I think you are right there, Impure : the question is only : who will port it there !? I hope Roytam is continuing his efforts in that direction ! Any news on this?

Mala Okeh
a k-meleon fan since the very beginning

roytam said that this needs some action from Moonchild and Ko to KM be able to migrate to new engine. And no action for now...

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Impure
Numerous sites have stopped or are unresponsive to Goanna 3 (Tycho) engine recently. Unless KMeleon is ported to Goanna 4, i see a bleak future for the most loved browser.

May you list them? Have you tried alternative user agents on them? :s

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J.G.
May you list them?

Too numerous they are. Really.

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Impure
Numerous sites have stopped or are unresponsive to Goanna 3 (Tycho) engine recently.

So far I've only found three that really matter, and two of them seem to be in scripting or CSS... One works properly only in IE11, so I think a bit of browser-sniffing is behind that, plus the fact that IE has never been fussy about what it eats

Most of what doesn't work properly appears to be scripting or CSS. K-M can get some of it, but must drop the rest.

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Understanding the scope of the problem is the first step on the path to true panic. [Florence Ambrose, "Freefall" 01372 January 22, 2007 http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1400/fv01372.htm]



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Just adding to my last (above), my Pale Moon is version 27.9.4, and easily shows most pages that won't render in K-M.

A couple of times I've tried changing the UA, and often when I'm spoofing IE11 {Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko} the page will flash briefly on-screen, then go to a blank white display.

My KM is build# 20190810 if it helps.

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Understanding the scope of the problem is the first step on the path to true panic. [Florence Ambrose, "Freefall" 01372 January 22, 2007 http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1400/fv01372.htm]

New regular/weekly KM-Goanna release:
https://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/KM76.2-Goanna-20191214.7z

Changelog:

Out-of-tree changes:
* update Goanna3 to git f9e56e1ed..50a11752b:
- applied NSPR Bug 1586070 - Read does not advance file position for files larger than 4GB on Win32. (See also bug 70765.) r=kaie (c05d4592c)
- updated to nss-3.44.3 (70e76b712)
- import UXP change:
- [NSS] Bug 1508776 - Remove unneeded refcounting from SFTKSession (836e72e96) (b27556af1)
- import changes from `devel' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox:
- Bug 1138073 - Improve checking when folding and/or blocks in Ion, r=sunfish. (b73bc1cff)
- Bug 1025125 - If enabled, enter pdb session when test fails. r=ahal (29e086127)
- Bug 1139628 - Don't load delayed process scripts until channel is open (r=smaug) (ae8b152ed)
- Bug 1131444 - Close PContentBridge when content process is ended. r=khuey (0777738f8) (d7ef248c3)
- partly imported from tenfourfox: #578: M1579060 M1586176 (d09fe1e46)
- ported changes from tenfourfox:
- #375: M1351303
- closes #519: Element.toggleAttribute() + backbugs M1258205 M1276938 (e186cc7c9)
- ported tenfourfox change: closes #520: Document.elementsFromPoint() M1164427 (dbe519843)
- import changes from `devel' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox:
- Bug 1135903 - OdinMonkey: Make signal-handler OOB checking an independent configuration r=luke (d9f2104a2)
- Bug 1138495 - pt 0 - Reftests for font inflation in vertical writing mode, initially annotated as failing. r=smontagu (6b1a2f47d)
- Bug 1138495 - pt 1 - Rename NS_FRAME_IN_CONSTRAINED_HEIGHT flag to NS_FRAME_IN_CONSTRAINED_BSIZE, and set it appropriately according to writing mode. r=smontagu (9d1dfbe3a)
- Bug 1138495 - pt 2 - Remove failure annotations from tests that no longer fail; note that the comparison of font-inflation-1c.html vs 1d still fails (they should inflate by different amounts). r=smontagu (1e7a9a2a7)
- Bug 1138495 - pt 3 - Compute font inflation based on inline-axis dimensions rather than always using physical width. r=smontagu (d7fc87566)
- Bug 1138495 - pt 4 - Remove failure annotation from the final testcase, and add specific equality tests for the correctly-inflated rendering of 1c and 1d. r=smontagu (81de3cb59)
- Bug 1132078 - Remove useless null checks after allocating memory with |new| from xpcom/io. r=nfroyd (3c59b0993) (50a11752b)

* Notice: the changelog above may not always applicable to XULRunner code which K-Meleon uses.

A goanna3 source tree that has kmeleon adaption patch applied is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/tree/kmeleon76

Thank you for this update, i hope that you can add WebGL to futures builds.

@roytam1 thanks!

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Shiro Naomi
Thank you for this update, i hope that you can add WebGL to futures builds.

as I stated before, WebGL is available from beginning.

roytam1 thanks for all your efforts nd Merry Christmas................

Does anyone have any tips for installing these without loosing all your customizations each time?

Thanks roytam1.

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Slickone
Does anyone have any tips for installing these without loosing all your customizations each time?

Someone suggested creating a zip/rar based on folder structure
of where tweaked files are. Place zip/rar in goanna main folder and then unzip.

For example, if a macro is tweaked, create a macros folder with that kmm file in it.

Main problem I find is remembering to add subsequent tweaks to
this zip/rar.



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Slickone
Does anyone have any tips for installing these without loosing all your customizations each time?

Customizations should be only made in profiles, if are made by you. And settings are always in profile.

Said that, make a backup of the profile folder before overwrite, even though, if we are talking about install one version over another, profiles aren't touched.

If you still make customizations to K-meleon root folder, the same, make a backup and overwrite with older files, if aren't core files, of course.

I don't know what is driving you to lose your customizations, but shouldn't happen in a "normal" scenario.

@roytam1 thanks again for the nice work and Merry Christmas to you all!

Why it does not download fron the link above? I tried to download from WinXP, android phone.

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Tim
Why it does not download fron the link above? I tried to download from WinXP, android phone.

Which specific link.

All I have tested works here.

Maybe was a temporary downtime. Try again.

Is there going to be a Version 77?
I thought it said 76.2g was forerunner to Kmeleon 77.
is this K-Meleon fork on Goanna engine taken over K-Meleon 77 on Gecko?
will 77, if it happens, run on non-sse2 processors?
will 77, if it happens, be in a self-contained installer package?

I love this browser, built like apps in the days of old,
where (most)everything actually worked, everything was customizable,
optimized with effecient coding... no bloat, no rookie, no slop shots
On Windows XP, you're the last man standing.
Chrome, Firefox, Palemoon, Seamonkey, Explorer, NOT

Thank you for you work first of all. I have AMD Sempron 2200+ (which is 1500 Mhz without SSE2) and 512 RAM.

I downloaded K-Meleon Stable version which is without HTML5 support I think.

Could you please create installer for developer release 76.2G and for H.264 codec plugin for K-Meleon. All o.rthl.ml links does not open in my region. But Stable Release link opens.

That's 2 are must have technologies packs for really old processors.

Sourseforge packages ends with 2016 version.

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timurgepard
All o.rthl.ml links does not open in my region. But Stable Release link opens.

HUH?!?? If true, and not just a short connection hickup, that would be completely shocking....
And if you click here?
http://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/

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Based on Goanna engine, called 'test' builds forever but more stable as 75.1 acc. forum members. It's 1-2 generations ahead of predecessor KM76RC-2016
K-Meleon FAQ (link missing in forum sidebar)
Tips&Tricks - Learning new stuff every day
New to K-Meleon? What do you like? What not?

New regular/weekly KM-Goanna release:
https://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/KM76.2-Goanna-20200104.7z

Changelog:

Out-of-tree changes:
* update Goanna3 to git 2d9c22eec..fa517dfc6:
- patch from Sami<samiwieciekto at g mail> with pref guard: Enable skipping loop filter and allow non spec compliant speedup tricks. to enable, create new boolean pref "media.ffmpeg.skip_loop_filter" and set it to true. (feb7e4c6b)
- patch from Sami<samiwieciekto at g mail>: Lowered mMaxTextureSize from 4096 to 2048 to allow older graphic cards (a81a1c9f9)
- ported from UXP: Request NSS to use DBM as the storage file format (66033593) (c3acb8f3f)
- update NSPR to 4.24 and keep NSPR Bug 1586070 and win64 patch intact. (ecb2798fd)
- Update NSS to 3.48 while keeping vc2013 hackfix intact. (0732ab440)
- [NSS] disable enable_sslkeylogfile rules (1f371916d)
- import NSS tip revs: bug1594965, bug1593167, bug1603027, bug1600144, bug1590001, bug1603257, bug1605545, bug1513586 (59897b83f)
- re-apply rev e186cc7c9c55b241677fa43e76312efb3f7a11ab, and fixup from TFF: temporarily disable M1351303 due to crashes (75d95f15) (fa517dfc6)

* Notice: the changelog above may not always applicable to XULRunner code which K-Meleon uses.

A goanna3 source tree that has kmeleon adaption patch applied is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/tree/kmeleon76



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@roytam1 thanks!

@Roytam1 thank you very much! Happy New Year 2020 to you all!

@roytam1 thank you for your great work and wish you a happy New Year

Thanks a lot @roytam1! A happy New year 2020 to all!

However, o.rths.cf seems to be down, or impossibly slow today. I was not able to download it.

Update: It worked from http://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/



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Borut
Thanks a lot @roytam1! A happy New year 2020 to all!

However, o.rths.cf seems to be down, or impossibly slow today. I was not able to download it.

Update: It worked from http://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/

Could you post some example where that o.rths.cf link exists and the exact text and link that it has so roytam or me could fix it?

I'd really appreciate it.

Remember, when reporting, give examples and/or details.

Thank you.

Thank you roytam1 for continuing this great work

@Borut: httpS is safer, only the domain ending has changed to "ml" some weeks back.
The automatic replacement here seems to work nicely, but it can't change the database, or bookmarks, and old posts in other forums (msfn)

Happy New Kmeleon! Thank you, Roy!



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Doesn't work for me. I did follow the page 1 instructions, but when I try to run it, Windows complains:

The startup point of procedure could not be found from dynamically linked library kernell32.dll.

And when I try Win2000 compatiblity mode or to run loader.exe, happens fatal system error (BSOD) and I have to press Reset. I've XP SP2 istalled after the support had ended.

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nbmbnmbnmbhm
Doesn't work for me. I did follow the page 1 instructions, but when I try to run it, Windows complains:

The startup point of procedure could not be found from dynamically linked library kernell32.dll.

And when I try Win2000 compatiblity mode or to run loader.exe, happens fatal system error (BSOD) and I have to press Reset. I've XP SP2 istalled after the support had ended.

you need XP SP3 to run it.

if you want to stay in SP2, use KM74g.