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I downloaded an old version of Firefox spell checker in Spanish.
https://addons.mozilla.org/es/firefox/addon/diccionario-de-espa%C3%B1ol-espa%C3%B1a/versions/
(I do not know if web extensions also work)
I extract the content.
I copy to the K-Meleon dictionaries folder
es-ES.dic
es-ES.aff
Now in the texts appear some words underlined in red.
I click right but I do not see any menu to correct the word.
Where can I change the language of the proofreader from English to Spanish?
At the moment I have deleted the files in English.
Is it necessary to download an extension in Firefox 74?
Thank you.
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 07/17/2019 12:54PM by Cixert.
Sólo necesitas el plugin Spellcheck.
Mira que tengas la dll spellcheck.dll en la carpeta kplugins y que lo tengas activado desde las preferencias. DeberÃas ver al hacer clic sobre la palabra una opción en el menú contextual que pone spellcheck. Todo se controla desde esa opción del menú.
--
You only need the plugin SpellCheck.
Check you have the dll at kplugins folder and you have enabled through preferences. Once done, when clicking on a word you will see an option as "SpeellCheck". From there you can control all.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/15/2019 05:56PM by JohnHell.
I do not have spellcheck.dll at kplugins folder.
I do not see the Spell Check for K-Meleon 74 plugin in the repository
http://kmext.sourceforge.net/ext7.htm
Gracias por responder también en español. No es necesario.
Download from this thread:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?9,132412,132419
Or download the latest Gecko or Goanna versions as they have it included.
Looks like 74, which is what you are using, didn't have it included in the package.
Por si acaso
Y también será útil para otros
I pasted spellcheck.dll in kplugins
No more is needed?
I still do not see any menu related to Spell Check.
Nor in Edit-Preferences
Nor in right click
I use
KM74-g22-20180718.win2000 (test build)
can this be the cause?
Nope. Note that I'm in XP now, but once you place the file in kplugins and upon reopen of K-meleon, it asks if you want to enable it and it works.
Doesn't it ask when you reopen K-meleon?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/15/2019 08:15PM by JohnHell.
I see that in about: config is activated
layout.spellcheckDefault
= 1
How would you change the the spell check language?
I now only have the dictionaries in Spanish.
I see all the English words underlined in red.
But I click right and a special menu does not appear.
If you are able to see the menu entry SpellCheck after clicking in a textarea like the forum edit box, you should be able to click it and then it should be displayed a new context menu where you can choose to correct a word (if you clicked over an underlined word), a dictionary or disable SpellCheck.
I upload this version from 75.x just in case that version has troubles with Goanna version. Note that this file is in the official 75.x packages.
Note 2: I have 3 dictionaries and I can switch without problems between them. Spanish one among them of course.
Note 3: in case you can switch with the context menu, edit this preference with the appropriate file name (without extension) value:
spellchecker.dictionary
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07/15/2019 08:42PM by JohnHell.
Attachments:
spellcheck for 75.x.zip (13.2 KB)
Am not a spellcheck user myself, just did a few tests:
When trying the KM75-plugin in KG74 on old OS, it asks at startup to install it, but after a restart the browser only crashes.
When trying the KG76-plugin in KG74, it gets completely ignored. No offer to install, no entry in F2 > KM Plugins.
Same for Marks old spelltest.dll build for KM1.6
Suspecting the plugin must fit to a specific engine version??
Am currently trying to sort through my old notes, to remember...
Back in 2011 had posted a helper macro which creates a menu, but it can only toggle the prefs.
It can NOT show any word suggestions. Being a macro, toggling those prefs still works of course:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?9,113831
PS: wondering why you're using an old version... Win2000? KernelEx? Just for fun? Do you see the Privacy Toolbar?
PS2: please update your topic title to include KG74. Otherwise casual readers will think they'd have to jump through hoops too for spellchecking. But since KM75 it's fully working out-of-box already.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/15/2019 10:56PM by siria.
My favorite operating system is Windows 2000. The K-Meleon version that I am using has many bugs but once learned the browser works correctly.
One of the advantages using Windows 2000 is that it is a fast operating system.
Now I also know that K-Meleon is the fastest browser that exists.
Mixing Windows 2000 and K-Meleon is a delight to surf the Internet fast.
At the moment I am trying to test Spell Checker in Windows XP. Now everything is much slower but K-Meleon is still the fastest browser compared to all the others.
Well, I also can not use Spell Checker in K-Meleon 76.1 - Goanna 3.4.2 KM-Goanna-20181215 (XP fork)
spellcheck.dll comes in the kplugins folder
in about: config
layout.spellcheckDefault
It is marked at 0 = disabled
I enable putting it at 1 = activated
Now I see the words underlined in red.
I double left click on a word and then right click. No dictionary menu appears.
Edit:
The tests I was doing in the HTC Mania forum.
Now that I am writing these words on the K-Meleon forum I do see Spell Check menu.
So the question is:
Why in a forum does the menu appear and in another forum the menu does not appear?
In both the words appear underlying in red color.
I will try again later on Windows 2000 version
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/16/2019 07:46PM by Cixert.
Great info, thanks for feedback!
Would be interesting in learning more about your fixes for KG74, in its own thread.
BTW on Win2000 you can also use KM75.1 (or 75.0? not sure) when using dll-wrappers, I heard...
And wondering why you use outdated 76.1 on XP and not 76.2?
Just recently a new poster did the same, this must have a reason.
Regarding the spellcheck menu, does its appearance depend if a text is selected or not?
Ah!, that is tricky. It depends on the element the editable box is in. I may be wrong, as I've never been at HTC mania site, but there are others (can recall right now on one) that happens the same and might be because it is an editable box but not a textarea form element.
Just to be clear, is a normal behaviour.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/16/2019 08:00PM by JohnHell.
Implementing it is complicated and there is not for Spanish.
I do not even use updated Windows 2000.
Service pack 4 makes it so slow as XP.
I use Service Pack 3 with some critical security update (anti Blaster, Conficker, Sasser, RPCSS ...) So I have a pure Windows 2000.
On XP I have no reason to have K-Meleon 76.1 It's just the one I have.
Is it possible to upgrade to 76.2 over 76.1 without destroying the current configuration?
(XP fork does not have installer)
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I'm now trying to implement Spell Checker on K-Meleon 74 and it's still not working.
No menu or Spell Checker message appears.
In K-Meleon 76.1 works with just right click on the word underlined in red.
It does not work if I select the word with double left click. Sorry for the confusion.
Any other ideas to make it work in K-Meleon 74?
Spell Check does not appear in the menu Preferences + K-Meleon Plugins + Macro Extension
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/17/2019 03:51PM by Cixert.
Thanks for confirmation. Good to know that still the menu only pops up if no text is selected.
Unfortunately it looks like old K-Meleon 74 is the only KM-version without any chance to get word-suggestions?
Although the red wavy lines show up out-of-box since K-Meleon1.6, but the word-suggestions just need a special KM plugin. There are usermade plugins for KM1.5 and KM1.6, and native plugins are included since KM75, but KM74 is just out of luck so far.
In the past someone mentioned he installed WordWeb as a workaround, or perhaps other general tools may work too. Have no clue of those.
Aside from such external plugins, there's only my old pref-toggling macro, to get at least a menu for general spell-settings, choosing the language, adding own words etc. (2011)
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?9,113831
That's a subject that comes up every so often, because it's a bit tricky.
Last topic was here:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?19,146213
I downloaded SpellPrefs.kmm for 1.6 from here because the other link does not seem to work temporarily.
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?9,113831
The macro (*.kmm) does only what I explained it does:
"there is not for Spanish" - that reminds me what Win2000 expert JohnHell mentioned awhile ago that he refused to use such "Kernel" updates too, and also that this kind of kernel-update-trick would only run on a pure english system anyway.
Yet for a long time before he was already able to run KM75 and KM75.1 just with the help of some "dll wrapper" tools, which seem to be less heavy and intrusive.
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?19,144876
I don't think I'm an expert.
He is talking more about that with Service Pack 4 it slows down what I can't agree at all.
And dll wrappers actually don't change 2000 kernel by XP one. Kernel wrappers works as follows:
program.exe > load dll wrapper for extended functions (XP) > load the rest of the functions as usual from system kernel files
KernelEx, in the other hand, that is the link that you siria post, is way beyond. It actually updates the kernel files with modified kernel. An updated kernel with missing functions, to be exact, with installers modded to mimic Microsoft ones, with uninstall options included (if blackwingcat (the developer of KernelEx) didn't change it).
Anyway, I can't blame him. But as you know siria, sadly, K-meleon 74 with Goanna engine wasn't much of an improvement to K-meleon 75/75.1, but for this topic, at least the official Gecko engine releases, they add spellcheck compatibility, but if he doesn't want to update Windows 2000+dll wrappers... Is up to him. Hey, you are still on Windows 98
We are all crazy
Sure, but he merely said he doesn't want SP4, and not the Kernel-Update.
No word of those lighter wrappers - it's possible he's not aware of this alternative yet.
Just trying to spread a bit info
(hey I wasn't aware for *years* about KernelEx for 98se, about FF9 and Opera12 with TLS1.2!)
Differences between KG74 and KM75.x, hmm...
While I have that stuff still fresh in memory, let me post a few points, not complete of course:
SPELLCHECKER:
KM1.6 until KM74: spellchecker is included, but it can only underline wrong words.
KM75: possible to get word suggestions by menu (needs a kplugin. For KM1.5+1.6 a user created kplugin is available, only for KM74 - nothing)
USERAGENTS for single SITES:
KM-Goanna 74+76 WORK! They have already initialized that important function
KM74-76 Gecko need a user-hack in omni.ja to get it working
MACRO MENUS: Very buggy when modifying menus in session
KG74: Just recently figured out that viewing an in-session-updated menu CRASHES KG74 on 98se.
Not sure if KM74 or younger OS crash too, probably not, but they sure have the same bugs. Desaster for macros.
KM75 was a bit fixed, 75.1 and KM76 yet better, but not sure if session-menu-updates were ever fixed fully.
MENU CHECKMARKS:
Old KM-versions incl. KM74 couldn't update Menu-Checkmarks when opening menus as popups. Desaster for macros.
Fixed since KM75
NEW MACRO FUNCTIONS:
KM75 and 75.1 got a bunch of long missed new functions, perhaps 76 yet more.
Every new KM7x version fixed more bugs.
MACROS in general:
KM/KG74 got a rather buggy macrolanguage due to the major jump in gecko engine from FF3.5 to FF24
Those probs got partly fixed with every new version. Yet at the same time newer KM7x versions started getting MORE macro bugs due to Mozilla blocking more and more userfriendly functions, in order to improve users' "security". Desaster for macros.
Firefox xpi-ADDONS:
KM74 allowed for the first time installation of pure xpi-addons, like in Firefox.
But very tricky yet, and of course with the usual exclusion of addon-created menus and buttons.
During KM75-76 the installation was much improved. Just still not having a link to about:addons in the menus, incredible.
TOOLBAR BUTTONS:
KM75/75.1? introduced a new system to create buttons, cfg-files using some complicated json stuff :cool: (Luckily the old methods still work too)
But it got easier for macros to create toolbar buttons, and finally they can set menu-icons too (before only by users in cfg-files, widely unknown howto, and complicated)
Prob: but those menu-icons are rather buggy yet, and still only partly fixed. Automatic resizing creates fuzzy icons.
More...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/20/2019 08:54PM by siria.
Nope, I do *not* mean the english-only KERNEL stuff in that topic..
What I mean are John's dll-wrappers, which he only mentioned in that topic, without instructions.
His own Win2000 was spanish too, and dll-wrappers and KM75 run fine on it since years.
Detailed guide for one of the two wrappers, but with links for both (at msfn.org forum too):
https://www.techspot.com/community/topics/windows-2000-oldcigarettes-windows-2000-xp-api-wrapper-pack.167843/
Originally from this other site, where you could find some post from myself (it used to be a normal forum but now is kind of tapatalk forum crap, still looks all information was kept):
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/win2kgaming/
And I mentioned Service Pack 4 because some wrapping won't work, or might not work, if you need to update to the latest Windows 2000 kernel patches, as the wrappers cover some functions not available on it, but won't cover those that are from official Microsoft patches and for that you need SP4.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/22/2019 08:18PM by JohnHell.
All about K-Meleon extensions.
How to install the spell checker dictionary on km74?
Posted by:
Cixert
Date: July 15, 2019 05:49PM
I downloaded an old version of Firefox spell checker in Spanish.
https://addons.mozilla.org/es/firefox/addon/diccionario-de-espa%C3%B1ol-espa%C3%B1a/versions/
(I do not know if web extensions also work)
I extract the content.
I copy to the K-Meleon dictionaries folder
es-ES.dic
es-ES.aff
Now in the texts appear some words underlined in red.
I click right but I do not see any menu to correct the word.
Where can I change the language of the proofreader from English to Spanish?
At the moment I have deleted the files in English.
Is it necessary to download an extension in Firefox 74?
Thank you.
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 07/17/2019 12:54PM by Cixert.
Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)?
Posted by:
JohnHell
Date: July 15, 2019 05:54PM
Quote
Cixert
I downloaded an old version of Firefox spell checker in Spanish.
https://addons.mozilla.org/es/firefox/addon/diccionario-de-espa%C3%B1ol-espa%C3%B1a/versions/
(I do not know if they also serve web-extensions)
I extract the content.
I copy to the dictionaries folder
es-ES.dic
es-ES.aff
Now in the texts appear some words underlined in red.
I click right but I do not see any menu to correct the word.
Where can I change the language of the proofreader from English to Spanish?
At the moment I have deleted the files in English.
Is it necessary to download an extension in Firefox 74?
Thank you.
Sólo necesitas el plugin Spellcheck.
Mira que tengas la dll spellcheck.dll en la carpeta kplugins y que lo tengas activado desde las preferencias. DeberÃas ver al hacer clic sobre la palabra una opción en el menú contextual que pone spellcheck. Todo se controla desde esa opción del menú.
--
You only need the plugin SpellCheck.
Check you have the dll at kplugins folder and you have enabled through preferences. Once done, when clicking on a word you will see an option as "SpeellCheck". From there you can control all.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/15/2019 05:56PM by JohnHell.
Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)?
Posted by:
Cixert
Date: July 15, 2019 06:10PM
Quote
JohnHell
Quote
Cixert
I downloaded an old version of Firefox spell checker in Spanish.
https://addons.mozilla.org/es/firefox/addon/diccionario-de-espa%C3%B1ol-espa%C3%B1a/versions/
(I do not know if they also serve web-extensions)
I extract the content.
I copy to the dictionaries folder
es-ES.dic
es-ES.aff
Now in the texts appear some words underlined in red.
I click right but I do not see any menu to correct the word.
Where can I change the language of the proofreader from English to Spanish?
At the moment I have deleted the files in English.
Is it necessary to download an extension in Firefox 74?
Thank you.
Sólo necesitas el plugin Spellcheck.
Mira que tengas la dll spellcheck.dll en la carpeta kplugins y que lo tengas activado desde las preferencias. DeberÃas ver al hacer clic sobre la palabra una opción en el menú contextual que pone spellcheck. Todo se controla desde esa opción del menú.
--
You only need the plugin SpellCheck.
Check you have the dll at kplugins folder and you have enabled through preferences. Once done, when clicking on a word you will see an option as "SpeellCheck". From there you can control all.
I do not have spellcheck.dll at kplugins folder.
I do not see the Spell Check for K-Meleon 74 plugin in the repository
http://kmext.sourceforge.net/ext7.htm
Gracias por responder también en español. No es necesario.
Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)?
Posted by:
JohnHell
Date: July 15, 2019 06:28PM
Quote
Cixert
I do not have spellcheck.dll at kplugins folder.
I do not see the Spell Check for K-Meleon 74 plugin in the repository
http://kmext.sourceforge.net/ext7.htm
Download from this thread:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?9,132412,132419
Or download the latest Gecko or Goanna versions as they have it included.
Looks like 74, which is what you are using, didn't have it included in the package.
Quote
Cixert
Gracias por responder también en español. No es necesario.
Por si acaso
Y también será útil para otros Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)?
Posted by:
Cixert
Date: July 15, 2019 07:08PM
Quote
JohnHell
Download from this thread:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?9,132412,132419
Or download the latest Gecko or Goanna versions as they have it included.
Looks like 74, which is what you are using, didn't have it included in the package.
Por si acaso
I pasted spellcheck.dll in kplugins
No more is needed?
I still do not see any menu related to Spell Check.
Nor in Edit-Preferences
Nor in right click
I use
KM74-g22-20180718.win2000 (test build)
can this be the cause?
Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)?
Posted by:
JohnHell
Date: July 15, 2019 08:14PM
Quote
Cixert
Quote
JohnHell
Download from this thread:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?9,132412,132419
Or download the latest Gecko or Goanna versions as they have it included.
Looks like 74, which is what you are using, didn't have it included in the package.
Por si acaso
I pasted spellcheck.dll in kplugins
No more is needed?
I still do not see any menu related to Spell Check.
Nor in Edit-Preferences
Nor in right click
I use
KM74-g22-20180718.win2000 (test build)
can this be the cause?
Nope. Note that I'm in XP now, but once you place the file in kplugins and upon reopen of K-meleon, it asks if you want to enable it and it works.
Doesn't it ask when you reopen K-meleon?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/15/2019 08:15PM by JohnHell.
Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)?
Posted by:
Cixert
Date: July 15, 2019 08:29PM
K-Meleon does not ask anything when restarting.Quote
JohnHell
Quote
Cixert
Quote
JohnHell
Download from this thread:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?9,132412,132419
Or download the latest Gecko or Goanna versions as they have it included.
Looks like 74, which is what you are using, didn't have it included in the package.
Por si acaso
I pasted spellcheck.dll in kplugins
No more is needed?
I still do not see any menu related to Spell Check.
Nor in Edit-Preferences
Nor in right click
I use
KM74-g22-20180718.win2000 (test build)
can this be the cause?
Nope. Note that I'm in XP now, but once you place the file in kplugins and upon reopen of K-meleon, it asks if you want to enable it and it works.
Doesn't it ask when you reopen K-meleon?
I see that in about: config is activated
layout.spellcheckDefault
= 1
How would you change the the spell check language?
I now only have the dictionaries in Spanish.
I see all the English words underlined in red.
But I click right and a special menu does not appear.
Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)?
Posted by:
JohnHell
Date: July 15, 2019 08:37PM
Quote
Cixert
K-Meleon does not ask anything when restarting.
I see that in about: config is activated
layout.spellcheckDefault
= 1
How would you change the the spell check language?
I now only have the dictionaries in Spanish.
I see all the English words underlined in red.
But I click right and a special menu does not appear.
If you are able to see the menu entry SpellCheck after clicking in a textarea like the forum edit box, you should be able to click it and then it should be displayed a new context menu where you can choose to correct a word (if you clicked over an underlined word), a dictionary or disable SpellCheck.
I upload this version from 75.x just in case that version has troubles with Goanna version. Note that this file is in the official 75.x packages.
Note 2: I have 3 dictionaries and I can switch without problems between them. Spanish one among them of course.
Note 3: in case you can switch with the context menu, edit this preference with the appropriate file name (without extension) value:
spellchecker.dictionary
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07/15/2019 08:42PM by JohnHell.
Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)? in KG74
Posted by:
siria
Date: July 15, 2019 09:01PM
Am not a spellcheck user myself, just did a few tests:
When trying the KM75-plugin in KG74 on old OS, it asks at startup to install it, but after a restart the browser only crashes.
When trying the KG76-plugin in KG74, it gets completely ignored. No offer to install, no entry in F2 > KM Plugins.
Same for Marks old spelltest.dll build for KM1.6
Suspecting the plugin must fit to a specific engine version??
Am currently trying to sort through my old notes, to remember...
Back in 2011 had posted a helper macro which creates a menu, but it can only toggle the prefs.
It can NOT show any word suggestions. Being a macro, toggling those prefs still works of course:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?9,113831
PS: wondering why you're using an old version... Win2000? KernelEx? Just for fun? Do you see the Privacy Toolbar?
PS2: please update your topic title to include KG74. Otherwise casual readers will think they'd have to jump through hoops too for spellchecking. But since KM75 it's fully working out-of-box already.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/15/2019 10:56PM by siria.
Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)? in KG74
Posted by:
Cixert
Date: July 16, 2019 07:45PM
My favorite operating system is Windows 2000. The K-Meleon version that I am using has many bugs but once learned the browser works correctly.
One of the advantages using Windows 2000 is that it is a fast operating system.
Now I also know that K-Meleon is the fastest browser that exists.
Mixing Windows 2000 and K-Meleon is a delight to surf the Internet fast.
At the moment I am trying to test Spell Checker in Windows XP. Now everything is much slower but K-Meleon is still the fastest browser compared to all the others.
Well, I also can not use Spell Checker in K-Meleon 76.1 - Goanna 3.4.2 KM-Goanna-20181215 (XP fork)
spellcheck.dll comes in the kplugins folder
in about: config
layout.spellcheckDefault
It is marked at 0 = disabled
I enable putting it at 1 = activated
Now I see the words underlined in red.
I double left click on a word and then right click. No dictionary menu appears.
Edit:
The tests I was doing in the HTC Mania forum.
Now that I am writing these words on the K-Meleon forum I do see Spell Check menu.
So the question is:
Why in a forum does the menu appear and in another forum the menu does not appear?
In both the words appear underlying in red color.
I will try again later on Windows 2000 version
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/16/2019 07:46PM by Cixert.
Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)? in KG74
Posted by:
siria
Date: July 16, 2019 07:55PM
Great info, thanks for feedback!
Would be interesting in learning more about your fixes for KG74, in its own thread.
BTW on Win2000 you can also use KM75.1 (or 75.0? not sure) when using dll-wrappers, I heard...
And wondering why you use outdated 76.1 on XP and not 76.2?
Just recently a new poster did the same, this must have a reason.
Regarding the spellcheck menu, does its appearance depend if a text is selected or not?
Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)? in KG74
Posted by:
JohnHell
Date: July 16, 2019 08:00PM
Quote
Cixert
Edit:
The tests I was doing in the HTC Mania forum.
Now that I am writing these words on the K-Meleon forum I do see Spell Check menu.
So the question is:
Why in a forum does the menu appear and in another forum the menu does not appear?
Ah!, that is tricky. It depends on the element the editable box is in. I may be wrong, as I've never been at HTC mania site, but there are others (can recall right now on one) that happens the same and might be because it is an editable box but not a textarea form element.
Just to be clear, is a normal behaviour.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/16/2019 08:00PM by JohnHell.
Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)? in KG74
Posted by:
Cixert
Date: July 17, 2019 01:13PM
dll-wrappers replaces windows 2000 kernel with XP.Quote
siria
Great info, thanks for feedback!
Would be interesting in learning more about your fixes for KG74, in its own thread.
BTW on Win2000 you can also use KM75.1 (or 75.0? not sure) when using dll-wrappers, I heard...
And wondering why you use outdated 76.1 on XP and not 76.2?
Just recently a new poster did the same, this must have a reason.
Regarding the spellcheck menu, does its appearance depend if a text is selected or not?
Implementing it is complicated and there is not for Spanish.
I do not even use updated Windows 2000.
Service pack 4 makes it so slow as XP.
I use Service Pack 3 with some critical security update (anti Blaster, Conficker, Sasser, RPCSS ...) So I have a pure Windows 2000.
On XP I have no reason to have K-Meleon 76.1 It's just the one I have.
Is it possible to upgrade to 76.2 over 76.1 without destroying the current configuration?
(XP fork does not have installer)
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I'm now trying to implement Spell Checker on K-Meleon 74 and it's still not working.
No menu or Spell Checker message appears.
In K-Meleon 76.1 works with just right click on the word underlined in red.
It does not work if I select the word with double left click. Sorry for the confusion.
Any other ideas to make it work in K-Meleon 74?
Spell Check does not appear in the menu Preferences + K-Meleon Plugins + Macro Extension
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/17/2019 03:51PM by Cixert.
Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)? in KG74
Posted by:
siria
Date: July 17, 2019 06:29PM
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Cixert
In K-Meleon 76.1 works with just right click on the word underlined in red.
It does not work if I select the word with double left click. Sorry for the confusion.
Thanks for confirmation. Good to know that still the menu only pops up if no text is selected.
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Cixert
I'm now trying to implement Spell Checker on K-Meleon 74 and it's still not working.
No menu or Spell Checker message appears.
Any other ideas to make it work in K-Meleon 74?
Unfortunately it looks like old K-Meleon 74 is the only KM-version without any chance to get word-suggestions?
Although the red wavy lines show up out-of-box since K-Meleon1.6, but the word-suggestions just need a special KM plugin. There are usermade plugins for KM1.5 and KM1.6, and native plugins are included since KM75, but KM74 is just out of luck so far.
In the past someone mentioned he installed WordWeb as a workaround, or perhaps other general tools may work too. Have no clue of those.
Aside from such external plugins, there's only my old pref-toggling macro, to get at least a menu for general spell-settings, choosing the language, adding own words etc. (2011)
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?9,113831
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Cixert
On XP I have no reason to have K-Meleon 76.1 It's just the one I have.
Is it possible to upgrade to 76.2 over 76.1 without destroying the current configuration?
That's a subject that comes up every so often, because it's a bit tricky.
Last topic was here:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?19,146213
Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)? in KG74
Posted by:
Cixert
Date: July 17, 2019 08:33PM
Now the menu comes out but it does not work, the word suggestion does not appear.Quote
siria
Aside from such external plugins, there's only my old pref-toggling macro, to get at least a menu for general spell-settings, choosing the language, adding own words etc. (2011)
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?9,113831
I downloaded SpellPrefs.kmm for 1.6 from here because the other link does not seem to work temporarily.
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?9,113831
Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)? in KG74
Posted by:
siria
Date: July 17, 2019 09:41PM
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Cixert
Now the menu comes out but it does not work, the word suggestion does not appear.
The macro (*.kmm) does only what I explained it does:
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Back in 2011 had posted a helper macro which creates a menu, but it can only toggle the prefs.
It can NOT show any word suggestions. Being a macro, toggling those prefs still works of course:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?9,113831
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the word-suggestions just need a special KM plugin (=*.dll). There are usermade plugins for KM1.5 and KM1.6, and native plugins are included since KM75, but KM74 is just out of luck so far.
Aside from such external plugins, there's only my old pref-toggling macro, to get at least a menu for general spell-settings, choosing the language, adding own words etc. (2011)
Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)? in KG74
Posted by:
siria
Date: July 20, 2019 04:12PM
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Cixert
dll-wrappers replaces windows 2000 kernel with XP.
Implementing it is complicated and there is not for Spanish.
I do not even use updated Windows 2000.
Service pack 4 makes it so slow as XP.
I use Service Pack 3 with some critical security update (anti Blaster, Conficker, Sasser, RPCSS ...) So I have a pure Windows 2000.
"there is not for Spanish" - that reminds me what Win2000 expert JohnHell mentioned awhile ago that he refused to use such "Kernel" updates too, and also that this kind of kernel-update-trick would only run on a pure english system anyway.
Yet for a long time before he was already able to run KM75 and KM75.1 just with the help of some "dll wrapper" tools, which seem to be less heavy and intrusive.
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?19,144876
Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)? in KG74
Posted by:
JohnHell
Date: July 20, 2019 06:20PM
I don't think I'm an expert.
He is talking more about that with Service Pack 4 it slows down what I can't agree at all.
And dll wrappers actually don't change 2000 kernel by XP one. Kernel wrappers works as follows:
program.exe > load dll wrapper for extended functions (XP) > load the rest of the functions as usual from system kernel files
KernelEx, in the other hand, that is the link that you siria post, is way beyond. It actually updates the kernel files with modified kernel. An updated kernel with missing functions, to be exact, with installers modded to mimic Microsoft ones, with uninstall options included (if blackwingcat (the developer of KernelEx) didn't change it).
Anyway, I can't blame him. But as you know siria, sadly, K-meleon 74 with Goanna engine wasn't much of an improvement to K-meleon 75/75.1, but for this topic, at least the official Gecko engine releases, they add spellcheck compatibility, but if he doesn't want to update Windows 2000+dll wrappers... Is up to him. Hey, you are still on Windows 98
We are all crazy Re: How to install the spell checker dictionary on km74?
Posted by:
siria
Date: July 20, 2019 08:49PM
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JohnHell
if he doesn't want to update Windows 2000+dll wrappers... Is up to him.
Sure, but he merely said he doesn't want SP4, and not the Kernel-Update.
No word of those lighter wrappers - it's possible he's not aware of this alternative yet.
Just trying to spread a bit info
(hey I wasn't aware for *years* about KernelEx for 98se, about FF9 and Opera12 with TLS1.2!)
Re: How to install the spell checker... / Differences KM74 - KM76
Posted by:
siria
Date: July 20, 2019 08:52PM
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JohnHell
K-meleon 74 with Goanna engine wasn't much of an improvement to K-meleon 75/75.1, but for this topic, at least the official Gecko engine releases, they add spellcheck compatibility
Differences between KG74 and KM75.x, hmm...
While I have that stuff still fresh in memory, let me post a few points, not complete of course:
SPELLCHECKER:
KM1.6 until KM74: spellchecker is included, but it can only underline wrong words.
KM75: possible to get word suggestions by menu (needs a kplugin. For KM1.5+1.6 a user created kplugin is available, only for KM74 - nothing)
USERAGENTS for single SITES:
KM-Goanna 74+76 WORK! They have already initialized that important function
KM74-76 Gecko need a user-hack in omni.ja to get it working
MACRO MENUS: Very buggy when modifying menus in session
KG74: Just recently figured out that viewing an in-session-updated menu CRASHES KG74 on 98se.
Not sure if KM74 or younger OS crash too, probably not, but they sure have the same bugs. Desaster for macros.
KM75 was a bit fixed, 75.1 and KM76 yet better, but not sure if session-menu-updates were ever fixed fully.
MENU CHECKMARKS:
Old KM-versions incl. KM74 couldn't update Menu-Checkmarks when opening menus as popups. Desaster for macros.
Fixed since KM75
NEW MACRO FUNCTIONS:
KM75 and 75.1 got a bunch of long missed new functions, perhaps 76 yet more.
Every new KM7x version fixed more bugs.
MACROS in general:
KM/KG74 got a rather buggy macrolanguage due to the major jump in gecko engine from FF3.5 to FF24
Those probs got partly fixed with every new version. Yet at the same time newer KM7x versions started getting MORE macro bugs due to Mozilla blocking more and more userfriendly functions, in order to improve users' "security". Desaster for macros.
Firefox xpi-ADDONS:
KM74 allowed for the first time installation of pure xpi-addons, like in Firefox.
But very tricky yet, and of course with the usual exclusion of addon-created menus and buttons.
During KM75-76 the installation was much improved. Just still not having a link to about:addons in the menus, incredible.
TOOLBAR BUTTONS:
KM75/75.1? introduced a new system to create buttons, cfg-files using some complicated json stuff :cool: (Luckily the old methods still work too)
But it got easier for macros to create toolbar buttons, and finally they can set menu-icons too (before only by users in cfg-files, widely unknown howto, and complicated)
Prob: but those menu-icons are rather buggy yet, and still only partly fixed. Automatic resizing creates fuzzy icons.
More...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/20/2019 08:54PM by siria.
Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)? in KG74
Posted by:
Cixert
Date: July 22, 2019 04:14PM
Thank you. I tried it but it's only for English.Quote
siria
"there is not for Spanish" - that reminds me what Win2000 expert JohnHell mentioned awhile ago that he refused to use such "Kernel" updates too, and also that this kind of kernel-update-trick would only run on a pure english system anyway.
Yet for a long time before he was already able to run KM75 and KM75.1 just with the help of some "dll wrapper" tools, which seem to be less heavy and intrusive.
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?19,144876
Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)? in KG74
Posted by:
siria
Date: July 22, 2019 07:24PM
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Cixert
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siria
"there is not for Spanish" - that reminds me what Win2000 expert JohnHell mentioned awhile ago that he refused to use such "Kernel" updates too, and also that this kind of kernel-update-trick would only run on a pure english system anyway.
Yet for a long time before he was already able to run KM75 and KM75.1 just with the help of some "dll wrapper" tools, which seem to be less heavy and intrusive.
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?19,144876
Thank you. I tried it but it's only for English.
Nope, I do *not* mean the english-only KERNEL stuff in that topic..
What I mean are John's dll-wrappers, which he only mentioned in that topic, without instructions.
His own Win2000 was spanish too, and dll-wrappers and KM75 run fine on it since years.
Re: How to install the spell checker (aka dictionary)? in KG74
Posted by:
JohnHell
Date: July 22, 2019 08:16PM
Detailed guide for one of the two wrappers, but with links for both (at msfn.org forum too):
https://www.techspot.com/community/topics/windows-2000-oldcigarettes-windows-2000-xp-api-wrapper-pack.167843/
Originally from this other site, where you could find some post from myself (it used to be a normal forum but now is kind of tapatalk forum crap, still looks all information was kept):
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/win2kgaming/
And I mentioned Service Pack 4 because some wrapping won't work, or might not work, if you need to update to the latest Windows 2000 kernel patches, as the wrappers cover some functions not available on it, but won't cover those that are from official Microsoft patches and for that you need SP4.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/22/2019 08:18PM by JohnHell.
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