@roytam1 thanks for new version!
@siria your updating proposal seems good. :O

Easy question: will KMGoanna become final/stable anytime?

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J.G.
Easy question: will KMGoanna become final/stable anytime?

Actually it is.

But from the point of view of the engine, you should consider it as a rolling release. Similar of how other browsers release updated versions continuously, but in K-meleon Goanna, without dedicated update servers.

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Another Brick on The Wall
I hope this helps to narrow it down: build 20190824 rendered TiddlyWiki.com correctly.

20190831 build renders this site correctly here.

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J.G.
Easy question: will KMGoanna become final/stable anytime?

Actually it is.

But from the point of view of the engine, you should consider it as a rolling release. Similar of how other browsers release updated versions continuously, but in K-meleon Goanna, without dedicated update servers.

for K-Meleon front-end itself(so XUL engine is not counted) it is stable, only minor changes occurs when XUL engine is updated coming with API-breaking changes.

That is what I intended to say

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J.G.
Easy question: will KMGoanna become final/stable anytime?

Actually it is.
But from the point of view of the engine, you should consider it as a rolling release. Similar of how other browsers release updated versions continuously, but in K-meleon Goanna, without dedicated update servers.

for K-Meleon front-end itself(so XUL engine is not counted) it is stable, only minor changes occurs when XUL engine is updated coming with API-breaking changes.

Fine, so let's tell this to visitors on the Home/News page too:
The latest stable release is the weekly KMG76.2 release :cool:
(instead of lying to them, claiming today it were still 75.1)

Or only changing
Latest stable release: 75.1
to perhaps
Deprecated previous stable release: 75.1 (from 2015)
??

Or as cautiously as possible dance around the dilemma only in the
LATEST NEWS:
2019-01-10 (+weeklies): K-Meleon 76.2 with Goanna engine, see forum (link), with further updates.
Unofficial builds by roytam1, more stable as deprecated release 75.1 from 2015



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/03/2019 08:32PM by siria.

@JohnHell, @roytam1 and @siria thank you for your answers.

I think @siria is right, KMeleon Goanna should be announced in a more proper way. Furthermore, stable versions of KMGoanna could be announced every one/two/three months in the download page if you wish. Anyway we get updated versions each week, so why not? There's no reason to send new users to the download page just to see an old stable deprecated version from 2015. That's sad in my humble opinion. And please, remember you all that in 2020 the FlashPlayer plugin (and probably other more plugins) will be deprecated and no longer supported. By this fact, KMeleon will be one of the few browsers that will still support any kind of existing FF plugin. :O

All my friends are actively using KMeleon just to play Flash and Shockwave games (enjoying other advantages: low RAM consumption, portable, old computer friendly). Some of them love to carry it inside an USB device because KMeleon just work fine in every machine they found. So please, do start thinking that next year will be very important for KMeleon life in some ways: 2020 could be the biggest opportunity for KMeleon because some people will need a plugin friendly browser. KMeleon needs this opportunity, and a new stable version is just the best gift for users.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 09/04/2019 01:56PM by J.G..

@roytam1 updated es-ES locale is available, thanks
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?20,144672
(at first post)

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J.G.
@roytam1 updated es-ES locale is available, thanks
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?20,144672
(at first post)

oh great, thanks.

BTW there is some new strings added (from older to newer order):
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/18084d9ccecc5be3ce4116d297700095b13028cf#diff-58ebd4ce0478b88cc49e6e016fa17b8d
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/18084d9ccecc5be3ce4116d297700095b13028cf#diff-b8d5790855a88ab3feab21173c4cadbf
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/18084d9ccecc5be3ce4116d297700095b13028cf#diff-5531f65014512bc9cbfcd236acb30f2b
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/18084d9ccecc5be3ce4116d297700095b13028cf#diff-0b08792398c408a93dd2a72b4b61cab5
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/18084d9ccecc5be3ce4116d297700095b13028cf#diff-3f6259650a01247c84ac14224308b455
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/c106e1d83f1f514db365e7325defa158ba869402#diff-725d3b6d6ad137c7d05e9f895389a6ca
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/c106e1d83f1f514db365e7325defa158ba869402#diff-0b08792398c408a93dd2a72b4b61cab5
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/18efcca64b37abc69eaed7aa38013eb420da8b62#diff-e82474d8b13c1417e687bcefbfa0d74e
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/18efcca64b37abc69eaed7aa38013eb420da8b62#diff-38fb3065c40acfe9cd97e7cd67908052
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/f672f60d2d8faf344f4f3ac1c7188e10837546d8#diff-dccb3ee8c9c7ff76a169dc2634579e6c



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/05/2019 02:14PM by roytam1.

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@roytam1 updated es-ES locale is available, thanks
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?20,144672
(at first post)

oh great, thanks.

BTW there is some new strings added (from older to newer order):
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/18084d9ccecc5be3ce4116d297700095b13028cf#diff-58ebd4ce0478b88cc49e6e016fa17b8d
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/18084d9ccecc5be3ce4116d297700095b13028cf#diff-b8d5790855a88ab3feab21173c4cadbf
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/18084d9ccecc5be3ce4116d297700095b13028cf#diff-5531f65014512bc9cbfcd236acb30f2b
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/18084d9ccecc5be3ce4116d297700095b13028cf#diff-0b08792398c408a93dd2a72b4b61cab5
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/18084d9ccecc5be3ce4116d297700095b13028cf#diff-3f6259650a01247c84ac14224308b455
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/c106e1d83f1f514db365e7325defa158ba869402#diff-725d3b6d6ad137c7d05e9f895389a6ca
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/c106e1d83f1f514db365e7325defa158ba869402#diff-0b08792398c408a93dd2a72b4b61cab5
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/18efcca64b37abc69eaed7aa38013eb420da8b62#diff-e82474d8b13c1417e687bcefbfa0d74e
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/18efcca64b37abc69eaed7aa38013eb420da8b62#diff-38fb3065c40acfe9cd97e7cd67908052
github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/f672f60d2d8faf344f4f3ac1c7188e10837546d8#diff-dccb3ee8c9c7ff76a169dc2634579e6c

@roytam1 thanks a lot for your detailed info about recent new strings and changes.
es-ES locale has been updated and tested fine. Current 7z file is available at:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?20,144672
(first post, attached file (...)-20190905
Again, thanks for your valuable work.

Hi roytam1
Could you add or enable WebGL in the next update plz?

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Hi roytam1
Could you add or enable WebGL in the next update plz?

no problem here. you may try with a new profile or your display card/driver is incompatible.

New regular/weekly KM-Goanna release:
https://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/KM76.2-Goanna-20190907.7z

Changelog:

Out-of-tree changes:
* update Goanna3 to git 18efcca64..c6d625af7:
- update Twemoji font to KwanEsq/twemoji-colr v12 branch with twemoji-12.1.2. (8a07ee587)
- add twitter SSUAO. (8440aaa98)
- try to fix issue mentioned in https://msfn.org/board/?app=core&module=system&controller=content&do=find&content_class=forums_Topic&content_id=177125&content_commentid=1169926 (eb1f745f3)
- import change from rmottola/Arctic-Fox:
- Bug 1135100 - Don't update GC thing pointers that haven't changed after marking r=terrence (0df3ea820)
- Bug 1135857 - Remove ContentClientIncremental. r=mattwoodrow (059587352)
- Bug 1135809 - add apz. prefs to about:support. r=kats (6439aaf6b)
- Bug 1135361 - Fix position of ruby annotation in vertical-rl mode when justification is applied to the base. r=jfkthame (a00bb53be)
- Bug 1133288 - Remove nonstandard expression closures from editor. r=ehsan (605992184)
- Bug 1135361 - Reftest for ruby positioning in justified vertical text. r=xidorn (60fe87ae3)
- Bug 1135984 - Fix typo which made Context.__init__ set the unused exe (312c35ef2)
- Bug 1077864, Part 1: Check consistency of certificates' signature and signatureAlgorithm fields, r=keeler (9a11f90c3)
- Bug 1077864, Part 2: Override the trust level for OCSP response signer certs so that they are never considered trust anchors, r=keeler (c46772e6d)
- Bug 1077864, Part 3: update nsserrors.properties so error message gets localized. (935233549)
- Bug 1135407: Factor out duplicate logic in tests, r=keeler (383ff80c5)
- Bug 1131767: Prune away paths using unacceptable algorithms earlier, r=keeler (55182b7e2)
- Followup to Bug 1135563 - uiUnsupportedAlreadyNotified.js doesn't use httpd.js. r=me (cef9dbdcd)
- Bug 1135563 - Fix several javascript warnings for xpcshell app update tests and cleanup style. r=spohl (6330eb78c)
- Bug 1123019 - In DrawTargetTiled:trokeRect and StrokeLine, skip tiles that don't intersect the stroke. r=jrmuizel (71afc7653)
- Bug 1123019 - Shrink clipped stroked rectangles and stroked lines. r=jrmuizel (17e93d70f)
- Bug 1123019 - Actually use the clipped rect variable. r=jrmuizel (29c96ab43) (f672f60d2)
- partly import change from tenfourfox:
- #568: update certs, pins, TLDs, miners (fe73f72f7)
and added -bigobj compile switch to ssl/moz.build. (2570c3be2)
- import changes from rmottola/Arctic-Fox:
- Bug 1135591 - Fix build breakage from bug 1132153 in code conditional on '--enable-ipdl-tests'. r=dholbert (711edeb82)
- bug 1121845 - Don't include generated IPDL header from nsPluginHost.h. r=bsmedberg (1929312e8)
- Bug 755070 - Move WrappedJavaObject comment to the class it refers to. rs=snorp DONTBUILD NPOTB (9562583ec)
- Bug 1135151. Add a WrapNativeParent specialization for the nsIGlobalObject case, and make Event return nsIGlobalObject as its parent object. r=smaug (2c002cd7d) (c6d625af7)

* Notice: the changelog above may not always applicable to XULRunner code which K-Meleon uses.

A goanna3 source tree that has kmeleon adaption patch applied is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/tree/kmeleon76

@roytam1 thanks!

@roytam1 thanks!

Great job! Thanks!

kmeleon crashes when opening more than 3 threads of bbs.hupu.com @roytam1



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/16/2019 02:19AM by cheetos1897.

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kmeleon crashes when opening more than 3 threads of bbs.hupu.com @roytam1

Weird browser behaviour and then crash confirmed.
es-ES updated package still not merged by the way.
@roytam1 thanks!

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kmeleon crashes when opening more than 3 threads of bbs.hupu.com @roytam1

this will be solved in next build.

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kmeleon crashes when opening more than 3 threads of bbs.hupu.com @roytam1

this will be solved in next build.

https://snag.gy dont work

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kmeleon crashes when opening more than 3 threads of bbs.hupu.com @roytam1

this will be solved in next build.

https://snag.gy dont work

I have no problem here.

New regular/weekly KM-Goanna release:
https://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/KM76.2-Goanna-20190921.7z

Changelog:

Out-of-tree changes:
* update Goanna3 to git c6d625af7..ee8a0010a:
- import mozilla bug1158427 to fix a crash when openning multiple pages that containing video. (33770cbf7)
- import changes from rmottola/Arctic-Fox:
- Bug 1135427. Add missing early return, because throwing an exception without returning is weird. r=khuey (a24e8ead8)
- Bug 1134598 - Enable the vertical writing-mode reftest directory. r=smontagu (739dd949e)
- Bug 1054892 - Fix ccache status not shown after shrinking cache size. r=gps (bc5de7ca0)
- Bug 1109007 - Adding htmlimports.enabled pref flag. r=wchen (737b2435a)
- Bug 1133818 - Fixed GCC warnings in widget/windows. r=jmathies (2e3c460cb)
- Bug 1135308 - add pref for disabling font cache. r=m_kato (ac6ab5e05)
- missing parts of Bug 897060 - Display select dropdowns in the parent process. (549dd9952)
- missing import of Bug 938359 - [e10s] Support middle-click scroll (9c27e5242)
- Bug 898170 - Skip login manager event handlers in e10s mode (r=felipe) (5e0d47a6a)
- Bug 516753 - Forward content context menu events to the parent. r=felipc (201431b20)
- Bug 960783 - Support "new out-of-process window" menu item in nightly [adapted] (ffdfb5df6)
- Bug 1046761 - e10s context menu should handle preventDefault (r=felipe) (e04256d27) (d918e4f0a)
- revert e10s related changes from last rev. (f25cb74ba)
- guard with try..catch in snippetsURL getter function (1b5426fba)
- import changes from rmottola/Arctic-Fox:
- Bug 1130616 - Support EXT_color_buffer_half_float on ANGLE. - r=jrmuizel,khuey (e870d4982)
- remove old and XSS observer code (662958feb) (ee8a0010a)

* Notice: the changelog above may not always applicable to XULRunner code which K-Meleon uses.

A goanna3 source tree that has kmeleon adaption patch applied is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/tree/kmeleon76



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/21/2019 05:19AM by roytam1.

Thank you roytam1 for the great weekly work you do in improving your browser.

@roytam1 thanks for latest version!

Related question for an utopian future: I have been thinking for a while about latest updating method proposed by @siria, very good in my opinion. In the same way, I have been asking myself if an existing stable KMeleon Goanna version could be easily updated by a *.zip file containing empty folders but newer files to be replaced. My english level and my difficulties to write narrow text probably won't help me to express what I meant. Anyway I hope somebody will understand the concept, considering @siria good update proposal.

@J.G
I think you meant somthing like this... http://kmeleonbrowser.org/wiki/GREUpdate

New regular/weekly KM-Goanna release:
https://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/KM76.2-Goanna-20190928.7z

Changelog:

Out-of-tree changes:
* update Goanna3 to git ee8a0010a..3f92ddedb:
repo changes since my last build:
- import changes from rmottola/Arctic-Fox:
- Bug 1153649 part 1 - Improve usability of OwningNonNull; r=bz (287b867a8)
- Bug 1153649 part 2 - Use some OwningNonNull in editor; r=ehsan (fd3052865)
- Bug 1153649 part 3 - More OwningNonNull improvements; r=bz (95614eea9) (3f92ddedb)

* Notice: the changelog above may not always applicable to XULRunner code which K-Meleon uses.

A goanna3 source tree that has kmeleon adaption patch applied is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/tree/kmeleon76

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Impure
@J.G
I think you meant somthing like this... http://kmeleonbrowser.org/wiki/GREUpdate

Yes @impure, you're right, that's very close to what I meant. Some time ago, I did some testing work with directly drag and drop all the folder content of latest version over the installed one, just to see which files are asked to be overwrited (updated). Unfortunately, my eyes are giving me more troubles than expected so I can't continue the work.

By the way, thanks @roytam for latest release.

@roytam1 thanks!

Again... thanks

Much love to K-Meleon family :cool:

K-Meleon on Goanna is result of great job, but I've found little (important, at least for me) issue
In Yandex.Money service you can't pay to 'Another Yandex.Money Waller', but in 'Withdraw money to you bank account' everything works fine.
Any chances of fixing?

Sorry for overdecorated picture
Thanks