



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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: J.G.
Date: June 19, 2020 06:51PM

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D.J.
I will try what you wrote me, but the browser should have these settings already made, without complicating users to change them. Thank you

KMeleon is a very customizable browser and you can change a large amount of settings. smiling smiley

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613) (off-topic)
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: June 19, 2020 08:44PM

[off-topic]

You have the option, when you reply, to change the topic. Usually, people doesn't care to what post are they replying and if the user that they are replying to changed the subject, all later replies will have the thread subject changed.

This is an issue for people that check new posts in the forum, as they don't know where does the post belongs too, if it is a new thread or is on another one
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/addon.php?0,module=recent_messages


In this case, the user changed it to "Proposal for Kmeleon development" (despite it should have been a new thread) in this subforum. You replied and the ball started rolling.


Please, consider checking this page without grouping:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/addon.php?0,module=recent_messages

Or change from your control panel to threaded view and you'll understand what I mean. (opción varios mensajes por páginas con respuestas intercaladas)
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/control.php?19,panel=forum

Now, that I changed the subject in this post, you will reply and the subject will change forever, until roytam releases a new version this weekend.

Do you understand the problem it involves for other persons trying to know what are they reading?

[/off topic]

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: siria
Date: June 19, 2020 10:45PM

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D.J.
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J.G.
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D.J.
Hi,
Proposal for optimizing the loading of YouTube search results and videos: make browser to load only what is "on the screen" (so the results, chat and suggestions should be displayed only when we scroll over those items). This could be done for any other site. Thanks!

Hi, @D.J., Edit > Preferences > Network/Performance > Disable Link Prefetching.
(....)

I will try what you wrote me, but the browser should have these settings already made, without complicating users to change them. Thank you

Yeah but on the other hand, if link prefetching is disabled, some other users may complain that it loads links much "slower". There isn't always a "best" setting for all users and all websites.

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: XP user
Date: June 21, 2020 10:03PM

Can you please, just please, host a site with the downloads for Windows XP, that support IE 6? I don't care how ugly it looks, I would be fine with just text and basic CSS. Sourceforge and other sites practically have just abadoned IE 6, therfore I'm stuck with IE 6

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: June 21, 2020 11:15PM

This build isn't hosted on SourceForge. It evens lets you download in plain HTTP connection, so is not a problem for Internet Explorer 6. Just remove the s from https in the url:

http://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/KM76.2-Goanna-20200613.7z

Note that you need XP with Service Pack 3 to run this build.

If you are trying to download other version, tell use and we will try to offer alternatives by uploading it elsewhere.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 06/21/2020 11:18PM by JohnHell.

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: siria
Date: June 21, 2020 11:37PM

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XP user
Can you please, just please, host a site with the downloads for Windows XP, that support IE 6? I don't care how ugly it looks, I would be fine with just text and basic CSS. Sourceforge and other sites practically have just abadoned IE 6, therfore I'm stuck with IE 6

No, with XP you're not stuck, if you can install other browsers.
Especially a forked one with modern TLS1.2 update by roytam1 smiling smiley
Did you know he rescued not only KM, but a whole bunch of all eras?
All with Mozilla engine. The others are posted on his blog and in the msfn-forum.

Even with incredibly old browsers for Windows98 it's possible again to download from sourceforge, thanks to updated TLS1.2 forks, just tested again with Retrozilla (rz-suite, ancient seamonkey) or rzbrowser (Firefox2) smiling smiley



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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: 4td8s
Date: June 24, 2020 07:04AM

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XP user
therfore I'm stuck with IE 6

you do realize that you can install either IE7 or IE8 on XP and not having to be "stuck" with IE6

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: 4td8s
Date: June 24, 2020 07:07AM

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roytam1


should be fixed now, please redownload

no 6-20 or 20200620 build, roytam1?
I'll wait until there's a new one (like for 6/27 or 7/4)

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: PA
Date: June 24, 2020 07:44PM

Hi, i cant play browser flash-player games on K-Meleon Goanna (ANY version) such as Wartune. Browser just dies or stop working before game resourses loading.

https://wartune.r2games.com/


Its really sadly because K-Meleon 76 Gecko was one of the fastest browsers with small cpu loading(((

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: J.G.
Date: June 25, 2020 08:14AM

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PA
Hi, i cant play browser flash-player games on K-Meleon Goanna (ANY version) such as Wartune. Browser just dies or stop working before game resourses loading. [link deleted]
Its really sadly because K-Meleon 76 Gecko was one of the fastest browsers with small cpu loading(((

I play daily a lot of flash-players games with no problem at all.
Please, just press F5 to reload; clear cookies and cache also. :s

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: PA
Date: June 25, 2020 09:58AM

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J.G.
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PA
Hi, i cant play browser flash-player games on K-Meleon Goanna (ANY version) such as Wartune. Browser just dies or stop working before game resourses loading. [link deleted]
Its really sadly because K-Meleon 76 Gecko was one of the fastest browsers with small cpu loading(((

I play daily a lot of flash-players games with no problem at all.
Please, just press F5 to reload; clear cookies and cache also. :s

There is nothing to clear, I use just downloaded archive with K-M Goana. Just try to play https://wartune.r2games.com/ by yourself. Every try I get black screen or error message I also try to play another wartune's platform: 101xp.com. And I got similar error. This error is only on K-M GOANNA.

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: PA
Date: June 25, 2020 10:09AM

Error message

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: J.G.
Date: June 25, 2020 02:55PM

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PA
There is nothing to clear, I use just downloaded archive with K-M Goana. Just try to play https://wartune.r2games.com/ by yourself. Every try I get black screen or error message I also try to play another wartune's platform: 101xp.com. And I got similar error. This error is only on K-M GOANNA.

Well, please try at about:config, dom.ipc.plugins.timeoutSecs = 180
Please notice that xulrunner files must be located in same directory of your app.

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: PA
Date: June 25, 2020 03:27PM

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J.G.
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PA
There is nothing to clear, I use just downloaded archive with K-M Goana. Just try to play https://wartune.r2games.com/ by yourself. Every try I get black screen or error message I also try to play another wartune's platform: 101xp.com. And I got similar error. This error is only on K-M GOANNA.

Well, please try at about:config, dom.ipc.plugins.timeoutSecs = 180
Please notice that xulrunner files must be located in same directory of your app.

Sorry it wont help, I even dont know what "xulrunner" is, and what "xulrunner files" is. I only use fresh downloaded archive K-M Goanna with no modifications or any additional extensions/plugins/files. Something wrong with Goanna's work with Flash, I can onlysay it again.

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: iufvy
Date: June 25, 2020 04:10PM

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PA
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J.G.
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PA
There is nothing to clear, I use just downloaded archive with K-M Goana. Just try to play https://wartune.r2games.com/ by yourself. Every try I get black screen or error message I also try to play another wartune's platform: 101xp.com. And I got similar error. This error is only on K-M GOANNA.

Well, please try at about:config, dom.ipc.plugins.timeoutSecs = 180
Please notice that xulrunner files must be located in same directory of your app.

Sorry it wont help, I even dont know what "xulrunner" is, and what "xulrunner files" is. I only use fresh downloaded archive K-M Goanna with no modifications or any additional extensions/plugins/files. Something wrong with Goanna's work with Flash, I can onlysay it again.

You can play offline games smiling smiley

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: rodocop
Date: June 25, 2020 10:49PM

I can confirm this bug as well as KM 75.1 or KM76 Gecko play the game well.

Debug info for roytam1: game https://www.r2games.com/play/?game=14 was played well until 20190601 (incl.)

20190608 was the first buggy here (crash of won't load) - as well as all of the following builds.

Error module is mosalloc.dll or npswf32.dll if plugin-container.exe crashed
or
xul.dll if k-meleon.exe crashed



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/25/2020 11:22PM by rodocop.

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: rodocop
Date: June 25, 2020 11:27PM

PA,
you can use any older build that play your games well: KM 75-76 Gecko or any Goanna build up to 20190601

Feel free to ask for russian help here in thread or at ru-board.com forum.

But 101xp.com works well for me.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/25/2020 11:36PM by rodocop.

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: XP user
Date: June 26, 2020 01:47AM

Im stuck on Windows XP SP1, and i can't even get to ie7. Not even ie8.

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: XP user
Date: June 26, 2020 01:49AM

Also, I already enabled all options regarding ssl and tls, and sourceforge will not load.

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: XP user
Date: June 26, 2020 01:49AM

But I do have a phone.

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: siria
Date: June 26, 2020 04:21AM

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XP user
2020-06-21
Can you please, just please, host a site with the downloads for Windows XP, that support IE 6? I don't care how ugly it looks, I would be fine with just text and basic CSS. Sourceforge and other sites practically have just abadoned IE 6, therfore I'm stuck with IE 6

2020-06-26
Im stuck on Windows XP SP1, and i can't even get to ie7. Not even ie8.

2020-06-26
Also, I already enabled all options regarding ssl and tls, and sourceforge will not load.

2020-06-26
But I do have a phone.

if you want a browser which runs on your XP SP1 and can download programs from SOURCEFORGE and GITHUB, etc, you can use:

For example roytams TLS-updated fork of NewMoon26.5 (PaleMoon26.5),
Old engine but still MUCH newer as IE6, and this runs even on Win2000!
http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/palemoon-26.5.0-20180718.win2000.7z

Same engine (PM26) used in his K-Meleon-Goanna74G fork of Naruman's old
KM74+ fork, with updated TLS, but perhaps slightly buggy:
http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/KM74-g22-20180718.win2000.7z

Or much younger, his special build of Firefox45, but don't know which system this one needs:
http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/firefox-45.9.25-20200620-b5b03bdce-win32-ia32.

(_howto_ old browsers with modern TLS1.2, howto download from sourceforge github)



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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: roytam1
Date: June 26, 2020 02:04PM

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rodocop
I can confirm this bug as well as KM 75.1 or KM76 Gecko play the game well.

Debug info for roytam1: game https://www.r2games.com/play/?game=14 was played well until 20190601 (incl.)

20190608 was the first buggy here (crash of won't load) - as well as all of the following builds.

Error module is mosalloc.dll or npswf32.dll if plugin-container.exe crashed
or
xul.dll if k-meleon.exe crashed

it doesn't crash here, just stalls at 9%
https://i.imgur.com/qAqBJ48.png

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Re: [TEST BUILD] K-Meleon 76.2 on Goanna 3.4.5 (Build 20200613)
Posted by: rodocop
Date: June 26, 2020 05:02PM

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roytam1
it doesn't crash here, just stalls at 9%
https://i.imgur.com/qAqBJ48.png

Sometime stalls (9% or black screen on next step), sometime crashes... Anyway older builds do handle this page fine



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